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Category: Ai Platforms

Credo: Reliability Leader Aggressively Moves into Optics

Posted on June 25, 2026June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Credo is a force to be reckoned with in the networking space. The company brought to market active electric cables (AECs) that integrates a DSP and retimer, which were more reliable and power efficient than the alternative, laser-based optical modules for short-reach connections. 

As Nvidia’s racks scaled-up to 72 GPUs, the impact of Credo’s AECs were instrumental to the systems seeing “up to 1,000x greater reliability than commodity laser-based optical modules” while consuming much less power. In past our past coverage on Credo, we’ve included pictures of their signature purple cables blanketing Nvidia’s in-rack connectivity, which resulted in hypergrowth fundamentals for Credo especially when Blackwell and Blackwell Ultra shipped.  

However, as we approach Rubin and certainly Rubin Ultra, it’s expected the copper-to-optics boundary will move in optics favor. As a growth investor, I have to be cautious anytime a company’s market share recedes to the adjacent market, even if that company’s revenue is growing YoY. In other words, Credo’s AECs alone are unlikely to sustain 200%+ growth, especially given that optics are becoming the preferred approach as reach and speed requirements increase, combined with tough comps from the Blackwell architectures. 

And yet, despite the AEC story offering less gunpowder, the stock has been particularly resilient and is approaching an important technical level. The reason is that, as the reliability-and-power-efficiency supplier, Credo may be innovating within its space again – but this time, with optics.  

The ramp that Credo foresees is fast at $600 million this fiscal year across three product lines. When pressed in the earnings call, management agreed that the ZeroFlap optics platform is expected to be the fastest-growing product within optics as it solves the same problem that Credo’s AECs are known for, which is network reliability. By continuously monitoring link health, the ZeroFlap optics platform autonomously detects and mitigates link instability before it impacts the cluster. 

The ZeroFlap optics platform also comes with an upsell opportunity for the company’s PIC technology, which can reduce the number of lasers that a link requires, and 100G and 200G DSPs. Combined, the platform combines hardware and software to keep the network stable. 

Awaiting the Optics Inflection in 2H FY27 

Credo’s growth is decelerating as optics replace AECs with growth peaking at 201% YoY last quarter, and growth is now at 157% this quarter for revenue of $437 million. As we move along, Credo’s YoY growth is expected to sustain in the 50% to 80% range. 

However, Credo’s guide makes it abundantly clear that optics is their growth story moving forward. The company is expected to exit the year with about $150 million or more in optics revenue per quarter, which represents the entirety of the QoQ growth as we enter FQ3 and FQ4. In other words, without optics, Credo would have been moving into flat to negative QoQ growth by the January and April quarter.  

This is important because it helps to frame the challenge that lies ahead for Credo, which is that already in this fiscal year, they had to innovate quickly to keep growth rates sustained. As the company exits the year, it’s expected to report 30% QoQ growth by combining a strong base off AECs with its new optics growth market. 

The growth is expected to sharply inflect in the back half of the year as Credo prepares to ramp a trio of optical products – optical DSPs, SiPho photonic ICs (acquired from Dust), and ZeroFlap optics. Credo expects each of the three to contribute more than $100 million in revenue in FY27, with optics in total contributing more than $600 million for the year with the ramp accelerating in 2H. As it stands, current estimates point to growth reaccelerating to nearly 28% QoQ in FQ3 (the January 2027 quarter) and maintaining roughly 24% QoQ in FQ4 as optics layers in to growth.   

While analysts rightfully picked up on the fact that the $100 million each and $600 million total optical revenue guidance implied revenue is skewed towards one of the three products (it was later revealed to be ZeroFlap), the bigger takeaway is that optics are contributing half of Credo’s YoY growth on a dollar basis:  

“If you kind of break that down or dive into that a little bit deeper, what you'll see is based on that guidance, if you look at absolute dollars year-over-year expectation for fiscal '27, about half of that growth in absolute dollars is coming from our optical portfolio and about half of that is coming from our existing copper portfolio, predominantly AECs, but also retimers.” 

Credo also provided some context ASPs for its optical suite, with the ZF optics ramp in part due to it carrying a triple-digit ASP versus a double-digit ASP for PICs and DSPs: 

“To give a little more color on your first question earlier, the ASPs on the discrete components, optical DSPs and cyclo PICs, those ASPs are typically 2-digit ASPs. On the ZF Optics, we're going to see 3-digit ASPs. And so I didn't mean to be a bit elusive or not answer your question. But I think the math clearly says that as we ramp ZF Optics, that's going to be clearly our largest revenue contributor for our optical portfolio that the potential there is great.” 

CEO Bill Brennan also commented that a majority of the growth in FY27 will likely be attributed to scale-out demand, with scale-up only beginning to ramp with FY28 being more substantial, though mix will ultimately depend on customer deployment.  

Major Nvidia Supplier for AECs 

Credo is known for its ‘purple cables’, its AECs, that were pivotal in helping Nvidia scale to 72 GPUs per rack, with systems seeing up to 1,000x greater reliability versus commodity optical modules with lower power consumption.  

As Blackwell and Blackwell Ultra ramped, Credo’s dominance over the AEC market was quite clear, with analysts implying in late October that the company held as much as 88% market share, benefiting from high-volume deployments. For example, xAI asked Credo specifically for 7 meter AECs as it re-architected its 100K-GPU Colossus cluster for liquid cooling, with the extended reach allowing them to “connect all of their GPUs, switches with AECs, which are fundamentally bulletproof from a reliability perspective.” 

However, it’s not just for Nvidia where Credo finds success, as this reliability improvement and an up to 7 meter reach for both intra-rack and multi-rack connectivity has seen other hyperscalers adopt Credo’s AECs. For example, Amazon displayed the hallmark purple cables for intra-rack connectivity for its Trainium servers:  

Source: Amazon 

Despite constant shifts in narrative over copper’s remaining useful lifetime at 200G speeds and concerns over reach and signal integrity, Credo’s copper growth is remaining in the near term, and could still have a solid foundation with Nvidia’s Rubin, as the copper-to-optics boundary is not expected to move heavily in favor of optics until Rubin Ultra later next year.  

More on ZeroFlap Optics, Ramp and Supply Preparations in Place 

Given its experience in AECs and the success it has built on the accelerator-agnostic purple cables, it’s not a leap to think Credo will do well on an optical version of cables, its ZeroFlap (ZF) optics. Credo’s ZF optics support 400G, 800G and 1.6T speeds with reach of up to 500 meters, with Credo’s PILOT software used for telemetry and link health monitoring.  

As noted above, ZF optics are expected to drive Credo’s revenue inflection in 2H as the line ramps, though management explained that there could be shifts in timing for the upgrade cycle from 800G to 1.6T depending on Nvidia’s Rubin and customer preference. This could have some impacts on the shape of the revenue ramp, as 1.6T carries a higher ASP versus the 800G products, similar to ASP dynamics at other transceiver vendors: 

“On the transition from 800-gig to 1.6T. Of course, the timing is going to shift a lot about the deployment of Rubin and really each of the customers' individual strategy. Some will be very delayed. Some will be first to deploy. But I think the exact timing of the transition will move somewhat as the platforms evolve.” 

Management added that 200G/lane revenue (1.6T) is expected to be relatively light in FY27, implying larger 1.6T contributions could arise in FY28. 

Regardless of the timing of the 1.6T transition for Credo and the ASP uplift, management has been quietly preparing for the optics pivot behind the scenes, with CEO Bill Brennan explaining at BofA’s conference shortly after earnings that the company has been building demand for six months, and securing supply for 12: 

“We've been in the demand generation mode for probably 6 months or so since OCP last year. But we've been in a mode of locking in supply for more than 12 months. And so leaning in with 3 partners that will assemble these transceivers, locking in supply of lasers, locking in supply of every component and the overall capacity. 

I mentioned on the call that exiting this year, we'll be producing numbers that are measured in 100,000 unit increments monthly, and then we're going to be doubling and tripling that in the following year. So we're going to have the supply to match the demand that we're generating.”exiting this year, we'll be producing numbers that are measured in 100,000 unit increments monthly, and then we're going to be doubling and tripling that in the following year. So we're going to have the supply to match the demand that we're generating.” 

For a bit of speculative, back-of-napkin math, assuming $0.75/gig pricing for the 800G optics and assuming those take majority share in FY27, ramping to 100K monthly capacity and sustaining that for one quarter implies quarterly optics revenue of up to $180 million. Doubling or tripling capacity to ~300K and shifting to a higher mix of 1.6T in FY28 (say 50/50 with 800G), for example, could help push optics-driven quarterly revenue towards $900 million in that upper scenario. 

Credo’s Reliability Advantage 

As mentioned above, Credo’s main advantage comes down to reliability, and it’s why you will hear management refer to reliability as their ‘North Star’ that guides their product roadmap. This dedication to reliability also underpins Credo’s pivot to optics, and why the company could have more of an edge than expected with its optics portfolio against the incumbents via rich telemetry. 

As clusters scale from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of accelerators, reliability becomes one of the most important factors. Credo’s management explained that connections between top-of-rack (TOR) switches and NICs have no redundancy, so any instabilities within these first link connections from GPU to switch could bring the entire cluster down.  

When you factor in the cost of building a 100K GPU cluster, or roughly 1,390 GB200 NVL72 racks costing approximately $4.2 billion (at a $3 million ASP), extended downtime from link instability affecting cluster stand-up or deployment directly impacts revenue and margins. This is especially important for neoclouds in ramp phases, who cannot afford delays and are increasingly turning to Credo for its reliability and advantage in helping stand up clusters quicker: 

“So basically, bringing up a cluster quickly, time to stability, which is dollars. If you buy billions of dollars of gear and it takes you 8 weeks or 12 weeks to bring the cluster up to a stable point so you can start generating revenue, that is hugely expensive compared to bringing it up in a week and then keeping it at near 100% uptime.” 

As to how this fits in to Credo’s burgeoning optics portfolio, the acquisition of Dust Photonics brought SiPho PIC tech into Credo’s stack, complementing its 100G and 200G DSPs, Robin and Cardinal. Extending its ownership of the optical stack down to the DSP and PIC level for its ZF optics gives Credo a much higher degree of visibility into signal performance and link behavior:  

“[ZF optics] was designed for that link or eliminating link instabilities between GPUs and switches, not at a core technology level, but by going up the stack. So designing a custom DSP that was capable of lighting up rich telemetry on every link. … The tighter DSP to PIC integration enables richer telemetry, enhanced diagnostics and more intelligent system-level optimization. …  

So lighting up rich telemetry on all of those links so that we can predict when a link instability is going to happen because we're monitoring signal integrity continuously across the entire cluster where ZF Optics are deployed.” 

This is how Credo finds its differentiation factor versus the incumbent optics vendors, within telemetry, reliability and visibility into optical performance. Credo is not competing against commodity optics but rather providing an upgrade with a more feature-rich product, offering an ability to preemptively identify potential causes of link failure, address it before it occurs, and increase cluster reliability and time to deployment. These are all key features that will help hyperscalers and neoclouds maximize GPU utilization, minimize downtime and maximize revenues. 

Dust Photonics for CPO/NPO  

Credo recently closed on its acquisition of Dust Photonics, not only bringing its SiPho PIC tech to its optics stack as mentioned above, but also providing Credo with a direct path to CPO and NPO architectures, letting the company quickly branch into the upcoming higher-growth vectors in the optical landscape.  

Dust provides an immediate expansion of Credo’s optics portfolio to 800G and 1.6T, with a roadmap to >3.2T, giving Credo a quick path to entry into the leading data rates on the market with potentially simplified development timelines for next-gen 3.2T products. This may help position Credo at the forefront of the optical transitions from 1.6T to 3.2T over the coming years, considering 800G is still ramping in volume and the 1.6T transition is currently underway.  

Credo also expects the path to CPO and NPO via Dust to happen relatively quickly, building off of its SiPho suite. Management outlined initial revenue for both CPO and NPO designs to arrive in FY28 (starting July 2027) based on current customer engagements, which aligns with current timing discussions from Astera expecting NPO to begin ramping in 2027.  

However, the most important part of the Dust acquisition is that Dust’s designs enable simpler optical architectures and reduced laser counts, both of which could facilitate stronger optical growth for Credo in a laser-constrained industry. Dust says its L3C tech uses simple lasers and reduced laser counts, which reduces bill of materials and increases yield for optical modules, while also reducing power consumption and lessening supply chain constraints. This could facilitate Credo’s entry and ramp into CPO and NPO-based architectures considering the supply chain challenges that Lumentum and other incumbents are facing when it comes to InP-based lasers.  

Next Year’s Catalyst: Active LED Cables and Weaver Chiplets 

Credo has a few more cards up its sleeve and two new catalysts on the horizon for 2027 (fiscal 2028): active LED cables and its Weaver gearbox chiplets. We first covered the two back in December with Q2’s report. 

Active LED cables are pluggable optical solutions that use micro LEDs as the light source (acquired with Hyperlume), which effectively extend its AEC strengths to longer distances, serving both scale-out and scale-up needs. ALCs represent Credo’s preparation for a cable-based future beyond AECs at 400G speeds, as management notes ALCs deliver the same reliability, power and cost efficiency as AECs with connections reaching up to 30 meters, or >4X that of the 7 meters AECs offer.  

Sampling of first ALC products is expected to occur in FY27, though the production ramp and revenue generation is currently slated for FY28. As we discussed in our Q2 write-up, management ultimately believes the ALC TAM to be more than double the size of its AEC TAM, with the opportunity likely rooted in the extension towards a 30 meter reach. Management this quarter described ALCs as having a very natural evolution from AECs for customers deploying the product, which could set the stage for a rapid revenue ramp come FY28 and FY29: 

“And so for certain customers, that's going to be a really natural product to get from a design in and beginning of production. So the dynamic there could be very much similar to AECs and ZF Optics in the sense that we can see large revenue quickly.” 

Moving over to Weaver, which is the first product of Credo’s OmniConnect strategy to leverage its copper (and optics) portfolio for die-to-die solutions. Weaver is Credo’s solution to attack the inference memory wall with a fanout gearbox chiplet leveraging 112G very-short-reach SerDes. This addresses the ‘fanout’ problem, where DDR memory systems become constrained by limited I/O density as memory dies can only be accessed by a limited number of pins. Credo/s fanout gearbox aims to increase I/O density by 10X and offer 16TB/s of memory bandwidth and 6.4TB of memory density to mitigate this limitation.  

Credo’s first customer for Weaver, AI chip startup Positron, is preparing to launch two inference accelerator engines in 2027, Asimov and Titan. Asimov features LPDDR memory capacity of up to 2.3TB per chip (without using HBM), which Credo states is “more than 10x any other inference engine that's been announced in the market. So game changing from the standpoint of performance.” Compare this to the GB200 Superchip, which carries 372GB of HBM memory per chip, or AMD’s MI355X, which carries 288GB. 

Asimov also packs in realizable memory bandwidth of 2.76 TB/s per chip with a power draw of just 400W, scaling to 16,384 chips in a single cluster, which could make it an interesting memory-optimized, power efficient choice for inference.  

Positron’s Titan combines four Asimov chips into one system, offering more than 8TB of LPDDR memory with 32TB/s of external chip-to-chip bandwidth (half of Vera Rubin NVL72’s 65TB/s) in an air-cooled form factor capable of scaling to 4,096 chips per cluster – at that 4,096 chip cluster size, Titan would offer nearly 33 PB of LPDDR memory, whereas a similar sized cluster of Rubin NVL72’s would offer nearly 1.2 PB of HBM4. With this memory, Positron says Titan is capable of supporting 10 million token context windows and could enable a 2030-class of frontier- model in 2027.   

While it is still unclear how quickly Positron will ramp these new chips, Credo is seeing a rather large revenue opportunity from Weaver, benefiting from a high ASP: “Now if 2 terabytes are deployed, that requires many, many Weaver chips. And what I've said in the past is that the revenue contribution per GPU can be between $2,000 and $3,000.  And so you can see that, that product category will ramp very quickly as well as we've got customers that go into volume with their inference GPUs that utilize that solution.” 

Financials Overview 

Credo’s growth decelerated in FQ4 to 157% YoY to $437 million, a more than 44 point deceleration, while QoQ growth came in at 7.4%, moderating from FQ3’s 51.9% print. Credo guided for this YoY deceleration to continue in FQ1 to 111% YoY at $465-475 million, while QoQ growth would be sustained at 7.6%. QoQ growth is expected to inflect come 2H FY27 (the Jan 2027 quarter) with Credo returning to >24% QoQ in both FQ3 and FQ4.  

Credo is benefitting from strong operating leverage – while GAAP gross margin expanded 1 point YoY to 68.3%, GAAP operating margin expanded nearly 16 points YoY to a strong 35.7%. This operating leverage is visible in Credo’s strong GAAP EPS growth, up 340% in FQ4 to $0.88.  

For a quick look at FY27, Credo guided for YoY growth of >80%, implying revenue exceeding $2.41 billion. Credo’s bottom line is expected to remain strong, with GAAP EPS currently expected to rise 98% YoY to $4.98. 

Key Metrics 

Credo’s inventories as of FQ4 were $250.8 million, up 20.6% QoQ from $208 million in FQ3, with this growth predominantly driven by a $49 million increase in raw materials, up 320% QoQ, offsetting a slight decrease in finished goods. This adds a layer of confidence in Credo’s upcoming growth inflection and optics ramp in 2H. Credo does have a high degree of customer concentration, reporting three >10% customers in FY26, accounting for 84% of revenue; its two largest customers accounted for 65%, at 32% and 33% respectively (with the 33% customer down from 63% in FY25).  

Conclusion 

Credo’s AECs were instrumental in driving up to 1,000x greater reliability versus commodity optics as Nvidia’s racks scaled to 72 GPUs, while consuming much less power. The company is looking to take this reliability and power-efficiency advantage to quickly iterate for optics, with its ZF optics platform expected to be the cornerstone of a rapid ramp to >$600 million in optics revenue this year.  

The driving factor behind management’s confidence in achieving this accelerated ramp in a crowded optics landscape is two-fold: leveraging its reliability strengths, with ZF optics continuously monitoring link health, autonomously detecting and mitigating link instabilities to maximize GPU utilization and minimize cluster downtime; and building a full-stack platform with upsell opportunities for its PICs and 100G and 200G DSPs.

Damien Robbins, Equity Analyst at I/O Fund contributed to this analysis.

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Broadcom Offers Strong AI Growth at Scale; Yet Enters Circular Investing

Posted on June 4, 2026June 30, 2026 by io-fund

By most measures, Broadcom offered a solid report with record revenue of $22.2 billion, up 48% YoY driven by AI semiconductor revenue of $10.8 billion, up 143% YoY. The Q3 outlook topped estimates on total revenue with management guiding for $29.4 billion, yet the Q3 AI guide came in below expectations for $17.2 billion. In addition, management did not offer a raise to previous commentary that they foresee $100 billion in FY27 AI revenue. The softer AI guide is due to a slight pivot in how they plan to supply Anthropic, which will be with XPU chips instead of AI systems, with the latter offering higher revenue yet weaker margins (more on this below).

Overall, Broadcom is well positioned, based on a combination of being the strongest XPU player and a formidable networking giant. In fact, networking comprised 40% of AI revenue this quarter, and even though it's expected to be lower in the near future, that is only because XPUs are expected to eclipse networking from 60/40 to 70/30.

Perhaps somewhat buried by the AI number miss is that Broadcom is entering the circular investing arena by standing up an external financing vehicle with Apollo, Blackstone and other investors to deploy 20GW of compute through 2028, with the first tranche valued at $35 billion. The announcement is a reminder that demand is being heavily funded for companies that are deep in the red and would otherwise see bad credit terms (such as Anthropic and OpenAI).

Below, we look at what caused the softer AI guide and why a softer AI guide is not a concern, whereas circular investing raises questions.

"Only Chips” is What Caused the Softer AI Guide 

The softer AI guide traces back to the fiscal Q3 and fiscal Q4 call awhile back when Broadcom management stated they would be delivering Ironwood racks: “Last quarter, one of these prospects released production orders to Broadcom, and we have accordingly characterized them as a qualified customer for XPUs and, in fact, have secured over $10 billion of orders of AI racks based on our XPUs.”

However, management was quite evasive when analysts had asked for clarification between chips and racks two quarters ago. There was more than one attempt for clarification, yet the one below stands out. Here is what was stated in the FYQ4 call:

“Vivek Arya: BofA Securities, Research Division:
And on the clarification, Hock, Anthropic racks versus chips.

Hock Tan: President, CEO & Executive Director:
I'd rather not answer that, but we're okay. As Kirsten said, we're good on our dollars and margin.”

However, on the earnings call this evening, the CEO had a change of heart and decided to stop dodging the question and rather inform investors they are only supplying the chips.

Ross Seymore 
Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division
And the rack versus chip side of things, is that all clarified now?

Hock Tan 
President, CEO & Executive Director
No racks it's all chip…

Kirsten Spears 
CFO & Chief Accounting Officer
We are on a chip business only.

Hock Tan 
President, CEO & Executive Director
We are only chips.

Kirsten Spears 
CFO & Chief Accounting Officer
Only chips.”

This shift in deal structure has puts and takes for how analysts model Broadcom’s AI revenue this year, as booking the full revenue for the full AI system inflates revenue (because the components would become a passthrough) yet would have diluted Broadcom’s margins. That’s why directly preceding the “only chips” exchange; the analyst was pressing Broadcom on how their margins would be affected by selling systems. Personally, I’m not a fan when there are repeated attempts by analysts to clarify guidance assumptions; those questions are not answered directly, and then a miss occurs after walking back the original framing. 

However, that opinion aside, the miss is inconsequential to the bigger picture. Broadcom emphasized they booked $30 billion in AI orders compared to the $10.8 billion shipped. Management also stated they have visibility into 2028, although that might not be a good thing if the visibility stems from sourcing chips well in advance while having to secure power and other supply constrained components.  

For additional color on the growing backlog and visibility, this was stated on the call: “See a lot of large — this few six customers now, they realize that lead time to get compute, you need lead time. You need to be thoughtful. And that's not just asking for wafers to get the chips or memory to ensure that HBMs are available or DRAM is available. They're also talking about, hey, I got to have the power, the power shell. So all this is planning ahead.

And what we are seeing the bookings that are coming is not for immediate delivery. Some are hope to have, but the reality, they all accept is they need to align quite a few other things in place before they can deliver. But they are placing their orders early and they're placing their orders now, and they are placing orders in fairly huge demand, which basically gives us a lot more visibility than we normally otherwise would have in semiconductors.” 

On the earnings call, an analyst pointed out that if you look at the 10 gigawatts that Broadcom expects to help deploy next year, priced at $15 billion to $20 billion, the $100B medium-term forecast seems low.  

Furthermore, there aresix customers driving the AI orders, whereas in the past Broadcom has been highly concentrated with Google as the primary customer. These customers include Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, and two more unnamed customers.

Lastly, content per gigawatt was touched on, with the CEO stating Broadcom’s revenue will increase from one generation to the next: “Our revenue — our content per gigawatt will increase. Put it simply, our content from the fact that our compute chip will — XPU will go up in price very dramatically, particularly when you not only put SRAMs into it, as far as it cost, you start putting a lot — you start putting embedding CPU costs into the same XPUs and making those chips basically multi-die with lots of HBM.”

Broadcom to Backstop Anthropic; Deploy 20GW through 2028 with Blackstone, Apollo 

Broadcom is helping to arrange a $35-$36 billion private-credit facility arranged by Apollo and Blackstone to help fund and purchase the deployment of custom TPUs. According to Bloomberg, Broadcom has agreed to backstop part of the debt (about $25 billion) with its top-tier investment-grade credit rating around 5.75% compared to the portion without a backer at 8% to 9% yield. In other words, Broadcom’s strong balance sheet is the reason lenders are extending tens of billions to a customer that is not yet profitable. 

Oddly enough, when asked on the call if Anthropic’s deal was backstopped, the CEO pushed back and said the company is strictly supplying chips. Here is what was stated on the call: “As the deal we did with Anthropic is we use our TPU chips that we developed to provide the compute capacity to Anthropic. We want that it wasn't backstop in that sense. We were the ones providing the chips to Anthropic. We were the ones providing the compute capacity Anthropic.” 

Although Broadcom is not taking equity, and the capital is private credit, according to Bloomberg, the company is lending its credit rating to manufacture demand from a buyer that cannot yet fund the purchase on its own. Therefore, it does closely resemble a backstop. 

Noteworthy Discussions: Incremental Supply and 2027-2028 Commentary 

There was an exchange on the call that points toward 2027-2028 being strong years for Broadcom, with management stating: “Well, good question. Yes, for '27, we indicated about 10 gigawatts shipment in '27. That's still very much intact. That will be shipping — and we are planning to ship 10 gigawatts in '27. And that nothing has changed. Back half loaded, to that extend? Yes, and which really provides an interesting trajectory into '28 with this back half trajectory. So '28, we expect a lot more gigawatts.” 

Also, in another exchange, an analyst asked if Broadcom can secure incremental supply, which would point toward a ceiling to growth. There wasn’t much revealed in the exchange, yet an analyst having this concern in a very supply constrained market (CPUs, HBM, NAND, CoWoS capacity, etc) is noteworthy: 

Timothy Arcuri 
UBS Investment Bank, Research Division 

Right. But if a customer comes to you and wants incremental supply, are you able to go to your suppliers and get it the way that it seems like some of your competitors are? 

Hock Tan 
President, CEO & Executive Director 

Customers have been coming to us incrementally over the last few months. We expect that to continue. And by and large, yes. 

Q2 Revenue Beats by 0.3%; Q3 Guide Implies Acceleration to 84% YoY  

Broadcom reported Q2 revenue of $22.19 billion, beating consensus of $22.12 billion by a marginal 0.3%, growing 47.9% YoY and 14.9% QoQ. While the headline beat was modest — Broadcom’s smallest in five quarters — YoY growth accelerated for the fifth consecutive quarter, picking up another 18 points from 29.5% in Q1 and marking Broadcom’s fastest YoY growth since the immediate post-VMware-close quarters. 

For Q3 FY2026, Broadcom guided to revenue of approximately $29.4 billion, ahead of consensus for $28.47 billion. At the midpoint, the guide implies sharp acceleration to 84.3% YoY and 32.5% QoQ — a sequential dollar increase of more than $7.2 billion, which is itself larger than the company’s entire quarterly revenue base just three years ago. The QoQ dollar step-up of $7.2 billion exceeds the $2.9 billion QoQ step-up between Q1 and Q2, underscoring that Broadcom’s AI ramp is materially compounding. 

Fiscal 2026 consensus revenue estimates have inched slightly higher over the last three months, moving up 5.4% from $97.7 billion to $103.1 billion; the nearly $1 billion beat on Q3’s guide implies FY26 estimates have a bit more upside ahead. Fiscal 2027 consensus have jumped even more sharply to $161.0 billion (+56.2% YoY) from $135.9 billion in March, representing a +$25 billion revision driven by management’s commentary into >$100 billion in chip revenue alongside multiple multi-GW commitments from OpenAI, Anthropic and key customers Meta and Google. 

AI Revenue Up 143% YoY; Q3 Guide Implies >200% YoY but Short of $17.2B Estimate, Possible Q4 Decel 

AI semiconductor revenue was once again the centerpiece of the report. Q2 AI revenue grew 143% YoY and 28.6% QoQ to $10.8 billion driven by increasing demand for custom silicon and networking, beating management’s own guide of $10.7 billion (+140% YoY). YoY growth accelerated another 37 points from 106% in Q1, marking the fourth consecutive quarter of acceleration.  

For Q3, Broadcom guided AI semiconductor revenue to $16.0 billion, implying 200% YoY growth and a material acceleration to 48.1% QoQ. This sequential dollar step-up of $5.2 billion in AI revenue is more than double Q2’s $2.5 billion; however, it fell short of the $17.2 billion estimate.  

For FY26, Broadcom guided for $56 billion in AI revenue, up 180% YoY, while reiterating its >$100 billion guidance for FY27.  

This would plot out $20.8 billion in AI revenue in Q4, decelerating from the 48.1% QoQ guided in Q3 to 30% QoQ, and implying sequential dollar growth to moderate from $5.2 billion to $4.8 billion. JP Morgan’s Harlan Sur questioned about this deceleration dynamic, noting that 2X growth in 2H over 1H would put revenue closer to $60 billion, rather than the $56 billion guided. While the exchange with CEO Hock Tan suggests Broadcom may be taking quite a conservative stance in guiding through 2H while remaining positive on FY27’s prospects, the sequential deceleration on both a percent and dollar basis presents a risk to watch:  

“Hock, on this fiscal year, AI sort of 2x growth second half over first half, that would put AI revenues over $60 billion with sequential growth in fiscal Q4, but you gave us this $56 billion number, which is only like 1.5x half-over-half growth with 4Q AI actually being down sequentially. So if you could just help us kind of square the numbers there. 

Hock Tan
President, CEO & Executive Director 

To begin with, let's start with '26. Doing a math basically 2x to 2x, the first half, we ship about in total AI revenue, something in the range of $19 billion, you're going to be precise. So — and if you do what I indicate and 2x that in the second half, you get pretty much in the range of what we're talking about, which is around $56 billion, Harlan. 

So that number is still very, very — does tie up very well. Now your bigger question on the second half, which you're going to need a very detailed analysis of is, yes, we keep the momentum going as we expect to see in 2027. What we will see in 2027 is continued growth of the level we're talking about. And if you drive on that basis of what we're seeing here, almost 2x — in the range of 2x what 2026 will be. 

I think you will easily see that 2027 will exceed very easily $100 billion in 2027, which is pretty much what we indicated last quarter, and we are continuing to say that it will be over $100 billion in 2027. So in that sense, if anything else, it might be based on what we're doing, very much on track, if not stronger.” 

Semiconductors Up 79% YoY; Software In-Line at 9% YoY  

Semiconductor Solutions revenue was $15.01 billion in Q2, up 78.5% YoY and 20.1% QoQ, beating the company’s own guide of $14.8 billion (76% YoY). YoY growth accelerated 26 points from 52% in Q1, with AI now contributing approximately 72% of Semiconductor segment revenue, up from 67% in Q1.  

Infrastructure Software revenue was $7.18 billion, marginally below the company’s ~$7.2 billion guide and up 8.8% YoY and 5.4% QoQ. YoY growth rate decelerated from the elevated VMware-integration period a year ago. For Q3, Broadcom guided for Semiconductor revenue of $20.5 billion, up 124% YoY and 36.6% QoQ, and Infrastructure Software revenue of $8.9 billion, accelerating sharply to 31% YoY and 24% QoQ.  

Margins: Operating Leverage Drives GAAP Expansion  

Q2 margins highlighted the operating leverage thesis that has underpinned the Broadcom story since the VMware close, with GAAP profitability expanding as revenue scaled against a largely fixed cost base. 

Q2 GAAP gross margin was 69.5%, expanding 150bps YoY and 140bps QoQ. Adjusted gross margin was 77.1%, in line with management’s 77% guide and expanding 10bps QoQ from 77.0% in Q1 — notable because it dispelled the prior concern that the rising XPU mix would pressure gross margins. Adjusted gross margin remains down 230bps YoY (from 79.4% in Q2 FY25) due to a higher custom-silicon mix, but the QoQ stability suggests the mix headwind has largely played through.  

Q2 GAAP operating margin was 48.6%, expanding 980bps YoY and 430bps QoQ — a solid demonstration of operating leverage as semiconductor revenue scaled approximately $4.5 billion above Q2 FY25 levels while opex grew only ~6%. Adjusted operating margin was 67.3%, beating the 67% guide and expanding 200bps YoY and 90bps QoQ. For Q3, Broadcom guided adjusted operating margin to ~67% (flat sequentially).

Q2 GAAP net margin was 42.0%, expanding 890bps YoY and 390bps QoQ. Adjusted net margin was 54.4%, expanding 250bps YoY and 170bps QoQ.  

EPS and Adjusted EBITDA 

Adjusted EPS was $2.44 in Q2, beating estimates of $2.40 by 1.7%, marking Broadcom’s second consecutive quarter of sub-2% EPS beats. Adjusted EPS grew 54.4% YoY, accelerating from 28.1% in Q1. GAAP EPS was $1.91, growing 85.4% YoY. 

While Broadcom did not guide directly for Q3 earnings, the $1 billion beat on revenue and margin maintenance suggests potential upside to current estimates for $3.18 in adjusted EPS, up 88.1% YoY. This is also likely to put upwards pressure on FY26 estimates, which sit at $11.33, up 66.1% YoY. Similar to revenue, FY27 EPS estimates have seen a strong upwards revision over the last three months, up 27% from $14.56 in March to $18.50, driven by the expected surge in AI revenue next year.   

Adjusted EBITDA was $15.24 billion at a 68.7% margin, beating the 68% guide and growing 52.4% YoY and 16.1% QoQ. Adjusted EBITDA was guided to be ~68% of revenue in Q3, a marginal step-down versus Q2. 

Cash Flows and Balance Sheet  

Cash generation in Q2 was exceptional, with both OCF and FCF margins reaching post-VMware highs and dollar generation setting new records. 

Operating cash flow was $10.49 billion in Q2 for a 47.3% margin, up 60.1% YoY in dollar terms and 27.0% QoQ. OCF margin expanded 360bps YoY and 450bps QoQ as higher-margin AI revenue mix flowed through to cash conversion.  

Free cash flow was $10.26 billion for a 46.2% margin, up 60.1% YoY and 28.1% QoQ, with capex of just $231 million (1.0% of revenue, down slightly from $250 million in Q1). FCF margin expanded 350bps YoY and 470bps QoQ. 

Cash and equivalents climbed to $19.63 billion at quarter-end, up from $14.17 billion in Q1. Debt declined modestly to $64.91 billion. The combination of moderating buybacks and accelerating FCF means Broadcom’s net debt position has improved by approximately $6.6 billion over the past two quarters, providing meaningful flexibility for either an acceleration of buybacks, M&A, or — given the AI ramp — potential incremental capacity investments. 

Inventory rose sharply to $4.33 billion at quarter-end, up 46% QoQ from $2.96 billion in Q1, a meaningful supply-side signal that reinforces management’s confidence in the Q3 and Q4 AI ramp. Days sales outstanding extended to 44 days (from 40 days in Q1), reflecting the rising mix of larger hyperscaler customers with longer payment terms, though still well within historical norms. Both metrics — accelerating inventory build and modestly extending receivables — are consistent with a company gearing up for a sharp sequential ramp rather than one facing demand softness, mirroring similar supply-side signals seen at Nvidia and other AI infrastructure peers.

Conclusion: 

Broadcom’s AI revenue growth on a YoY and QoQ basis is stunning on all accounts, especially given its growth at scale. Most importantly, Broadcom is diversifying its customer base to six customers with bookings running 3X shipments with visibility into 2028.

Management did not provide an updated guide for FY27, which may be partly due to the chip-only content that led to next quarter’s miss, but it could also be they are not sure when their customers will secure the other supply constrained components.

The more immediate reason the report is likely selling off after hours due to bringing up an important modeling question, which is how much revenue should be assigned to each gigawatt of XPU compute? Rack-level assumptions imply a much larger revenue opportunity than chip-only content, thus we are seeing an adjustment after hours. As you can tell from my write-up, I think this was an avoidable communication issue on management’s part, especially given the repeated attempts by analysts to clarify the rack-versus-chip economics in previous earnings calls.

However, a minor miss on surging AI revenue will soon be water under the bridge. The larger concern is around circular AI investments, which are likely here to stay. Broadcom is now tethered to AI customers that need enormous compute capacity but are not yet profitable at the scale required to fund it internally. The creation of financing vehicles with Apollo, Blackstone and other investors is one strategic solution, yet it’s not exactly ideal to lend your own credit rating to manufacture customer demand, especially given Anthropic is likely years away from profitability.

That’s a wrap! I/O Fund just had one of our best quarters ever, helped by strong positioning ahead of the Nasdaq’s historic April rally. Let’s see if we can do it again. Keep an eye out for upcoming analysis on new stocks we may add to the portfolio as we rotate out of weaker names, plus my Q3 Top 15 AI Stocks report, due next month.

Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the company’s portfolio. We then share that information with our readers and offer real-time trade notifications. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance and it is not financial advice. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis. Beth Kindig and the I/O Fund own shares in AVGO at the time of writing and may own stocks pictured in the charts.

Damien Robbins, Equity Analyst at I/O Fund contributed to this analysis.

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Applied Optoelectronics Q4: Signs of an Inflection Point 

Posted on February 27, 2026June 30, 2026 by io-fund

As you’ll recall last quarter, AOI (Nasdaq: AAOI) missed earnings due to orders getting pushed out to Q4. Therefore, it was quite important that AOI meet expectations following the delay. The company’s revenue grew 34% YoY and 13% QoQ and guided to grow 58% YoY and 17% QoQ for Q1. Of this, data center inflected with growth of 69% YoY and 70% QoQ. Suffice to say, AOI met the bar set for the company with momentum headed into 2026. 

During the call, management focused on detailing the ramp for 800G and 1.6T with targets shared through mid-2027. The forecast implies that AOI’s optical attach per unit of compute is rising as network sizes increase to include more lanes and more links. For example, the 800G era is widely expected to require record ports, resulting in higher revenue for optical networking companies. The industry is shifting from 400G to 800G with 1.6T on the roadmap as throughput becomes more critical with the incoming inference phase.  

Management also offered details on how much of their supply is internal and their customer list has increased from one major customer to now two major customers.  

$1 Billion Targets for 2026 and Updated Target for Mid-2027 

Management offered a forecast for mid-2027 of $378 million per month with the framework of 800G being the bulk of the revenue, 1.6T contributing and some 100G/400G content contributing yet the lowest of the mix. Importantly, management framed this discussion as being capacity-constrained rather than demand-constrained. In the more near-term, management guided for $1 billion in 2026 revenue with $120 million in adjusted operating profit. 

The following was stated in the opening remarks: 

“Given the recent surge in customer inquiries and apparent rising demand, we believe that by mid-2027, 100G and 400G revenue will be approximately $90 million. 800G revenue will be approximately $217 million and 1.6 terabit revenue will be approximately $71 million monthly. Altogether, this represents $378 million in monthly revenue for transceiver products.” 

The company also stated they expect $1 billion in revenue this year compared to analyst estimates that are just shy of $764 million: “Looking more broadly at 2026. While it's still early in the year, we expect to generate over $1 billion in revenue this year, with a non-GAAP operating profit of over $120 million. This revenue level is limited by our production capacity and supply chain, not market demand, which we believe is much larger.” 

Capacity is Expanding and Customer List Ticks Upward 

At the end of 2025, the company was producing 90,000 units per month of 800G capacity with 31% of that production based in the United States. Therefore, a sizable amount of AOI’s revenue could be subject to tariffs should that surface again in the news. 

The company’s U.S. footprint is cantered in Texas with an additional facility recently leased to support 2026 goals. The goal is to end the year producing 500,000+ units per month of 800G and 1.6T combined, with roughly one-quarter of output coming from Texas.  

“During the fourth quarter, we announced that we signed an agreement to lease an additional building in Sugar Land. We began construction on this new facility earlier this month and are working hard to scale our production towards the middle end of this year to achieve our 2026 targets. Looking further ahead, we expect that by the end of this year, we will be capable of producing over 500,000 pieces of 800G and 1.6 terabit products per month with about 1/4 of that output coming from Texas as we expand into additional facility space and bring new production online. These investments reflect measured scaling of our footprint while aligning with strong and growing customer demand and qualification progress across both 800G and 1.6 terabit products.” 

The majority of 2026 is expected to be driven by two hyperscaler customers, up from one major customer previously – with a third customer also soon contributing to revenue: 

“Stefan Murry   CFO & Chief Strategy Officer  

So if you break down the revenue, right, if you just take a round number of $1 billion, right? So track the [ 300-ish ] that we have in cable TV, that gives you $700 million-ish left over. Right now, I would expect that's going to be dominated by — most of that is going to be 2 large hyperscale customers. And they'll probably be roughly equivalent exiting the year. We'll see how that plays out. That's — it's pretty early to say exactly how the timing on that is going to go. But I would expect at least 2 to be sort of comparable in size, let's put it that way. And then obviously, the third one that would be smaller in scale, still significant.” 

Tariffs in the Background for Now 

Although tariffs are in the background for now, it’s important to emphasize that AOI is impacted by tariffs. For example, the CEO disclosed that AOI paid $4.6M in tariffs last quarter and $7-$8 million in tariffs last year.  

“Stefan Murry   CFO & Chief Strategy Officer  

I mean, sorry, if we could recoup all of it, we had about $4.6 million, I believe, just last quarter in tariffs. We probably paid last year $7 million or $8 million in tariffs overall. Again, we're still analyzing exactly how many of those are IEEPA related, not all tariffs that way. So there's a lot of nuance there, but I mean it's not going to dramatically change our picture, but — but it certainly would be a welcome cash flow development for sure.” 

Any tariffs will increase as the company scales, although the company is also trying to onshore as much of its production as possible, with management stating: “[…] So the more — as time goes on, the more we can manufacture in the U.S. and the more that we can attract other supply chain partners, which we are doing to move their production to the U.S. as well. that will help us in the long term, that's going to be the solution for really minimize the tariff impact.” 

Financials 

By Royston Roche 

2026 Revenue Guided over $1 Billion 

Applied Optoelectronics (AOI) Q4 revenue grew by 33.9% YoY and 13.2% QoQ to $134.3 million, beating estimates by 4.7%. The revenue growth was primarily driven by strong data center revenue which grew by 69.2% YoY and 70.4% QoQ to $74.9 million. 

During the quarter, the company also announced that they received the fourth 800G volume order from one of their major hyperscale customer to support its AI data center growth, which is likely to be Amazon. AOI has begun ramping up production of this 800G module in anticipation of a strong volume ramp starting in Q2. Management also mentioned in the earnings call that they are in discussion with a new hyperscale customer about qualifying for 800G and 1.6T products and sounded confident about the growth trajectory in both these products with multiple customers. 

Management also provided a strong Q1 revenue guide of $150 million to $165 million, implying a YoY growth of 57.7% and 17.3% QoQ at the midpoint. The strong Q1 revenue growth is led by sequential revenue growth in both CATV and data center revenue.  

The company’s 2025 revenue grew by a solid 82.8% YoY to $455.7 million. Management expects strong revenue growth to continue in the coming years and guided 2026 revenue of over $1 billion, implying a 119% YoY growth, beating estimates by 31%. The company’s CFO, Stefan Murry, said in the earnings call, “Looking more broadly at 2026. While it's still early in the year, we expect to generate over $1 billion in revenue this year, with a non-GAAP operating profit of over $120 million. This revenue level is limited by our production capacity and supply chain, not market demand, which we believe is much larger.” 

AOI has also witnessed a surge in customer inquiries due to the strong AI datacenter demand. Management believes that by mid-2027, 100G and 400G revenue will be about $90 million. While 800G revenue of about $217 million and 1.6 terabit revenue of $71 million monthly, totalling $378 million in monthly revenue for transceiver products. Management also believes that the customer demand is even larger than this. To accommodate this expected surge in demand, AOI is planning to more than triple the laser manufacturing in Texas. 

Key Segments 

Data Center Revenue Growth of 69% YoY and 70% QoQ 

The company’s Q4 data center revenue grew by 69.2% YoY and 70.4% QoQ to $74.9 million. The revenue growth sharply accelerated from 7.3% YoY and decline of (1.9%) QoQ in Q3. Revenue of 100G products grew by 54% YoY and 400G products grew by 141% YoY. 100G products accounted for 51% of data center revenue, 200G and 400G transceiver products accounted for 41%, and 8% was from 10G and 40G transceiver products. 

CATV Revenue 

The company’s Q4 CATV (Cable TV) revenue grew by 3.4% YoY and down (23.5%) QoQ to $54 million. Though there was a sharp deceleration from a record 237.1% YoY and 26.1% QoQ growth to $70.6 million in Q3, the revenue came close to the higher end range of the guidance of $50 million to $55 million. Management expects CATV revenue to be between $61 million and $67 million in Q1, implying a decline of (0.8%) YoY and 18.5% QoQ growth. While the vast majority of the CATV revenue expectations for 2026 are related to the amplifiers, management expects that they will generate some revenue from the software solutions this year. Also, the company’s QuantumLink software suite has the potential of generating $300 million in annual revenue.  

Telecom/Other Revenue 

Q4 telecom revenue grew by 44.6% YoY and 36.6% QoQ to $5.1 million. While the other revenue grew by 2.2% YoY and down (18.8%) QoQ to $0.29 million.  

Non-GAAP Profitability expected in Q2 

AOI has witnessed a turnaround in margins and expects to be sustainable profitable on an adjusted basis from Q2 driven by the shift to higher margin revenue, operational efficiencies, and leverage.  

  • The company’s Q4 gross profits grew by 46% YoY to $41.95 million. Gross profit margin improved by 250 basis points YoY and 320 basis points QoQ to 31.2%. Adjusted gross margins improved by 250 basis points YoY and 40 basis points sequentially to 31.4%, beating the guidance of 30%.  
  • The improvement in gross margins was primarily due to the favorable product mix and cost reduction efforts. Management expects gradual improvement in gross margins, although they expect data center revenue in the next few quarters to be slight headwind. They are confident to achieve the long-term adjusted gross margin target of 40% due to the shift towards higher margin products and operational efficiencies. For Q1, management has guided adjusted gross margin of 30%, down 70 basis points YoY and 140 basis points QoQ. 
  • Q4 operating margin was (8.6%) compared to (6.5%) in the same period last year and (15.3%) in the previous quarter. Adjusted operating margin was (5.3%) compared to (2.5%) in the same period last year and (8.7%) in the previous quarter. Management has guided adjusted operating margin of (4%) in Q1, an improvement of 80 basis points YoY and 130 basis points QoQ. 
  • Q4 adjusted net income was ($0.6 million) or (0.5%) of revenue compared to ($1.05 million) or (1%) of revenue in the same period last year. It was better than the guide of ($5.9 million) or (4.5%) of revenue. Management has guided Q1 adjusted net income of ($3.35 million) or (2.1%) of revenue.  
  • 2025 gross margin improved by 520 basis points YoY to 30%. 
  • Operating margin improved by 16.4 percentage points YoY to (12%). Adjusted operating margin improved by 11.9 percentage points YoY to (7.2%). Looking ahead, management guide implies adjusted operating margin to further improve by a solid 19.2 percentage points to 12%.  
  • Adjusted net margin showed an improvement of 960 basis points YoY to (3.5%). 

Adjusted EPS beat of 91% 

The company’s Q4 GAAP EPS came at ($0.03), beating estimates by $0.12. While the adjusted EPS came at ($0.01), beating estimates by 91%. Management has guided adjusted EPS of ($0.09) to break even in Q1, which is in-line with the estimates of ($0.05) at the midpoint. Analysts expect adjusted EPS to improve to $0.13 in Q2 and $0.28 in Q3. 

Cash Flow and Balance Sheet 

The company’s cash flows have been weak. However, with improved profitability expected in the coming quarters we could expect cash flows to improve.  

  • Q4 operating cash outflow was ($29.6 million) or (22%) of revenue compared to (24.6%) in the same period last year.  
  • Q4 free cash outflow was ($113.6 million) or (84.6%) of revenue compared to ($53.1 million) or (53%) of revenue in the same period last year. To support the strong expected growth capex grew by 227% YoY to $84 million in Q4. 
  • Cash and short-term investments were $216 million and debt of $197.2 million at the end of Q4 2025. The company also announced an equity offering of $250 million after the announcement of Q4 results.  
  • Inventories rose 7.6% QoQ to $183.1 million in Q4. 

Conclusion 

AOI’s report marked an important inflection that shows the company can execute following last quarter’s pushout. Management laid out visibility for 2026 and into mid-2027 as they seek to quickly increase capacity. It’s clear by the hour-long commentary in the call that the company is capacity and supply-chain constrained rather than demand constrained. Importantly, customer concentration is improving with a second major customer contributing in 2026 and a third on the way.  

Risks remain – such as tariff exposure and heavy capex cadence, especially since cash flows have been pressured as the company invests ahead of demand. If AOI can execute on the additional capacity, and sustain margins, then it has a strong, credible path to scale alongside the incoming 800G and 1.6T cycle.

Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the company’s portfolio. We then share that information with our readers and offer real-time trade notifications. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance and it is not financial advice. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis. Beth Kindig and the I/O Fund own shares in AAOI at the time of writing and may own stocks pictured in the charts.

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Astera Labs Q3 Earnings: Blowout Report Meets UALink Uncertainty  

Posted on November 5, 2025June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Astera Labs reported another impressive quarter in Q3 with revenue maintaining 20% QoQ growth, beating estimates by 11.7%, while GAAP operating and net margins showed solid QoQ expansion. Fiscal 2025 revenue is expected to be around $831 million at midpoint, $55 million above current estimates for $776 million and pointing to approximately 110% YoY growth. 

There are two items weighing on Astera’s report this evening. The first is the guide for Q4 of $249M at the midpoint, which implies 76.5% YoY growth yet 8% QoQ growth. This is a slowdown from the 20% QoQ growth this quarter.  

However, if we zoom out, we see this is actually a large beat as Q4 was slated to report $216.5M equaling a 15% beat. Also consider Astera has seen significant beats every quarter even after raising guidance, thus the conservatism we’ve seen thus far could continue. When looking at the bottom line, we see % surprise has been exceptional – don't believe I’ve seen this consistency and magnitude of bottom line beat before. 

Fundamentals aside, Astera’s stock has recently been haunted by Ethernet for Scale Up Networking (ESUN). ESUN was announced mid-October following the Open Compute Project conference with support from AI chip partners and strong Ethernet players, including Nvidia, AMD, Broadcom, Arista, Cisco, HPE, plus a few hyperscalers such as Meta, Microsoft and AI heavyweight OpenAI. The week of the announcement, Astera dropped as much as 33% from an October high of $225 to $154.  

Astera’s product line has greatly benefited from the boom in the PCIe networking protocol, and the readthrough is that PCIe will see competitive pressure from Ethernet.  

There is a lot to unpack from the earnings report, yet the PCIe versus ESUN debate takes precedence. As you can expect, the Financials section shows a trend very much in play, but we have to address the boogieman first before we can assess Astera’s ability to continue its remarkable growth trajectory.  

UALink versus Ethernet Scale-Up Networking (ESUN) 

UALink is an open-source alternative to proprietary interconnect protocols such as Nvidia’s NVLink. Astera offers a portfolio of UA linked connectivity solutions, including AI fabrics for signaling conditioning and other I/O components. The expectation is that PCIe’s low latency would carry UALink as a solid alternative to Nvidia’s NVLink with proliferation expected around 2027.  

In the past, Astera has counted ten customers as leveraging PCIe in the short term and a combination of PCIe and UALink in the midterm before “transitioning perhaps to a broader UA Link deployment in 2027 and later.” 

The market is concerned because ESUN is now a third viable option and one that comes with a sense of familiarity given its Ethernet based, has large backers and perhaps most importantly – can exceed UALink when it comes to time to market. As you’ve likely picked up on with our energy coverage, time to market is everything right now. The ESUN consortium is banking on Ethernet moving quickly for scale-up networking.  

As it stands now, PCIe is optimized for scale-up networks due to low latency and speed measured in nanoseconds whereas Ethernet is best for scale-out networks. However, ESUN is proposing an Ethernet solution for scale-up with the press release stating: “ESUN is a new workstream collaboration designed as an open technical forum to advance Ethernet in the rapidly growing scale-up domain for AI systems.” 

There are quite a few details to consider in terms of how this plays out, yet the most likely outcome (from where I stand today) is that both are needed. UALink has specific benefits that will be tough for Ethernet to displace. Here is the technical description: “The [UALink] specification enables load, store, and atomic operations between 100s of GPUs while optimizing the protocol stack to minimize end-to-end latency, reducing valuable die area on GPUs and switches, and reducing interconnect and switching power consumption. UALink will support state-of-the-art up to 200Gbps per lane (equivalent to Ethernet) to provide the high bandwidth required between GPUs while also keeping latency in the 100s of nanoseconds (vs. multiple microseconds for Ethernet)” 

It goes back to this last part, which is the 100s of nanoseconds for UALink versus microseconds for Ethernet (as it stands today) that will require a leap in product design and successful deployment in order to displace UALink and the PCIe protocol (where Astera’s solutions fit in). Market participants are doing what many time-strapped investors do – scanning and seeing the large backers for ESUN and assuming it means UALink will not be successful. There is a time to market issue for UALink, yet in the meantime, PCIe remains a strong choice for fast, scale-up systems. PCIe is deployable right now for scale-up pods and CXL is also a strong choice for memory pool connectivity (Astera participates in all of this). 

Quick Takeaway: ESUN is attempting to make Ethernet work for scale-up whereas UALink was built from scratch for scale-up. The primary benefit ESUN offers is to move quicker than UALink (as discussed above, ALAB is saying it’ll be 2027 for UALink to be fully deployed). However, in the meantime, Astera’s PCIe solutions are in high demand and deployable now. Even if ESUN moves faster commercially, there is a performance gap that helps to ensure that Astera’s positioning with PCIe/CXL remains intact. That performance gap is best described as the low latency required for what are the most in-demand AI workloads today – those that require memory pooling and GPU-to-GPU communication.  

Commentary on the Earnings Call regarding UALink and ESUN 

The first question on the call pertained to this concern with an analyst inquiring about any changes in management’s outlook given the recent developments around Ethernet. It’s important to note the analyst acquiesced that it could take 18-24 months for a new protocol to be spec’d out.   

Here is what was stated – providing a longer quote given this topic has caused the stock to selloff twice. 

“We continue to see our market opportunity grow for our scale-up products, particularly this Scorpio X product like you noted. Scale up, as you can imagine, it's a very large market. We estimate it to be in tens of billions of dollars like you correctly noted, some of these design wins take last over multiple generations, simply because of the investment that goes into developing the software and the hardware required for killer topologies.  

For us, if you think about our business today, we are getting ready to ramp into production with our PCIe-based scale-up solutions, it's been extremely popular. There are several customers that are using PCIe like protocols for scale. A new entrant was Qualcomm that publicly announced their new AI 200 inference rack that feature PCIe-based scale-up. For Astera, we have engaged with over 10 AI platform providers. And we expect that these design wins and engagements that we have will continue to ramp.  

In fact, we expect this to go 2029 just based on some of the multi-generation nature of these design wins. For us, UALink is also a very meaningfully additive opportunity as customers start adopting it, just based on the higher data rate support the spec has been around, like you noted, for over a year now in terms of the consortium being formed. The spec is stable, the ecosystem is forming, silicon development is in full gear. And many of these customers, we have currently engaged with RFPs and RFQ. So the momentum is really built up very nicely and continues to grow. So we do expect meaningful revenue from UALink to start coming in 2027.” 

Notably, there is already a hint that UALink could hurry along to become available in H2 2026: “We continue to expect a portfolio of UALink solutions to be available to customers in the second half of 2026 with early revenues generated in 2027.” 

Scorpio P-Series is Ramping Now, and X-Series will Ramp Early 2026 

The more immediate catalyst for Astera as we look toward Q4 and into early 2026 are the Scorpio products, which we’ve covered in the past.  

Scorpio P-Series represents 10% of revenue now, yet management stated it will quickly double to exit the year at 20% of revenue. From there, management has implied Scorpio X will exceed Scorpio P’s revenue percentage. Net-net, that means Scorpio will reach 50% of revenue sometime in H1 2026 up from effectively 0% of revenue in H1 2025. 

Here is a quick refresher on these two solutions: 

The Scorpio P-Series is a small chip that connects the CPU, GPU, NIC and NVMe storage. Rather than building a large switch, the company built a smaller device that is more efficient for high-speed signals to help feed GPUs with data. The fewer ports and smaller switch decrease complexity in a bid to compete against Broadcom with twice the lane count.  

The X-Series is for back-end networking in GPU-to-GPU configurations (and custom silicon configurations), and will offer a higher port count. Astera is essentially building something similar to Nvidia’s NVSwitch with the X-Series, but for PCIe-enabled GPUs and ASICs. Per an earnings call earlier this year: “And this one, like Mike noted, it's a greenfield use case, meaning if you keep Nvidia and NV Switch aside, everyone else is starting to build configurations that are obviously going to need some kind of a switching functionality, which is what we are addressing with our X Series device.”   

The X-Series improves efficiency for ever-increasing AI cluster sizes. The majority of AI clusters are in the tens of thousands GPUs, but are expected to go to the hundreds of thousands (already has with X and some other Big Tech companies), and will see AI clusters with millions of GPUs over the next couple of years.  

In an effort to identify a catalyst that can sustain Astera’s exceptional growth, it would be this product that does so. The X-series is used to interconnect GPUs for higher GPU utilization, resulting in higher ASPs. Per previous commentary: “So to that standpoint, X-Series does bring in a lot more value, and therefore, you can assume that the ASPs tend to be significantly higher. And that's — again, there are different — the X-Series is not one device, to be very clear, there are multiple part numbers. So there would be situations where maybe one part number is not at the same level as P-Series. But in general, you can just look at it from a per lane standpoint or per port standpoint, and look at the value delivered.  And on that basis, the X-Series will always be a much more valuable, much more higher ASP product than a P-Series.” 

Notably, Astera maintains their largest opportunity for the X-Series is on the custom silicon side although they foresee hyperscalers wanting to customize their racks in a way that prevents vendor lock-in from both Nvidia and Broadcom.   

“So these are fabric switches that are used to interconnect multiple accelerators together. So to that standpoint, a, it's not only a significant dollar opportunity because the ASP of this product tends to be high. But these are also products that are turning out to be anchor sockets for us. If you think of an AI rack being built, you have the accelerators and then you have the fabric that interconnects the accelerators.    

So what we are transitioning and what we're excited about is that the Scorpio X device is now translating to be an anchor socket. Think of it as like a mothership around which we are able to now add a lot more products that go along with it, whether it's the silicon level products or module or other form factors that we're considering.” 

The longer refresher on Scorpio P-Series and Scorpio X-Series is necessary because the primary catalyst we identified earlier this year has not even ramped yet. Scorpio P-Series only began shipping this quarter and Scorpio X-Series will begin to ship next year. Here’s the most recent update on when these are shipping: “Scorpio P-Series continued its initial volume ramp at our lead customer, and we are excited that our P-Series revenue will further broaden with recent new design wins across a variety of AI platforms at multiple hyperscaler customers. Scorpio X-Series is shipping in preproduction quantities with a volume ramp expected throughout 2026.” 

Management confirmed they continue to expect a strong ASP uplift for the upcoming Scorpio X-Series ramp in 2026: “Looking ahead, we are gearing up for Scorpio X-Series to shift to high-volume production over the course of 2026. With this ramp of Scorpio X-Series for scale-up connectivity topologies next year, we expect our overall dollar content opportunity per AI accelerator to significantly increase, representing another step-up from a baseline revenue standpoint.” 

To future proof Scorpio solutions, Astera Labs is acquiring xScale Photonics as the market is expected to rely more heavily on photonics (as opposed to copper) a few years from now with management stating: “However, as data rates increase and scale-up domains go beyond 1 rack, clearly, at some point, you will need optical interconnects for scale-up. And there is already a big market for optical interconnects at a data center scale.” The result will be photonic solutions with higher data rates for Astera’s Scorpio solutions. 

Financials 

Revenue Beats by Nearly 12% 

Astera delivered a strong beat on the top line in Q3, with revenue up 103.9% YoY and 20.1% QoQ to $230.6 million, beating the $206.4 million estimate by 11.7%. This maintained Q2’s sequential growth rate of 20%, though YoY decelerated by ~46 points as the company begins to lap tougher comps on a dollar basis. Management said the strong growth was driven by new AI platform ramps featuring multiple products and “robust demand” across its signal conditioning, smart cable module (SCM), and switch fabric portfolios. 

For Q4, Astera guided for $245 million to $253 million in revenue, coming in well ahead of estimates for $216.5 million and pointing to YoY growth of 77% and QoQ growth of 8%, driven by continued PCIe 6 momentum and robust growth from Taurus Ethernet SCMs. This would technically mark the company’s first <100% growth quarter since the end of 2024.  

While Astera did not provide a full-year guide, extrapolating from the midpoint of Q4’s guide projects FY25 revenue at ~$831 million, ahead of estimates for $776 million and corresponding to nearly 110% YoY growth. This will likely force FY26 revenue revisions to move at least $100 million higher from the current $1.04 billion assuming consensus continues to project 34-35% YoY growth. 

GAAP Operating Margin Expands ~32 Points YoY to 24% 

While the revenue beat and raise is certainly welcomed, the improvement in GAAP margins down the line was impressive, with GAAP operating margin expanding to 24%.  

  • GAAP gross margin was 76.2%, ahead of guidance for 75%. This marked a marginal 0.4 point sequential improvement but a 1.5 point YoY contraction. Adjusted gross margin was 76.4%. 
  • GAAP operating margin was 24.0%, well ahead of guidance for 17.9%, and expanding 3.3 points QoQ and nearly 32 points YoY. This YoY expansion from (7.9%) in Q3 ’24 is quite impressive considering the company was reporting triple-digit revenue growth in each quarter; this also reinforces that the company is comfortably GAAP profitable. Adjusted operating margin was 41.7%, up 2.5 points QoQ and 9.3 points YoY. 
  • GAAP net margin was 39.5%, up nearly 13 points QoQ and more than 46 points YoY. Adjusted net margin was 38.3%, down 2.4 points QoQ but up 2.7 points YoY. 

For Q4, Astera guided for slight sequential moderation in margins down the line, with gross margin guidance at 75%, in line with prior quarter guidance. GAAP operating margin was guided to be 22.2% at midpoint, down 1.8 points QoQ but still up more than 22 points YoY. Adjusted operating margin was guided at 39.9%, down 1.8 points QoQ but up 5.6 points YoY. 

GAAP EPS Beats by 92% 

With the strong expansion in GAAP net margin, Astera delivered a 92.3% beat on GAAP EPS, reporting $0.50 in Q3 versus the $0.26 estimate. Adjusted EPS was $0.49, up 113% YoY and solidly ahead of the $0.39 estimate. 

For Q4, Astera guided for $0.20 in GAAP EPS, below the $0.26 estimate due to a 45% income tax rate. Adjusted EPS was guided at $0.51, up 38% YoY. This guidance would bring FY25 GAAP EPS to $1.17 (versus estimates for $0.96) and adjusted EPS to $1.77 (versus estimates for $1.58).  

Cash and Balance Sheet 

Cash flow margins moderated quite sharply on both a QoQ and YoY basis, though cash flow generation remained decently strong with an OCF margin of 33.9%.  

  • Q3 operating cash flow was approximately $78.1 million for a 33.9% margin, down from a 56.2% margin in the year ago quarter and a 70.5% margin in Q2.  
  • Q3 free cash flow was approximately $65.8 million for a 28.5% margin, down from a 41.4% margin in the year ago quarter and 69.5% in Q2. 
  • Cash and equivalents totaled $1.13 billion and debt remained zero. 
  • Accounts receivable were $42.9 million, rebounding from $24.3 million last quarter but remaining lower than the $69.8 million from Q1. Inventories moderated slightly to $51.7 million from $58.6 million in Q2.  

Conclusion: 

We do a lot of checks and balances at the I/O Fund to figure out if a stock is seeing unexpected headwinds. We look for catalysts (Scorpio solutions), we double check our product understanding (PCIe has unique benefits over Ethernet that will be hard to completely displace especially for memory pooling and GPU-to-GPU communication), we do a thorough checklist of the fundamentals with Astera crushing on the top line and even more so on the bottom line.  

To me, ESUN signals that Ethernet vendors are a little afraid of being left out of the scale-up party. The most probable outcome is that both ESUN and UALink coexist to address different layers of an AI cluster and as part of a broader shift away from proprietary networking. Even in a downside scenario where Ethernet moves faster than expected, we probably have an 18-month window before those dynamics materially affect deployments. It won’t be a boring 18 months either, rather it’ll be pretty exciting in terms of the importance of AI networking.  

With that said, Astera is a hypergrowth stock with an AI valuation. We are always prudent with these stocks by following risk management plans. We saw this with Palantir this week, reminding us that price action doesn’t always follow fundamentals in the near term. Our antennas are up, not because of concerns specific to Astera, but because prudent positioning is part of being an investor in high-growth AI names. 

Equity Analyst Damien Robbins contributed to this article.

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TSMC Q4 2024 Earnings: Record Profit Led by Robust AI Demand

Posted on January 16, 2025June 30, 2026 by io-fund

TSMC once again reported strong results led by robust AI chip demand. Q4 revenue grew by 37% YoY and 14.4% QoQ to $26.88 billion, beating the midpoint guide of $26.5 billion. The bottom line was even stronger, as EPS grew by 55.6% YoY to $2.24, beating analysts’ estimates by $0.01. Management also expects 2025 to be a strong year and expects revenue to grow close to mid-20s percent, led by strong AI demand.

Revenue

Q4 revenue grew by 37% YoY and 14.4% QoQ to $26.88 billion, driven by strong AI demand. Revenue came at the higher end of the guidance of $26.1 billion to $26.9 billion, beating the midpoint guide of $26.5 billion.

  • Management guide for the next quarter is $25 billion to $25.8 billion, representing YoY growth of 34.6% and down (-5.5%) QoQ at the midpoint. The sequential decline in the first quarter is due to smartphone seasonality.

“Our business in the fourth quarter was supported by strong demand for our industry-leading 3nm and 5nm technologies,” said Wendell Huang, CFO of TSMC. “Moving into first quarter 2025, we expect our business to be impacted by smartphone seasonality, partially offset by continued growth in AI-related demand.”

  • 2024 revenue grew by 30% YoY to $90 billion, driven by robust AI-related demand. Revenue from AI accelerators, which they define as AI GPU, AI ASICs and HBM controllers for AI training and inference in the data center, accounted for close to mid-teens percent in 2024.
  • AI revenue tripled in 2024 and management expects it to double in 2025, as strong AI-related demand will continue in 2025. For the full year 2025, management expects total revenue to grow close to mid-20s percent in US dollar terms.
  • Management expects AI accelerators to grow mid-40% CAGR for the next five years and expects AI accelerators to be the strongest driver of the HPC platform growth and the largest contributor in terms of the overall incremental revenue growth in the next several years.
  • For the long term, management expects total revenue growth to grow 20% CAGR, driven by growth in all four platforms: smartphone, HPC, IoT, and automotive. 

Margins

Margins continue to expand due to cost controls, higher capacity utilization rates, economies of scale, and better price negotiation with customers.

  • Q4 gross margin was 59%, up from 53% in the same period last year and 57.8% in Q3. The strong gross margin was driven by a higher capacity utilization rate and productivity gains, partially offset by the dilution of 3-nanometer ramp-up.
  • Management has guided gross margin to decrease 100 bps sequentially to 58% at the mid-point, primarily due to ramp-up costs associated with N2 and CoWoS expansion, and the start of dilution from the overseas fabs. However, gross margin is expected to be up from 53.1% in the same period last year.
  • Operating margin improved to 49% from 41.6% in the same period last year and 47.5% in Q3. It beat the midpoint guide of 47.5% driven by operating leverage. Management guide for next quarter is 47.5%, up from 42% in the same period last year.
  • Net income grew by 54.7% YoY to a record $11.6 billion or 43.1% of revenue compared to 38.2% in the same period last year.
  • Return on equity improved to 36.2% from 28.1% in the same period last year.
  • 2024 gross margin improved to 56.1% from 54.4% in 2023, driven by cost controls, improvements in overall capacity utilization, and partially offset by 3-nanometer dilution and higher electricity costs.
  • 2024 operating margin improved to 45.7% from 42.6% in 2023, which was helped by operating leverage.
  • Management expects inflationary cost pressures and higher electricity prices in Taiwan will negatively impact the gross margin by at least 1% in 2025. In addition, the ramp-up costs associated with N2 and further conversion of N5 to N3 capacity will negatively impact the gross margin by about 1%. Also, the overseas fabs are expected to have 2% to 3% margin dilution every year. Management is working with its customers to negotiate better prices to improve the margins; along with it the dilution from the N3 ramp is expected to gradually reduce in 2025 and the overall utilization rate to moderately increase in 2025.
  • Over the long term, management has reiterated that a 53% or higher gross margin is achievable.

EPS

EPS grew by 55.6% YoY to $2.24, beating estimates by $0.01, driven by cost controls, higher capacity utilization rate, and economies of scale.

  • Analysts expect Q1 EPS to grow 49.5% YoY to $2.06 and Q2 EPS to grow 44.6% YoY to $2.14.
  • Looking further out, analysts expect 2025 EPS to grow 32.1% YoY to $9.27 and 16.1% YoY to $10.76 in 2026.

Cash Flows and Balance Sheet

The company’s financial stability is evident in its stable cash flow generation.

  • Q4 operating cash flow was $19.2 billion or 71.4% of revenue compared to 63.1% in the same period last year.
  • Q4 free cash flow was $8.0 billion or 29.8% of revenue compared to $7.05 billion or 35.9% in the same period last year. Capex increased 114.3% YoY to $11.23 billion.
  • The company spent $29.8 billion in capex in 2024, down (-2.3%) YoY. However, due to strong AI demand, capex is expected to increase in 2025 to $38 billion to $42 billion, up 34.4% at the midpoint.
  • Cash and marketable securities were $73.9 billion and debt of $30.1 billion compared to $68.5 billion and $30.6 billion at the end of Q3.

Revenue by Platform

As the leading foundry for AI accelerators, TSMC is riding the enormous wave of demand from Big Tech. The chipmaker’s high-performance computing (HPC) revenues rose 19% QoQ to a record $14.25 billion and accounted for 53% of revenue, surpassing the 50% mark for the third time. Management expects AI accelerators to be the strongest driver of the HPC platform growth in the next several years.

The chart below also shows that HPC revenue reached a record $14.25 billion – its largest sequential increase to date at ~$2.26 billion.

Smartphone grew by 17% sequentially to account for 35% of revenue from 34% of revenue in Q3.

The IoT decreased (-15%) sequentially to account for 5% of revenue. Automotive increased 6% to account for 4% of revenue. Digital Consumer Electronics decreased (-6%) to account for 1% of revenue. Others increased 2% and accounted for 2%.

Revenue by Technology

TSMC’s Advanced nodes are defined as 7-nanometer and below. These nodes accounted for 74% of wafer revenue compared to 69% in Q3.

  • In Q4 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed to 26% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 34% and 14%, respectively.
  • In Q3 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed 20% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 32% and 17%, respectively.

Earnings Call: AI Accelerator Contribution, Margin Headwinds Discussed

TSMC’s management provided optimistic long-term growth and AI revenue forecasts on the earnings call, while also updating on international expansion efforts, some margin headwinds and capex.

Commenting on the broader industry, CEO C.C. Wei said that he expects the foundry industry to  “grow 10% year-over-year in 2025, supported by robust AI-related demand and a mild recovery in other end market segments.” He believes TSMC can once again outperform the industry’s growth due to its broad customer base and technological leadership, forecasting revenue growth in USD close to the mid-20% range. This came in line with some analyst forecasts for 20% to 25% growth in 2025. Management provided some thin details on the segment breakdown for the year, saying that 2025 is “still a mild growth 2026 for PC and smartphone, but everything is AI-related.”

AI accelerators are playing an increasingly large role in TSMC’s long-term growth – TSMC forecast AI accelerator revenue growth at a 40% CAGR from 2024 to 2029, expecting it to be the strongest driver of HPC growth as well as the “largest contributor in terms of our overall incremental revenue growth in the next several years.”

Though margins were arguably very strong in Q4 – gross margin at the high end of the guided range and operating margin above the guided range – management discussed margin headwinds as Q1 is set to see some slight sequential contraction.

Management explained that they have guided Q1 gross margin to decrease 100 bp to 58% at midpoint due to “ramp costs associated with N2 and CoWoS expansion, and the start of dilution from our overseas fabs.” They clarified that these are a few of six significant factors that determine margins: tech development and ramp-up, cost reduction efforts, platform mix, pricing, capacity utilization, and forex.

For the full year, management said there were a few “puts and takes.” One of the primary headwinds includes 2% to 3% dilution impacts from ramping up production at the Arizona and Kumamoto fabs throughout the year, while other headwinds include at least a 1% impact from electricity price hikes in Taiwan, and a 1% impact from retooling from 5nm to 3nm capacity and some additional 2nm ramp. However, offsetting these headwinds are gradual reduction in dilution from the 3nm ramp this year (3nm now accounts for 18% of revenue), and utilization rate moderately increasing in 2025.

Capex was also discussed, with TSMC seeing 2025’s capex slightly ahead of estimates to support demand and capacity expansion plans. For 2024, capex totaled $29.8 billion, with management guiding for capex of $38 billion to $42 billion, or ~34% growth at midpoint; this compares to the $38 to $40 billion estimated by analysts. Of this budget, “about 70% of the capital budget will be allocated for advanced process technologies, about 10% to 20% will be spent for specialty technologies, and about 10% to 20% will be spent for advanced packaging, testing, mask making and others.”

TSMC was rather tight lipped about capacity expansion plans for CoWoS despite multiple analysts asking for more details about its capacity, ramp and revenue contribution. Management simply said that they have “very tight capacity and cannot even meet customers' needs” and they are working “very hard” to increase CoWoS capacity.

On the advanced node front, the 2 nanometer node is “well on track” for volume production in the second half of this year as previously scheduled, with TSMC expecting it to ramp similarly to the 3nm node. However, management added that the tape out in the first two years is expected to be higher than both 3nm and 5nm in their respective ramps due to the strong customer interest and demand for the new node.

Additionally, management shared some updates on international fab expansion, noting that its first fab in Arizona entered high volume production in Q4 with yields comparable to Taiwan. They expect the 4nm node there to ramp smoothly, with construction on the second and third fab in Arizona (set to produce 3nm, 2nm and A16), on track. Japan’s Kumamoto fab began volume production with “record yield”, while the second specialty fab in Japan is expected to break ground this year. TSMC also shared that they are smoothly progressing with plans to build a specialty automotive and industrial-focused fab in Dresden, Germany.

Conclusion

The company’s strong results showed its resilience in capturing the demand for advanced chips due to its technological leadership. Management was optimistic on the long-term forecast for AI revenue growth over the next few years supported by high demand from customers. Strong top-line growth, along with the bottom-line strength, distinguishes TSMC from other companies that are struggling in the current tough macro environment.

 I/O Fund Equity Analysts Royston Roche and Damien Robbins contributed to this article.

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TSMC Q4 2024 Earnings: Record Profit Led by Robust AI Demand

Posted on January 16, 2025June 30, 2026 by io-fund

TSMC once again reported strong results led by robust AI chip demand. Q4 revenue grew by 37% YoY and 14.4% QoQ to $26.88 billion, beating the midpoint guide of $26.5 billion. The bottom line was even stronger, as EPS grew by 55.6% YoY to $2.24, beating analysts’ estimates by $0.01. Management also expects 2025 to be a strong year and expects revenue to grow close to mid-20s percent, led by strong AI demand.

Revenue

Q4 revenue grew by 37% YoY and 14.4% QoQ to $26.88 billion, driven by strong AI demand. Revenue came at the higher end of the guidance of $26.1 billion to $26.9 billion, beating the midpoint guide of $26.5 billion.

  • Management guide for the next quarter is $25 billion to $25.8 billion, representing YoY growth of 34.6% and down (-5.5%) QoQ at the midpoint. The sequential decline in the first quarter is due to smartphone seasonality.

“Our business in the fourth quarter was supported by strong demand for our industry-leading 3nm and 5nm technologies,” said Wendell Huang, CFO of TSMC. “Moving into first quarter 2025, we expect our business to be impacted by smartphone seasonality, partially offset by continued growth in AI-related demand.”

  • 2024 revenue grew by 30% YoY to $90 billion, driven by robust AI-related demand. Revenue from AI accelerators, which they define as AI GPU, AI ASICs and HBM controllers for AI training and inference in the data center, accounted for close to mid-teens percent in 2024.
  • AI revenue tripled in 2024 and management expects it to double in 2025, as strong AI-related demand will continue in 2025. For the full year 2025, management expects total revenue to grow close to mid-20s percent in US dollar terms.
  • Management expects AI accelerators to grow mid-40% CAGR for the next five years and expects AI accelerators to be the strongest driver of the HPC platform growth and the largest contributor in terms of the overall incremental revenue growth in the next several years.
  • For the long term, management expects total revenue growth to grow 20% CAGR, driven by growth in all four platforms: smartphone, HPC, IoT, and automotive. 

Margins

Margins continue to expand due to cost controls, higher capacity utilization rates, economies of scale, and better price negotiation with customers.

  • Q4 gross margin was 59%, up from 53% in the same period last year and 57.8% in Q3. The strong gross margin was driven by a higher capacity utilization rate and productivity gains, partially offset by the dilution of 3-nanometer ramp-up.
  • Management has guided gross margin to decrease 100 bps sequentially to 58% at the mid-point, primarily due to ramp-up costs associated with N2 and CoWoS expansion, and the start of dilution from the overseas fabs. However, gross margin is expected to be up from 53.1% in the same period last year.
  • Operating margin improved to 49% from 41.6% in the same period last year and 47.5% in Q3. It beat the midpoint guide of 47.5% driven by operating leverage. Management guide for next quarter is 47.5%, up from 42% in the same period last year.
  • Net income grew by 54.7% YoY to a record $11.6 billion or 43.1% of revenue compared to 38.2% in the same period last year.
  • Return on equity improved to 36.2% from 28.1% in the same period last year.
  • 2024 gross margin improved to 56.1% from 54.4% in 2023, driven by cost controls, improvements in overall capacity utilization, and partially offset by 3-nanometer dilution and higher electricity costs.
  • 2024 operating margin improved to 45.7% from 42.6% in 2023, which was helped by operating leverage.
  • Management expects inflationary cost pressures and higher electricity prices in Taiwan will negatively impact the gross margin by at least 1% in 2025. In addition, the ramp-up costs associated with N2 and further conversion of N5 to N3 capacity will negatively impact the gross margin by about 1%. Also, the overseas fabs are expected to have 2% to 3% margin dilution every year. Management is working with its customers to negotiate better prices to improve the margins; along with it the dilution from the N3 ramp is expected to gradually reduce in 2025 and the overall utilization rate to moderately increase in 2025.
  • Over the long term, management has reiterated that a 53% or higher gross margin is achievable.

EPS

EPS grew by 55.6% YoY to $2.24, beating estimates by $0.01, driven by cost controls, higher capacity utilization rate, and economies of scale.

  • Analysts expect Q1 EPS to grow 49.5% YoY to $2.06 and Q2 EPS to grow 44.6% YoY to $2.14.
  • Looking further out, analysts expect 2025 EPS to grow 32.1% YoY to $9.27 and 16.1% YoY to $10.76 in 2026.

Cash Flows and Balance Sheet

The company’s financial stability is evident in its stable cash flow generation.

  • Q4 operating cash flow was $19.2 billion or 71.4% of revenue compared to 63.1% in the same period last year.
  • Q4 free cash flow was $8.0 billion or 29.8% of revenue compared to $7.05 billion or 35.9% in the same period last year. Capex increased 114.3% YoY to $11.23 billion.
  • The company spent $29.8 billion in capex in 2024, down (-2.3%) YoY. However, due to strong AI demand, capex is expected to increase in 2025 to $38 billion to $42 billion, up 34.4% at the midpoint.
  • Cash and marketable securities were $73.9 billion and debt of $30.1 billion compared to $68.5 billion and $30.6 billion at the end of Q3.

Revenue by Platform

As the leading foundry for AI accelerators, TSMC is riding the enormous wave of demand from Big Tech. The chipmaker’s high-performance computing (HPC) revenues rose 19% QoQ to a record $14.25 billion and accounted for 53% of revenue, surpassing the 50% mark for the third time. Management expects AI accelerators to be the strongest driver of the HPC platform growth in the next several years.

The chart below also shows that HPC revenue reached a record $14.25 billion – its largest sequential increase to date at ~$2.26 billion.

Smartphone grew by 17% sequentially to account for 35% of revenue from 34% of revenue in Q3.

The IoT decreased (-15%) sequentially to account for 5% of revenue. Automotive increased 6% to account for 4% of revenue. Digital Consumer Electronics decreased (-6%) to account for 1% of revenue. Others increased 2% and accounted for 2%.

Revenue by Technology

TSMC’s Advanced nodes are defined as 7-nanometer and below. These nodes accounted for 74% of wafer revenue compared to 69% in Q3.

  • In Q4 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed to 26% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 34% and 14%, respectively.
  • In Q3 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed 20% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 32% and 17%, respectively.

Earnings Call: AI Accelerator Contribution, Margin Headwinds Discussed

TSMC’s management provided optimistic long-term growth and AI revenue forecasts on the earnings call, while also updating on international expansion efforts, some margin headwinds and capex.

Commenting on the broader industry, CEO C.C. Wei said that he expects the foundry industry to  “grow 10% year-over-year in 2025, supported by robust AI-related demand and a mild recovery in other end market segments.” He believes TSMC can once again outperform the industry’s growth due to its broad customer base and technological leadership, forecasting revenue growth in USD close to the mid-20% range. This came in line with some analyst forecasts for 20% to 25% growth in 2025. Management provided some thin details on the segment breakdown for the year, saying that 2025 is “still a mild growth 2026 for PC and smartphone, but everything is AI-related.”

AI accelerators are playing an increasingly large role in TSMC’s long-term growth – TSMC forecast AI accelerator revenue growth at a 40% CAGR from 2024 to 2029, expecting it to be the strongest driver of HPC growth as well as the “largest contributor in terms of our overall incremental revenue growth in the next several years.”

Though margins were arguably very strong in Q4 – gross margin at the high end of the guided range and operating margin above the guided range – management discussed margin headwinds as Q1 is set to see some slight sequential contraction.

Management explained that they have guided Q1 gross margin to decrease 100 bp to 58% at midpoint due to “ramp costs associated with N2 and CoWoS expansion, and the start of dilution from our overseas fabs.” They clarified that these are a few of six significant factors that determine margins: tech development and ramp-up, cost reduction efforts, platform mix, pricing, capacity utilization, and forex.

For the full year, management said there were a few “puts and takes.” One of the primary headwinds includes 2% to 3% dilution impacts from ramping up production at the Arizona and Kumamoto fabs throughout the year, while other headwinds include at least a 1% impact from electricity price hikes in Taiwan, and a 1% impact from retooling from 5nm to 3nm capacity and some additional 2nm ramp. However, offsetting these headwinds are gradual reduction in dilution from the 3nm ramp this year (3nm now accounts for 18% of revenue), and utilization rate moderately increasing in 2025.

Capex was also discussed, with TSMC seeing 2025’s capex slightly ahead of estimates to support demand and capacity expansion plans. For 2024, capex totaled $29.8 billion, with management guiding for capex of $38 billion to $42 billion, or ~34% growth at midpoint; this compares to the $38 to $40 billion estimated by analysts. Of this budget, “about 70% of the capital budget will be allocated for advanced process technologies, about 10% to 20% will be spent for specialty technologies, and about 10% to 20% will be spent for advanced packaging, testing, mask making and others.”

TSMC was rather tight lipped about capacity expansion plans for CoWoS despite multiple analysts asking for more details about its capacity, ramp and revenue contribution. Management simply said that they have “very tight capacity and cannot even meet customers' needs” and they are working “very hard” to increase CoWoS capacity.

On the advanced node front, the 2 nanometer node is “well on track” for volume production in the second half of this year as previously scheduled, with TSMC expecting it to ramp similarly to the 3nm node. However, management added that the tape out in the first two years is expected to be higher than both 3nm and 5nm in their respective ramps due to the strong customer interest and demand for the new node.

Additionally, management shared some updates on international fab expansion, noting that its first fab in Arizona entered high volume production in Q4 with yields comparable to Taiwan. They expect the 4nm node there to ramp smoothly, with construction on the second and third fab in Arizona (set to produce 3nm, 2nm and A16), on track. Japan’s Kumamoto fab began volume production with “record yield”, while the second specialty fab in Japan is expected to break ground this year. TSMC also shared that they are smoothly progressing with plans to build a specialty automotive and industrial-focused fab in Dresden, Germany.

Conclusion

The company’s strong results showed its resilience in capturing the demand for advanced chips due to its technological leadership. Management was optimistic on the long-term forecast for AI revenue growth over the next few years supported by high demand from customers. Strong top-line growth, along with the bottom-line strength, distinguishes TSMC from other companies that are struggling in the current tough macro environment.

 I/O Fund Equity Analysts Royston Roche and Damien Robbins contributed to this article.

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Coherent: Key Nvidia Supplier for Optical Networking Components

Posted on December 27, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Coherent supplies components for datacom transceivers and for optical interconnects. Transceivers and optical interconnects convert electrical signals into optical signals for fiber optic networks within the data center. Traditionally, optical links have been used for compute and storage servers, yet AI/ML servers are driving an increase in demand for the optical interconnects and transceivers that Coherent supplies.

Transceiver speed has been growing with the highest data rates ranging from 100G to 200G to 400G. AI servers are driving a market for 800G data rates, which are shipping in production now, and 1.6T rates, which are shipping in 2025. We’ve been covering these AI-driven upgrades around optical networking in our Marvell write-up and Semtech write-upwrite-up and Semtech write-up.

Coherent’s transceivers work with both Ethernet or InfiniBand, as well as proprietary protocols such as Nvidia’s NVLink and Nvidia’s interconnect chips NVSwitch. The company has stated that their 100ZR pluggable transceivers can upgrade old 10GBps Ethernet links with 100 GBps at the optical network edge, representing a 10X upgrade.

Coherent designs and manufactures the components, such as lasers, detectors and passive optics. Manufacturing the components (as opposed to buying them) is a strength as the company has supply chain resiliency by controlling the end-to-end process, and the manufacturing takes place primarily in the United States with some in Europe. Notably, the discussion as to where AI chips and their components are manufactured is setting up to become a hot topic come 2025.

Overview of Coherent’s Products:

Last quarter, Coherent’s networking revenue increased 12% sequentially and 61% year-over-year to $763 million. The strong growth was led by the AI-related datacom segment, which grew 16% sequentially and 89% year-over-year. The company has seen strong rebounds in this segment since September of last year, partly due to being a supplier for Nvidia’s NVLink and InfiniBand. Coherent also supplies components for Ethernet networking.

Coherent provides laser technologies for 100-gig to 400-gig, plus the AI-centric 800-gig optics and the AI-centric 1.6T optics. Of these, the 800-gig is the primary interconnect for AI deployments with 1.6T shipping in 2025. Artificial intelligence and machine learning drive demand for the 800-gig PAM to increase the speed of input-output and to process the data flows. This doubles the throughput (bandwidth) due to an 8x100Gpbs optical transceiver for inside and between AI clusters.

Marvell was first to launch the 1.6T solution 5nm and 3nm with 200-gig per lane for both. The highly newly launched 1.6T 3nm optical DSPs will reduce power consumption, something that Blackwell is breaking the upper limits of with an estimated 140kW per rack. Right now, any component that lowers power consumption will be in high demand come Q1-Q2. Coherent is expected to launch their solution next year, per the earnings call: “Having delivered initial samples in the preceding quarter, we continue to expect to begin ramping sales of 1.6T datacom transceivers in calendar 2025.”

Although Marvell and Broadcom are the two that first come to mind when discussing PAM4-based networking and DSPs, it’s important to remember that Nvidia is a leader in AI networking in their own right. Last quarter, Nvidia reported networking revenue of $3.13 billion while Broadcom most recently reported AI revenue of $3.7 billion for the quarter. If we remove the $300 million for custom silicon, Broadcom reported $3.4 billion in AI networking. Nvidia is a newcomer to the field following the acquisition of Mellanox in 2019.

Coherent supplied content is likely to increase with Nvidia as Blackwell is a catalyst for this partnership. With the upcoming release of Blackwell, NVLink speeds will double from the fourth-generation to the fifth-generation. We pointed out a few months back the significance of NVLink’s fifth-generation as it’s the most important generational leap to-date for Nvidia’s networking products:

“NVLink Switch is a major component to the Blackwell upgrade. Fifth-generation NVLink enables multi-GPU communication at high speed, reaching 1.8 TB/s bidirectional throughput or 14X the bandwidth of PCIe for a single GPU.

For the NVL72 systems, NVLink Switch can reach 130 TB/second, which is “more than the aggregate bandwidth of the internet.” Therefore, it’s the compute and the communication capabilities of the upcoming GB200 release that are important to consider. The 72 GPUs in the NVL72 can be used as a single accelerator for 1.4 exaflops of AI compute power.”130 TB/second, which is “more than the aggregate bandwidth of the internet.” Therefore, it’s the compute and the communication capabilities of the upcoming GB200 release that are important to consider. The 72 GPUs in the NVL72 can be used as a single accelerator for 1.4 exaflops of AI compute power.”

The result is that the GB200 will deliver a 30X speedup for 1 trillion­­+ parameter models by leveraging FP4 precision and fifth-generation NVLink. The NVL72 rack-scale systems are exascale computers that will contain up to 5,000 NVLink cables for up to 2 miles of networking.

To put it simply, Nvidia is set to report roughly $200 billion in AI systems revenue next year (we think it’ll be higher than this), with the GB200 systems driving a surge in demand for Nvidia’s in-house networking solutions. There is no other player in the ballpark or zip code of this AI accelerator revenue, and thus, this year will offer a unique opportunity for Nvidia to greatly increase its networking segment driven the scale-out and scale-up of GPUs. That is to say, the 4.5X to 9X increase in systems from 8 GPUs to 36 GPUs or 72 GPUs, plus the scale-out toward clusters with 100,000-GPUs and eventually million-plus GPUs.

Below are a few products that Coherent offers that are set to benefit.

Coherent’s AI-Related Products:

Coherent has a highly technical suite of hardware products. To streamline the discussion, I’ll focus on the three product lines that management calls out as major contributors to the rebound in its AI-related datacom segment (part of the larger networking segment).

  • Next-generation transceiver technologies, such as VCSELs, EMLs and CW lasers for silicon photonics – reported in the networking segment
  • Datacom optical switch platform – reported in the datacom segment
  • Data center interconnects (DCIs) – not part of the AI segment, rather this is reported in the telecom segment.

Next-Generation Transceivers:

Last quarter, Coherent’s networking revenue increased 12% sequentially and 61% year-over-year to $763 million.

VCSELs: >100 meters Distance:

Vertical Cavity Surfacing Emitting Lasers (VCSELs) are for link distances of less than 100 meters. As Coherent explains, these are the lowest-cost, lowest power consumption solution. In March, the company announced its 200G VCSELs that replace the oxide-aperture with a lithographic-aperture. When combined with a DSP, the 200G VCSELs allow for a 1.6T multimode optical transceiver for AI, high-performance computing (HPC) and networking applications.

Silicon Photonics >100m: Nvidia to Launch SiPho Product H2 2025

For distances greater than 100m, silicon photonics-based transceivers are used. We wrote about silicon photonics previously before Nvidia Hopper had shipped in volume. Back in early 2023, an article from Next Platform discussed the previous generation of GPUs, where the NVSwitch fabric on the DGX-A100 systems has “a range of about 300 centimeters and moves data at 8 picojoules per bit. The goal is silicon photonics to do it at half the energy and boost the range to as far as 100 meters between devices.”

Coherent recently announced a continuous wave (CW) InP laser for silicon photonics that “are on the forward edge of data transmission technology, crucially addressing the explosive bandwidth demands brought on by the rapid adoption of machine learning networks within AI-driven data centers.” According to the press release, Coherent’s CW lasers will result in 15% better power efficiency and are more reliable due to eliminating aluminum.

The first CW laser to launch was in September of 2024 with a higher-power laser for cooled operations launching in 2025. The press release cited that production capacity is expanding 500% over the next two years: “And with our upcoming expansion to a state-of-the-art 6-inch InP fab in Sherman, Texas, by 2026, we expect production capacity to be 5x our current production rate, a significant ramp given the complexity of this material.”

At the end of September, Coherent demonstrated a new 1.6T-DR8 transceiver module running a 5nm Nvidia chip. The SiPho product, or silicon photonics product, will read and write data at the speed of 1.6Tbps. The initial reaction from analysts is that this product will become more impactful at the end of 2025, taking up to 10% to 20% of the market in 2026, pointing toward Nvidia customers Microsoft, Coreweave and Lambda as being names that would drive the sales come 2026.

EML Lasers:

Electro-absorption modulated lasers (EMLs) help to enable the 200G per lane transmission, which is enabling the 1.6TBps data rate. In the future, it is likely AI networking will expand to a 3.2TBps data rate. The EML device that Coherent supplies offers signal integrity for 200G optical transmission due to the wide bandwidth of the modulator and on-chip integrated radio frequency (RF) termination.

EMLs were traditionally used by telecom customers, yet became attractive for AI servers due to meeting the 200G per second speeds necessary to support AI models and capabilities for 1.6T optical modules. EMLs are more expensive than CW lasers for silicon photonics, with 1.6T SiPho being the more popular choice. Where four EML lasers are required to run 1.6T, two less-expensive CW lasers are needed to run four channels with a silicon photonics module.

Coherent’s press releases point toward EML lasers becoming more impactful with the push toward reading and writing data at 3.2TB per second speeds.

When asked on the call which product will be most influential at 1.6TB ramps, Coherent’s management was declined to state it would be primarily SiPho, rather stating it would be a mix of all three:

Q: “[…] And then if you think that the world is kind of ramping on 1.6T, do you guys see kind of more of a silicon photonics world or an EML world as that 1.6T ramp?”

A: “[…] We look at it as we'll deploy whatever the best technology is for the benefit of the customer and the application that we're trying to drive. So, whether that's an EML, a VCSEl, or silicon photonics, we're developing all of those different options and we'll deploy whatever technology is strongest to create the biggest differentiation for our products and the biggest benefit for our customers. So, that's kind of the approach that we take to the technology. And I think we've got the broadest set of technology options of certainly any of our peers and competitors. So, I think that's a real competitive strength for us.”

Datacom Optical Switch Platform (OCS Switch):

Optical current switches are a new kind of switch for AI clusters that handles the switching optically instead of using transceivers to convert photons to electrons, and back again. According to the earnings call, “Our differentiated switch is based on our highly reliable solid-state liquid crystal technology and was recognized at ECOC '24 with the Best Product Award for data center innovation. We've shipped sample units to key strategic customers and we expect to begin ramping revenue in calendar 2025.”

According to a Dell’Oro analyst, optical switches are a new kind of switch that offers high bandwidth, low latency and are less expensive to operate. Per Coherent: “this kind of optical switching tends to be more reliable – something that will pay dividends in very larger clusters in which mean time to failure tends to be quite low.”

At Hot Chips 2023, Google’s TPU group technical lead, Andy Swing, explained that Google has been able to “switch together very large quantities of AI accelerators” in pods with 64 TPUs. According to Google, the optical circuit switch results in a sizable boost in network bandwidth and can be reconfigured if a node fails. It doesn’t take much imagination to consider other hyperscalers are likely to follow in Google’s footsteps by using an OCS switch as cluster sizes for AI accelerators are set to increase. 

Datacom Interconnects (DCIs):

For long distance transmission, Coherent offers data center interconnects (DCIs). This can range up to hundreds of kilometers. There was a recent press announcement that Marvell, Lumentum and Coherent worked on optical modules with transmission links of up to 500km.

DCIs are recognized under the telecom segment, which saw growth of 9% sequentially and 17% year-over-year. Within this, management stated: “We are definitely seeing strong demand signals in DCI, right? And obviously, that's only a portion of the telecom market, but we are seeing very strong demand signals there.”

Financials:

Coherent’s Q1 FY2025 revenue grew by 28% YoY to $1.35 billion, beating estimates by 2.4%. Revenue accelerated by 18.9 percentage points from the 9.1% growth reported in the June quarter. The strong growth was primarily led by AI-related datacom revenue, which grew 16% sequentially and 89% YoY.

Management has guided FQ2 revenue of $1.37 billion, representing 21.1% YoY growth at the midpoint. Analysts expect growth to sustain 15.6% YoY growth to $1.40 billion in FQ3.

Looking further out, analysts expect FY2025 ending in June revenue to grow 17.9% YoY to $5.55 billion and 11.2% YoY to $6.17 billion in FY2026.

Revenue by End Market:

Communications

Communications end market FQ1 revenue grew by 68% YoY and 14% sequential growth to $774 million. It is the largest end market and constitutes 57.4% of total revenue. Revenue accelerated by 49 percentage points from 19% growth in FQ4. The strong growth was led by datacom and telecom revenue.

FQ1 datacom revenue grew by 89% YoY and 16% sequentially due to strong AI data center demand. The company witnessed a continued ramp for 800-G transceivers, benefitting from the increased number of customers ramping 800-G transceivers. Management expects strong growth in 800-G transceivers to continue in the coming quarter with revenue from 1.6T transceivers starting to ramp in CY2025. The company delivered initial samples of 1.6T transceivers in FQ4.

Telecom revenue grew by 17% YoY and 9% sequentially, primarily due to end market improvement and the ramp of the company’s new products, namely 100G ZR and 400G ZR+ Coherent transceivers. Although management expects the telecom end market to remain weak in the near term, they expect a ramp in revenue from these new products over FY2025. Overall, they expect the communications market to be a long-term growth driver for the company.

Industrial

The industrial end market is the second largest end market and constitutes 30.2% of revenue. The industrial end market grew by 1% YoY and down (-6%) QoQ to $407 million. Revenue decelerated from 5% growth in FQ4 as the strength in display capital equipment was offset by the weakness in the precision manufacturing. The company faced demand headwinds in the precision manufacturing, mirroring broader industry trends. However, despite the near-term weakness, management “expects the industrial market to be a long-term growth driver for the company as the end markets recover and as our new products continue to ramp.”

Instrumentation

The Instrumentation end market constitutes only a small 6.8% of total revenue. FQ1 revenue was down (-8%) YoY and (-10%) sequentially to $91 million.

Electronics

The Electronics end market also constitutes only a small 5.6% of total revenue. FQ1 revenue was down (-16%) YoY and (-27%) QoQ to $76 million.

Segments

  • Networking FQ1 revenue reported strong growth of 61% YoY and 12% sequentially to $763 million due to the AI data center demand. Revenue accelerated from 16% growth in FQ4.
  • Lasers segment revenue increased 4% YoY and down (-2%) QoQ to $348 million. Revenue decelerated from 7% growth in FQ4.
  • Materials segment FQ1 revenue was down (-3%) YoY and (-15%) QoQ to $237 million.

Margins

Margins are expanding yet they remain low compared to other semiconductor companies, and this will remain a predominant concern with Coherent. Management has set a goal of achieving a consistent adjusted gross margin level of above 40% and has two important initiatives: pricing optimization in the industrial business (includes industrial end market, instrumentation, and electronics) and product cost reductions for the datacom transceiver business.

Per the earnings call:

“[…] And I do see opportunity to do a much better job of optimizing the pricing of the [industrial] products and capturing what I would say — what I would call is the fair value for the technology and the innovation that we're bringing to those industrial markets.

Now, in pricing in the datacom transceiver space, there I think there's, I would say, there's not as much opportunity on the pricing side. But what I would say is, but there's definitely opportunity on the product cost side. And that's one of the examples I gave earlier on the call is on product costs within transceivers. And I highlighted, I believe this on the last earnings call, yields as definitely an opportunity. And Sherri and I, as I said earlier, we're in an operational review this morning, spending time talking to the team about yields, the improvements that they've driven over the past few months, and what we need to see in terms of yield improvements moving forward as well. And that is definitely an area of focus for us. So, I would — back to your datacom transceiver question in particular, I would say maybe not so much on pricing, but definitely there's opportunity for us in cost and we're certainly very focused on that.”

  • FQ1 gross margin improved five percentage points YoY to 34.1%. Adjusted gross margin improved 2.9 percentage points YoY to 37.7%, primarily helped by higher revenue, favorable product mix, and yield improvements.
  • Management has guided for an adjusted gross margin of 37% at the midpoint for FQ2 compared to 36% in the same period last year. The CFO provided more clarity during the earnings call Q&A on the gross margins and assured to provide more details before the Investor Day in May 2025 on its plan to achieve the long-term goal of above 40% gross margins.

“When we look at Q2, the guide for Q2, that is a range, right, 36% to 38%, it is a range, and there can certainly be fluctuation on a quarterly basis with respect to gross margin. But we did talk about, last quarter; Jim mentioned that we launched our gross margin expansion strategy which includes product pricing optimization, as well as product cost reduction. And so that's an area where we're going to focus on because we want to achieve a long-term gross margin of greater than 40%, and so that's really how to think about what our goal is for our long-term gross margin.”

  • FQ1 operating margin improved significantly to 5.6% from (-2%) in the same period last year. Adjusted operating margin improved 4.7 percentage points YoY to 17.3%. Management guide for the next quarter is 16.2%. Even though the guide is down sequentially, it is up from 15.2% in the same period last year.
  • The operating margin is expected to improve along with the gross margins in the long term. The company is prioritizing its R&D investments in the growth areas and divesting non-profitable businesses. Another key takeaway from the earnings call is the CEO’s comment, “I just want to reiterate what I said in the prepared remarks that even though the overall non-strategic category is a relatively small part of our revenue, again, it is dilutive to our operating margins.”
  • Net income was $25.9 million or 1.9% of revenue compared to a net loss of (-$67.5) million or (-6.4%) of revenue in the same period last year. Adjusted net income was $149.7 million or 11.1% of revenue compared to $55 million or 5.2% of revenue in the same period last year.

EPS

Coherent has strong EPS growth. Analysts expect EPS growth to continue going forward, and there is potential for further upgrades to the EPS estimates due to the new CEO’s streamlining/restructuring plan.

  • FQ1 adjusted EPS grew by 357% YoY to $0.74, primarily helped by operating leverage, favorable product mix, improvement in yield, product price optimization, and product cost reductions.
  • Analysts expect adjusted EPS to grow 86.3% YoY to $0.67 and 43.2% YoY to $0.76 in the subsequent two quarters.
  • Looking further out, analysts expect the adjusted EPS for FY2025 ending June to grow 80.5% YoY to $3.01 and 45.1% YoY to $4.37 for FY2026.
  • Jefferies analyst believes that the new CEO’s streamlining and cost reduction initiatives could potentially double the adjusted EPS from the current about $3.0 to as much as $6.40 annual EPS in 2026.

Cash Flow and Balance Sheet: 2.4X Debt Leverage

Operating cash flow margins have been hovering around 10% of revenue and are expected to improve with higher revenue and profits in the coming quarters.

  • FQ1 operating cash flow was $152.98 million or 11.4% of revenue compared to 18.9% in the same period last year. The operating cash flow margin was in line with the full year operating cash flow margin of 11.6% for FY2024 and 12.3% for FY2023.
  • FQ1 free cash flow was $61 million or 4.5% of revenue compared to 13% in the same period last year. The free cash flow margin was in line with the full year free cash flow margin of 4.2% for FY2024 and 3.8% for FY2023.
  • Cash was $1.02 billion; debt was $3.99 billion compared to $926 million and $4.1 billion at the end of FQ4.
  • During FQ1, the company repaid $118 million in debt from the cash from operations and proceeds from the sale of the Newton Aycliffe fabrication facility. The sale is part of the company’s ongoing efforts to streamline operations.
  • With the $118 million debt repayment, the company has reduced the debt leverage ratio to 2.4x, and debt reduction will continue to be the priority for the management.

Divestment

The company is looking to divest or shut down non-strategic product lines and assets. The company recently sold the Newton Aycliffe fabrication facility in the UK. The proceeds from the sale of the facility were used to repay debt and will also help to reduce the overhead expenses and interest expenses.

Similarly, it is looking for strategic alternatives for the battery technology business. Although the business accounts for a small percentage of revenue, it is dilutive to the company’s margins. It will allow the company to focus on investments that have better returns on investments, such as the AI data center transceiver business. The management is expected to provide more updates in the coming months and during the Investor Day in May 2025. The company might also divest the silicon carbide business, in which Denso and Mitsubishi Electric have a 25% non-controlling stake.

New Management from Lattice Semiconductor:

Jim Anderson was appointed CEO of Coherent Corp. and a member of the Board of Directors on June 3, 2024. He previously served as CEO of Lattice Semiconductor Corporation since September 2018. Prior to joining Lattice, Mr. Anderson served as the Senior Vice President and General Manager of the Computing and Graphics Business Group at AMD.

Jim, who is credited for bringing about a turnaround in Lattice Semiconductor, is also expected to repeat his success at Coherent along with the new CFO Sherri Luther. The company appointed Sherri Luther as CFO on Oct 11, 2024. Prior to that, she was the CFO of Lattice Semiconductor since 2019. Prior to joining Lattice in 2019, she worked at Coherent for 16 years, including as Corporate Vice President of Finance.

Commentary from FQ1 2025 Earnings Call:

800-Gig drove the Revenue Beat, 1.6T Shipping in 2025:

There were questions as to where the upside from the quarter came from, given the top line and sizable 20%+ bottom-line beat. As noted, there was sizable growth in the datacom transceiver business of 16% QoQ growth and 89% YoY growth. The CEO points out customer breadth is expanding on the 800G product.

Q: Simon Leopold, Raymond James: “[…] And I guess what I'm trying to understand is where was the, really, upside surprise this quarter, was it really 800 gig and above or was there more strength from the more traditional products below — 400-gig and below, did that provide any upside or was it all coming from the higher performance? Thank you.”

A: Jim Anderson, CEO: “We did see sequential growth there [400-gig and under speeds]. That was very nice to see. When you look across the customer base, customers are at different stages of adopting the different transceiver speeds. So, we still have customers that are doing significant volume on 400G and below as well. And so, it's really a mix of different transceiver speeds.

And then, back on 800-gig, I would say, look, we're really pleased with the ramp, the overall ramp of our 800-gig transceivers. And then, the other color I would add is that one of the things I'm really pleased to see is the breadth of customers that we have. The number of customers that are ramping 800-gig has significantly increased. If I look like a year ago, it was only maybe a couple customers. Now, we have many customers ramping 800-gig. So, there's a much bigger diversity of revenue streams underneath that 800-gig ramp. And we do expect 800-gig to continue to grow over the coming quarters as well.”

Although the customer breadth has grown with 800-gig, it was stated on the call the 1.6T will launch with a customer breadth that is smaller and matches the start of the 800-gig.

Supply Constraints Could be a Catalyst for Coherent:

There were three questions on the call from three separate analysts about potential supply constraint in lasers, with two analysts calling out the supply constraint being specifically with EMLs: “certainly on the EML side as we're hearing about constraints, et cetera, as you think about '25 and '26?”

The CEO pointed out this is an area incremental strength for Coherent as they make most of their parts internally (which is quite rare) yet will source when the demand requires it. The CEO also pointed out their breadth of technologies helps to meet demand if there were to be a shortage in a specific laser, such as EML.

Here are a few statements from the CEO that addressed Coherent having an advantage by building their own products in a fairly crowded market of networking components:

“On that first area of technology roadmap, I think our customers really recognize the breadth and the depth of the technology portfolio that we can bring to bear, specially in the optical networking space, where we don't just assemble the modules, but we build a lot of the ingredient components that go into the module; the lasers, whether they're VCSELs, EMLs for silicon photonics that we design, or a lot of the other ingredients that go into those modules […] and then, our verticalized structure could be a real advantage, especially in a very fast ramp situation, which we're in right now with our datacenter customers. When demand is increasing very quickly, it's really important to have that verticalized strategy and structure that we have, because I think that's really allowed us to supply them in a really reliable.”

This statement was reiterated a few times, which is that Coherent’s advantage lies within the breadth of the technologies they offer alongside the capability to build internally.

United States Domiciled:

The discussions around supply constraints potentially helping Coherent as the company builds its own products are further supported by the fact Coherent components are primarily manufactured in the United States, with some in Europe. The company has plans to expand its presence in the United States with a 6-inch InP wafer fab in Sherman Texas. According to an announcement last week, Coherent was awarded $33 million from the United States CHIPS act to support the expansion of the Texas facility.

Competitors:

According to the 10-K, the company “had one customer who contributed more than 10% of revenue during fiscal 2024.” This is understood to be Nvidia. Yet, B.Riley downgraded the stock due to Nvidia seeking more suppliers for the 1.6T products, with the analyst note naming Eoptolink, Innolight and Fabrinet as notable competitors.

Conclusion:

If you had “reading about AI networking components” on your Christmas list, then consider yourself in luck. The I/O Fund is leaving no stone unturned in delivering a full hardware stack analysis on what’s to come in 2025 as AI systems increase in complexity. Although we saw some outliers in AI software this year, we continue to foresee 2025 to be the year for AI hardware – far more so previous years. This goes back to how the Blackwell systems are being built, by scaling out 4-9X, and also requiring new components to handle the surge in AI server power consumption.

Of course, with every great opportunity, there comes some element of risk. The clear risk to semiconductors are tariffs with rumors that Chinese tariffs could be as high as 60% on imports from this region.  This would technically be a tailwind for Coherent — a key Nvidia supplier as we go into 2025 that would not only circumvent the majority of tariffs but potentially come out on top.

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Coherent: Key Nvidia Supplier for Optical Networking Components

Posted on December 27, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Coherent supplies components for datacom transceivers and for optical interconnects. Transceivers and optical interconnects convert electrical signals into optical signals for fiber optic networks within the data center. Traditionally, optical links have been used for compute and storage servers, yet AI/ML servers are driving an increase in demand for the optical interconnects and transceivers that Coherent supplies.

Transceiver speed has been growing with the highest data rates ranging from 100G to 200G to 400G. AI servers are driving a market for 800G data rates, which are shipping in production now, and 1.6T rates, which are shipping in 2025. We’ve been covering these AI-driven upgrades around optical networking in our Marvell write-up and Semtech write-upwrite-up and Semtech write-up.

Coherent’s transceivers work with both Ethernet or InfiniBand, as well as proprietary protocols such as Nvidia’s NVLink and Nvidia’s interconnect chips NVSwitch. The company has stated that their 100ZR pluggable transceivers can upgrade old 10GBps Ethernet links with 100 GBps at the optical network edge, representing a 10X upgrade.

Coherent designs and manufactures the components, such as lasers, detectors and passive optics. Manufacturing the components (as opposed to buying them) is a strength as the company has supply chain resiliency by controlling the end-to-end process, and the manufacturing takes place primarily in the United States with some in Europe. Notably, the discussion as to where AI chips and their components are manufactured is setting up to become a hot topic come 2025.

Overview of Coherent’s Products:

Last quarter, Coherent’s networking revenue increased 12% sequentially and 61% year-over-year to $763 million. The strong growth was led by the AI-related datacom segment, which grew 16% sequentially and 89% year-over-year. The company has seen strong rebounds in this segment since September of last year, partly due to being a supplier for Nvidia’s NVLink and InfiniBand. Coherent also supplies components for Ethernet networking.

Coherent provides laser technologies for 100-gig to 400-gig, plus the AI-centric 800-gig optics and the AI-centric 1.6T optics. Of these, the 800-gig is the primary interconnect for AI deployments with 1.6T shipping in 2025. Artificial intelligence and machine learning drive demand for the 800-gig PAM to increase the speed of input-output and to process the data flows. This doubles the throughput (bandwidth) due to an 8x100Gpbs optical transceiver for inside and between AI clusters.

Marvell was first to launch the 1.6T solution 5nm and 3nm with 200-gig per lane for both. The highly newly launched 1.6T 3nm optical DSPs will reduce power consumption, something that Blackwell is breaking the upper limits of with an estimated 140kW per rack. Right now, any component that lowers power consumption will be in high demand come Q1-Q2. Coherent is expected to launch their solution next year, per the earnings call: “Having delivered initial samples in the preceding quarter, we continue to expect to begin ramping sales of 1.6T datacom transceivers in calendar 2025.”

Although Marvell and Broadcom are the two that first come to mind when discussing PAM4-based networking and DSPs, it’s important to remember that Nvidia is a leader in AI networking in their own right. Last quarter, Nvidia reported networking revenue of $3.13 billion while Broadcom most recently reported AI revenue of $3.7 billion for the quarter. If we remove the $300 million for custom silicon, Broadcom reported $3.4 billion in AI networking. Nvidia is a newcomer to the field following the acquisition of Mellanox in 2019.

Coherent supplied content is likely to increase with Nvidia as Blackwell is a catalyst for this partnership. With the upcoming release of Blackwell, NVLink speeds will double from the fourth-generation to the fifth-generation. We pointed out a few months back the significance of NVLink’s fifth-generation as it’s the most important generational leap to-date for Nvidia’s networking products:

“NVLink Switch is a major component to the Blackwell upgrade. Fifth-generation NVLink enables multi-GPU communication at high speed, reaching 1.8 TB/s bidirectional throughput or 14X the bandwidth of PCIe for a single GPU.

For the NVL72 systems, NVLink Switch can reach 130 TB/second, which is “more than the aggregate bandwidth of the internet.” Therefore, it’s the compute and the communication capabilities of the upcoming GB200 release that are important to consider. The 72 GPUs in the NVL72 can be used as a single accelerator for 1.4 exaflops of AI compute power.”130 TB/second, which is “more than the aggregate bandwidth of the internet.” Therefore, it’s the compute and the communication capabilities of the upcoming GB200 release that are important to consider. The 72 GPUs in the NVL72 can be used as a single accelerator for 1.4 exaflops of AI compute power.”

The result is that the GB200 will deliver a 30X speedup for 1 trillion­­+ parameter models by leveraging FP4 precision and fifth-generation NVLink. The NVL72 rack-scale systems are exascale computers that will contain up to 5,000 NVLink cables for up to 2 miles of networking.

To put it simply, Nvidia is set to report roughly $200 billion in AI systems revenue next year (we think it’ll be higher than this), with the GB200 systems driving a surge in demand for Nvidia’s in-house networking solutions. There is no other player in the ballpark or zip code of this AI accelerator revenue, and thus, this year will offer a unique opportunity for Nvidia to greatly increase its networking segment driven the scale-out and scale-up of GPUs. That is to say, the 4.5X to 9X increase in systems from 8 GPUs to 36 GPUs or 72 GPUs, plus the scale-out toward clusters with 100,000-GPUs and eventually million-plus GPUs.

Below are a few products that Coherent offers that are set to benefit.

Coherent’s AI-Related Products:

Coherent has a highly technical suite of hardware products. To streamline the discussion, I’ll focus on the three product lines that management calls out as major contributors to the rebound in its AI-related datacom segment (part of the larger networking segment).

  • Next-generation transceiver technologies, such as VCSELs, EMLs and CW lasers for silicon photonics – reported in the networking segment
  • Datacom optical switch platform – reported in the datacom segment
  • Data center interconnects (DCIs) – not part of the AI segment, rather this is reported in the telecom segment.

Next-Generation Transceivers:

Last quarter, Coherent’s networking revenue increased 12% sequentially and 61% year-over-year to $763 million.

VCSELs: >100 meters Distance:

Vertical Cavity Surfacing Emitting Lasers (VCSELs) are for link distances of less than 100 meters. As Coherent explains, these are the lowest-cost, lowest power consumption solution. In March, the company announced its 200G VCSELs that replace the oxide-aperture with a lithographic-aperture. When combined with a DSP, the 200G VCSELs allow for a 1.6T multimode optical transceiver for AI, high-performance computing (HPC) and networking applications.

Silicon Photonics >100m: Nvidia to Launch SiPho Product H2 2025

For distances greater than 100m, silicon photonics-based transceivers are used. We wrote about silicon photonics previously before Nvidia Hopper had shipped in volume. Back in early 2023, an article from Next Platform discussed the previous generation of GPUs, where the NVSwitch fabric on the DGX-A100 systems has “a range of about 300 centimeters and moves data at 8 picojoules per bit. The goal is silicon photonics to do it at half the energy and boost the range to as far as 100 meters between devices.”

Coherent recently announced a continuous wave (CW) InP laser for silicon photonics that “are on the forward edge of data transmission technology, crucially addressing the explosive bandwidth demands brought on by the rapid adoption of machine learning networks within AI-driven data centers.” According to the press release, Coherent’s CW lasers will result in 15% better power efficiency and are more reliable due to eliminating aluminum.

The first CW laser to launch was in September of 2024 with a higher-power laser for cooled operations launching in 2025. The press release cited that production capacity is expanding 500% over the next two years: “And with our upcoming expansion to a state-of-the-art 6-inch InP fab in Sherman, Texas, by 2026, we expect production capacity to be 5x our current production rate, a significant ramp given the complexity of this material.”

At the end of September, Coherent demonstrated a new 1.6T-DR8 transceiver module running a 5nm Nvidia chip. The SiPho product, or silicon photonics product, will read and write data at the speed of 1.6Tbps. The initial reaction from analysts is that this product will become more impactful at the end of 2025, taking up to 10% to 20% of the market in 2026, pointing toward Nvidia customers Microsoft, Coreweave and Lambda as being names that would drive the sales come 2026.

EML Lasers:

Electro-absorption modulated lasers (EMLs) help to enable the 200G per lane transmission, which is enabling the 1.6TBps data rate. In the future, it is likely AI networking will expand to a 3.2TBps data rate. The EML device that Coherent supplies offers signal integrity for 200G optical transmission due to the wide bandwidth of the modulator and on-chip integrated radio frequency (RF) termination.

EMLs were traditionally used by telecom customers, yet became attractive for AI servers due to meeting the 200G per second speeds necessary to support AI models and capabilities for 1.6T optical modules. EMLs are more expensive than CW lasers for silicon photonics, with 1.6T SiPho being the more popular choice. Where four EML lasers are required to run 1.6T, two less-expensive CW lasers are needed to run four channels with a silicon photonics module.

Coherent’s press releases point toward EML lasers becoming more impactful with the push toward reading and writing data at 3.2TB per second speeds.

When asked on the call which product will be most influential at 1.6TB ramps, Coherent’s management was declined to state it would be primarily SiPho, rather stating it would be a mix of all three:

Q: “[…] And then if you think that the world is kind of ramping on 1.6T, do you guys see kind of more of a silicon photonics world or an EML world as that 1.6T ramp?”

A: “[…] We look at it as we'll deploy whatever the best technology is for the benefit of the customer and the application that we're trying to drive. So, whether that's an EML, a VCSEl, or silicon photonics, we're developing all of those different options and we'll deploy whatever technology is strongest to create the biggest differentiation for our products and the biggest benefit for our customers. So, that's kind of the approach that we take to the technology. And I think we've got the broadest set of technology options of certainly any of our peers and competitors. So, I think that's a real competitive strength for us.”

Datacom Optical Switch Platform (OCS Switch):

Optical current switches are a new kind of switch for AI clusters that handles the switching optically instead of using transceivers to convert photons to electrons, and back again. According to the earnings call, “Our differentiated switch is based on our highly reliable solid-state liquid crystal technology and was recognized at ECOC '24 with the Best Product Award for data center innovation. We've shipped sample units to key strategic customers and we expect to begin ramping revenue in calendar 2025.”

According to a Dell’Oro analyst, optical switches are a new kind of switch that offers high bandwidth, low latency and are less expensive to operate. Per Coherent: “this kind of optical switching tends to be more reliable – something that will pay dividends in very larger clusters in which mean time to failure tends to be quite low.”

At Hot Chips 2023, Google’s TPU group technical lead, Andy Swing, explained that Google has been able to “switch together very large quantities of AI accelerators” in pods with 64 TPUs. According to Google, the optical circuit switch results in a sizable boost in network bandwidth and can be reconfigured if a node fails. It doesn’t take much imagination to consider other hyperscalers are likely to follow in Google’s footsteps by using an OCS switch as cluster sizes for AI accelerators are set to increase. 

Datacom Interconnects (DCIs):

For long distance transmission, Coherent offers data center interconnects (DCIs). This can range up to hundreds of kilometers. There was a recent press announcement that Marvell, Lumentum and Coherent worked on optical modules with transmission links of up to 500km.

DCIs are recognized under the telecom segment, which saw growth of 9% sequentially and 17% year-over-year. Within this, management stated: “We are definitely seeing strong demand signals in DCI, right? And obviously, that's only a portion of the telecom market, but we are seeing very strong demand signals there.”

Financials:

Coherent’s Q1 FY2025 revenue grew by 28% YoY to $1.35 billion, beating estimates by 2.4%. Revenue accelerated by 18.9 percentage points from the 9.1% growth reported in the June quarter. The strong growth was primarily led by AI-related datacom revenue, which grew 16% sequentially and 89% YoY.

Management has guided FQ2 revenue of $1.37 billion, representing 21.1% YoY growth at the midpoint. Analysts expect growth to sustain 15.6% YoY growth to $1.40 billion in FQ3.

Looking further out, analysts expect FY2025 ending in June revenue to grow 17.9% YoY to $5.55 billion and 11.2% YoY to $6.17 billion in FY2026.

Revenue by End Market:

Communications

Communications end market FQ1 revenue grew by 68% YoY and 14% sequential growth to $774 million. It is the largest end market and constitutes 57.4% of total revenue. Revenue accelerated by 49 percentage points from 19% growth in FQ4. The strong growth was led by datacom and telecom revenue.

FQ1 datacom revenue grew by 89% YoY and 16% sequentially due to strong AI data center demand. The company witnessed a continued ramp for 800-G transceivers, benefitting from the increased number of customers ramping 800-G transceivers. Management expects strong growth in 800-G transceivers to continue in the coming quarter with revenue from 1.6T transceivers starting to ramp in CY2025. The company delivered initial samples of 1.6T transceivers in FQ4.

Telecom revenue grew by 17% YoY and 9% sequentially, primarily due to end market improvement and the ramp of the company’s new products, namely 100G ZR and 400G ZR+ Coherent transceivers. Although management expects the telecom end market to remain weak in the near term, they expect a ramp in revenue from these new products over FY2025. Overall, they expect the communications market to be a long-term growth driver for the company.

Industrial

The industrial end market is the second largest end market and constitutes 30.2% of revenue. The industrial end market grew by 1% YoY and down (-6%) QoQ to $407 million. Revenue decelerated from 5% growth in FQ4 as the strength in display capital equipment was offset by the weakness in the precision manufacturing. The company faced demand headwinds in the precision manufacturing, mirroring broader industry trends. However, despite the near-term weakness, management “expects the industrial market to be a long-term growth driver for the company as the end markets recover and as our new products continue to ramp.”

Instrumentation

The Instrumentation end market constitutes only a small 6.8% of total revenue. FQ1 revenue was down (-8%) YoY and (-10%) sequentially to $91 million.

Electronics

The Electronics end market also constitutes only a small 5.6% of total revenue. FQ1 revenue was down (-16%) YoY and (-27%) QoQ to $76 million.

Segments

  • Networking FQ1 revenue reported strong growth of 61% YoY and 12% sequentially to $763 million due to the AI data center demand. Revenue accelerated from 16% growth in FQ4.
  • Lasers segment revenue increased 4% YoY and down (-2%) QoQ to $348 million. Revenue decelerated from 7% growth in FQ4.
  • Materials segment FQ1 revenue was down (-3%) YoY and (-15%) QoQ to $237 million.

Margins

Margins are expanding yet they remain low compared to other semiconductor companies, and this will remain a predominant concern with Coherent. Management has set a goal of achieving a consistent adjusted gross margin level of above 40% and has two important initiatives: pricing optimization in the industrial business (includes industrial end market, instrumentation, and electronics) and product cost reductions for the datacom transceiver business.

Per the earnings call:

“[…] And I do see opportunity to do a much better job of optimizing the pricing of the [industrial] products and capturing what I would say — what I would call is the fair value for the technology and the innovation that we're bringing to those industrial markets.

Now, in pricing in the datacom transceiver space, there I think there's, I would say, there's not as much opportunity on the pricing side. But what I would say is, but there's definitely opportunity on the product cost side. And that's one of the examples I gave earlier on the call is on product costs within transceivers. And I highlighted, I believe this on the last earnings call, yields as definitely an opportunity. And Sherri and I, as I said earlier, we're in an operational review this morning, spending time talking to the team about yields, the improvements that they've driven over the past few months, and what we need to see in terms of yield improvements moving forward as well. And that is definitely an area of focus for us. So, I would — back to your datacom transceiver question in particular, I would say maybe not so much on pricing, but definitely there's opportunity for us in cost and we're certainly very focused on that.”

  • FQ1 gross margin improved five percentage points YoY to 34.1%. Adjusted gross margin improved 2.9 percentage points YoY to 37.7%, primarily helped by higher revenue, favorable product mix, and yield improvements.
  • Management has guided for an adjusted gross margin of 37% at the midpoint for FQ2 compared to 36% in the same period last year. The CFO provided more clarity during the earnings call Q&A on the gross margins and assured to provide more details before the Investor Day in May 2025 on its plan to achieve the long-term goal of above 40% gross margins.

“When we look at Q2, the guide for Q2, that is a range, right, 36% to 38%, it is a range, and there can certainly be fluctuation on a quarterly basis with respect to gross margin. But we did talk about, last quarter; Jim mentioned that we launched our gross margin expansion strategy which includes product pricing optimization, as well as product cost reduction. And so that's an area where we're going to focus on because we want to achieve a long-term gross margin of greater than 40%, and so that's really how to think about what our goal is for our long-term gross margin.”

  • FQ1 operating margin improved significantly to 5.6% from (-2%) in the same period last year. Adjusted operating margin improved 4.7 percentage points YoY to 17.3%. Management guide for the next quarter is 16.2%. Even though the guide is down sequentially, it is up from 15.2% in the same period last year.
  • The operating margin is expected to improve along with the gross margins in the long term. The company is prioritizing its R&D investments in the growth areas and divesting non-profitable businesses. Another key takeaway from the earnings call is the CEO’s comment, “I just want to reiterate what I said in the prepared remarks that even though the overall non-strategic category is a relatively small part of our revenue, again, it is dilutive to our operating margins.”
  • Net income was $25.9 million or 1.9% of revenue compared to a net loss of (-$67.5) million or (-6.4%) of revenue in the same period last year. Adjusted net income was $149.7 million or 11.1% of revenue compared to $55 million or 5.2% of revenue in the same period last year.

EPS

Coherent has strong EPS growth. Analysts expect EPS growth to continue going forward, and there is potential for further upgrades to the EPS estimates due to the new CEO’s streamlining/restructuring plan.

  • FQ1 adjusted EPS grew by 357% YoY to $0.74, primarily helped by operating leverage, favorable product mix, improvement in yield, product price optimization, and product cost reductions.
  • Analysts expect adjusted EPS to grow 86.3% YoY to $0.67 and 43.2% YoY to $0.76 in the subsequent two quarters.
  • Looking further out, analysts expect the adjusted EPS for FY2025 ending June to grow 80.5% YoY to $3.01 and 45.1% YoY to $4.37 for FY2026.
  • Jefferies analyst believes that the new CEO’s streamlining and cost reduction initiatives could potentially double the adjusted EPS from the current about $3.0 to as much as $6.40 annual EPS in 2026.

Cash Flow and Balance Sheet: 2.4X Debt Leverage

Operating cash flow margins have been hovering around 10% of revenue and are expected to improve with higher revenue and profits in the coming quarters.

  • FQ1 operating cash flow was $152.98 million or 11.4% of revenue compared to 18.9% in the same period last year. The operating cash flow margin was in line with the full year operating cash flow margin of 11.6% for FY2024 and 12.3% for FY2023.
  • FQ1 free cash flow was $61 million or 4.5% of revenue compared to 13% in the same period last year. The free cash flow margin was in line with the full year free cash flow margin of 4.2% for FY2024 and 3.8% for FY2023.
  • Cash was $1.02 billion; debt was $3.99 billion compared to $926 million and $4.1 billion at the end of FQ4.
  • During FQ1, the company repaid $118 million in debt from the cash from operations and proceeds from the sale of the Newton Aycliffe fabrication facility. The sale is part of the company’s ongoing efforts to streamline operations.
  • With the $118 million debt repayment, the company has reduced the debt leverage ratio to 2.4x, and debt reduction will continue to be the priority for the management.

Divestment

The company is looking to divest or shut down non-strategic product lines and assets. The company recently sold the Newton Aycliffe fabrication facility in the UK. The proceeds from the sale of the facility were used to repay debt and will also help to reduce the overhead expenses and interest expenses.

Similarly, it is looking for strategic alternatives for the battery technology business. Although the business accounts for a small percentage of revenue, it is dilutive to the company’s margins. It will allow the company to focus on investments that have better returns on investments, such as the AI data center transceiver business. The management is expected to provide more updates in the coming months and during the Investor Day in May 2025. The company might also divest the silicon carbide business, in which Denso and Mitsubishi Electric have a 25% non-controlling stake.

New Management from Lattice Semiconductor:

Jim Anderson was appointed CEO of Coherent Corp. and a member of the Board of Directors on June 3, 2024. He previously served as CEO of Lattice Semiconductor Corporation since September 2018. Prior to joining Lattice, Mr. Anderson served as the Senior Vice President and General Manager of the Computing and Graphics Business Group at AMD.

Jim, who is credited for bringing about a turnaround in Lattice Semiconductor, is also expected to repeat his success at Coherent along with the new CFO Sherri Luther. The company appointed Sherri Luther as CFO on Oct 11, 2024. Prior to that, she was the CFO of Lattice Semiconductor since 2019. Prior to joining Lattice in 2019, she worked at Coherent for 16 years, including as Corporate Vice President of Finance.

Commentary from FQ1 2025 Earnings Call:

800-Gig drove the Revenue Beat, 1.6T Shipping in 2025:

There were questions as to where the upside from the quarter came from, given the top line and sizable 20%+ bottom-line beat. As noted, there was sizable growth in the datacom transceiver business of 16% QoQ growth and 89% YoY growth. The CEO points out customer breadth is expanding on the 800G product.

Q: Simon Leopold, Raymond James: “[…] And I guess what I'm trying to understand is where was the, really, upside surprise this quarter, was it really 800 gig and above or was there more strength from the more traditional products below — 400-gig and below, did that provide any upside or was it all coming from the higher performance? Thank you.”

A: Jim Anderson, CEO: “We did see sequential growth there [400-gig and under speeds]. That was very nice to see. When you look across the customer base, customers are at different stages of adopting the different transceiver speeds. So, we still have customers that are doing significant volume on 400G and below as well. And so, it's really a mix of different transceiver speeds.

And then, back on 800-gig, I would say, look, we're really pleased with the ramp, the overall ramp of our 800-gig transceivers. And then, the other color I would add is that one of the things I'm really pleased to see is the breadth of customers that we have. The number of customers that are ramping 800-gig has significantly increased. If I look like a year ago, it was only maybe a couple customers. Now, we have many customers ramping 800-gig. So, there's a much bigger diversity of revenue streams underneath that 800-gig ramp. And we do expect 800-gig to continue to grow over the coming quarters as well.”

Although the customer breadth has grown with 800-gig, it was stated on the call the 1.6T will launch with a customer breadth that is smaller and matches the start of the 800-gig.

Supply Constraints Could be a Catalyst for Coherent:

There were three questions on the call from three separate analysts about potential supply constraint in lasers, with two analysts calling out the supply constraint being specifically with EMLs: “certainly on the EML side as we're hearing about constraints, et cetera, as you think about '25 and '26?”

The CEO pointed out this is an area incremental strength for Coherent as they make most of their parts internally (which is quite rare) yet will source when the demand requires it. The CEO also pointed out their breadth of technologies helps to meet demand if there were to be a shortage in a specific laser, such as EML.

Here are a few statements from the CEO that addressed Coherent having an advantage by building their own products in a fairly crowded market of networking components:

“On that first area of technology roadmap, I think our customers really recognize the breadth and the depth of the technology portfolio that we can bring to bear, specially in the optical networking space, where we don't just assemble the modules, but we build a lot of the ingredient components that go into the module; the lasers, whether they're VCSELs, EMLs for silicon photonics that we design, or a lot of the other ingredients that go into those modules […] and then, our verticalized structure could be a real advantage, especially in a very fast ramp situation, which we're in right now with our datacenter customers. When demand is increasing very quickly, it's really important to have that verticalized strategy and structure that we have, because I think that's really allowed us to supply them in a really reliable.”

This statement was reiterated a few times, which is that Coherent’s advantage lies within the breadth of the technologies they offer alongside the capability to build internally.

United States Domiciled:

The discussions around supply constraints potentially helping Coherent as the company builds its own products are further supported by the fact Coherent components are primarily manufactured in the United States, with some in Europe. The company has plans to expand its presence in the United States with a 6-inch InP wafer fab in Sherman Texas. According to an announcement last week, Coherent was awarded $33 million from the United States CHIPS act to support the expansion of the Texas facility.

Competitors:

According to the 10-K, the company “had one customer who contributed more than 10% of revenue during fiscal 2024.” This is understood to be Nvidia. Yet, B.Riley downgraded the stock due to Nvidia seeking more suppliers for the 1.6T products, with the analyst note naming Eoptolink, Innolight and Fabrinet as notable competitors.

Conclusion:

If you had “reading about AI networking components” on your Christmas list, then consider yourself in luck. The I/O Fund is leaving no stone unturned in delivering a full hardware stack analysis on what’s to come in 2025 as AI systems increase in complexity. Although we saw some outliers in AI software this year, we continue to foresee 2025 to be the year for AI hardware – far more so previous years. This goes back to how the Blackwell systems are being built, by scaling out 4-9X, and also requiring new components to handle the surge in AI server power consumption.

Of course, with every great opportunity, there comes some element of risk. The clear risk to semiconductors are tariffs with rumors that Chinese tariffs could be as high as 60% on imports from this region.  This would technically be a tailwind for Coherent — a key Nvidia supplier as we go into 2025 that would not only circumvent the majority of tariffs but potentially come out on top.

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TSMC Q3 2024 Earnings: Strong results led by AI demand

Posted on October 17, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund

TSMC Q3 results beat across the board, helped by strong demand for AI chips. Revenue grew 36% YoY to $23.5 billion and beat the management guide of $22.4 billion to $23.2 billion. The bottom line was even stronger, as EPS grew by 50.4% YoY to $1.94, beating analysts’ estimates by 8.6%. Management also raised the full-year revenue guidance from above mid-20% to close to 30%, primarily due to the robust demand for AI chips.

Revenue

Q3 revenue grew by 36% YoY and 12.9% QoQ to $23.5 billion, beating the management guide of $22.4 billion to $23.2 billion. The strong revenue growth was primarily helped by demand for AI and smartphone chips.

  • Management guide for the next quarter is $26.1 billion to $26.9 billion, representing a YoY growth of 35.1% and 12.8% sequential growth at the mid-point.
  • Management raised the full-year revenue guidance from above mid-20% to close to 30%. By calculating the Q4 guide, the FY 2024 revenue is expected to grow 29.4% YoY to $89.69 billion in US dollar terms.

C.C. Wei, Vice Chairman and CEO, said in the earnings call, “Moving into fourth quarter, we expect our business to continue to be supported by strong demand for our leading-edge process technologies. We continue to observe extremely robust AI-related demand from our customers throughout the second half of 2024, leading to increasing overall capacity utilization rate for our leading-edge 3-nanometer and 5-nanometer process technologies.”

Due to the technological leadership, the company is able to capture robust demand for the most advanced AI chips. The revenue contribution from server AI processors is expected to triple this year and will account for a mid-teens percentage of 2024 revenue. “At TSMC, we define server AI processor as GPUs, AI accelerators, and CPUs performing training and inference functions, and do not include networking, edge, or on-device AI. We now forecast the revenue contribution from server AI processors to more than triple this year and account for mid-teens percentage of our total revenue in 2024. Supported by our technology leadership and broader customer base, we are well-positioned to capture the industry's growth opportunities. We now forecast our full-year revenue to increase by close to 30% in U.S. dollar terms.”

Margins

Margins continue to expand due to cost controls, economies of scale, and better price negotiation with customers.

  • Q3 gross margin was 57.8%, up from 54.3% in the same period last year and 53.2% in Q2. It beat the management guide of 53.5% to 55.5%. The strong gross margin was due to better capacity utilization and cost improvements.
  • Management has guided Q4 gross margin to increase 20 basis points sequentially to 58% at the midpoint helped by higher capacity utilization, partially offset by dilution from N3 ramp, higher electricity prices in Taiwan, and N5 to N3 tool conversion cost.
  • Operating margin improved to 47.5% from 41.7% in the same period last year and 42.5% in Q2 due to operating leverage. Management guide for Q4 is 47.5% at the midpoint.
  • Net income grew by 52.4% YoY to $10.06 billion or 42.8% of revenue compared to 38.6% in the same period last year and 36.8% in Q2.

EPS

EPS grew by 50.4% YoY to $1.94, beating analysts’ estimates by 8.6% due to better capacity utilization, cost improvement and operating leverage.

  • Analysts expect Q4 EPS to grow 35.4% YoY to $1.95 and 26.1% YoY to $1.74 in Q1 2025.
  • EPS is expected to grow significantly. Analysts expect EPS to grow 26.8% YoY to $6.57 in 2024 and 29.2% YoY to $8.49 in 2025.

Cash Flows and Balance Sheet

The company’s financial stability is evident in its stable cash flow generation.

  • Q3 operating cash flow was $12.13 billion or 51.6% of revenue compared to $9.31 billion or 54% of revenue in the same period last year and 56.1% in Q2.
  • Free cash flow grew by 166% YoY to $5.72 billion or 24.4% of revenue compared to 12% of revenue in the same period last year and 25.5% of revenue in Q2. Capex was down (-9.9%) YoY to $6.4 billion.
  • Management expects capex to be slightly higher than $30 billion for 2024, revised down slightly from the previous guide of $30 billion to $32 billion. As the company continues to invest due to the expected strong AI growth, capex is likely to increase next year, and management mentioned that they will provide more details during the January earnings call.
  • Inventories were $9.26 billion compared to $8.39 billion in Q2. Inventory turnover days increased to 87 days from 83 days in Q2 due to the pre-build of N3 and N5 wafers.
  • Cash and marketable securities were $68.5 billion, and debt of $30.6 billion, compared to $63.05 billion and $30.4 billion in Q2.

Revenue by Platform

As the leading foundry for AI accelerators, TSMC is riding the enormous wave of demand from Big Tech. The chipmaker’s high-performance computing (HPC) revenues rose 11% QoQ to $11.99 billion and accounted for 51% of revenue, surpassing the 50% mark for the second time.

The chart below also shows that HPC revenue reached a record $11.99 billion in Q3.

Smartphone grew by 16% sequentially and accounted for 34% of revenue from 33% of revenue in Q2.

Internet of Things revenue grew by 35% sequentially and accounted for 7% of revenue.

Automotive revenue grew by 6% sequentially and accounted for 5% of revenue. Digital Consumer Electronics decreased by 19% and accounted for 1% of revenue; others grew by 8% to account for 2% of revenue.

Revenue by Technology

The Advanced nodes are defined as 7-nanometer and below. It accounted for 69% of wafer revenue in Q3 compared to 67% in Q2.

  • In Q3 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed 20% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 32% and 17%, respectively.
  • In Q2 2024, 3-nanometer process technology contributed 15% of wafer revenue, while 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer accounted for 35% and 17%, respectively.

Earnings Call

 “AI Demand is Real”

The management clarified in the earnings call to allay fears about the AI opportunity, stating that the demand is real and the return on investment from AI is high.

Question

Gokul Hariharan (Analyst)

“My first question is on the AI investments and the growth that you see. Recently, obviously, there's been a lot of questions about ROI of Gen AI investments, whether this could end up being a bubble. How does TSMC view this trend as you're making your capacity plans given you are enabling pretty much the processing capacity for pretty much everybody?”

Answer

C. C. Wei (Executive)

“Okay Gokul, let me answer your question. Simply, whether this AI demand is real or not, okay? And my judgement is real. We have talked to our customer all the time, including our hyperscaler customers who are building their own chips. And almost every AI innovator is working with TSMC. And so we probably get the deepest and widest look of anyone in this industry.

And why I say it's real, because we have our real experience. We have using the AI and machine learning in our fab and R&D operations. By using AI, we are able to create more value by driving greater productivity, efficiency, speed, qualities.

And think about it, let me use you know 1% productivity gain, that was almost equal to about 1 billion to TSMC. And this is a tangible ROI benefit. And I believe we cannot be the only one company that has benefited from this AI application. So I believe a lot of companies right now are using AI for their own improving productivity, efficiency, everything. So I think it's real.”

PC and Smartphone demand

The management expects healthy growth in the PC and Smartphone demand due to the increasing content due to AI.

Krish Sankar (Analyst)

“Yes, hi. Thanks for taking my question. The first one I had was, I'm kind of curious on the non-AI demand. How do you look at your wafer demand for PC and mobile into calendar ‘25, and have you seen any meaningful revision upwards or downwards on that?

C. C. Wei (Executive)

Okay, Krish. The unique growth of PC and smartphone is still in a low single digit, but the more important is the content. The content now we put more AI into their chip, and so the silicon area increase faster than the unique growth. So again, I would like to say that for this PC and smartphone business, not only — is gradually increased, and we expect it to be healthy in the next few years because of AI-related applications.”

Advanced Packaging

Advanced Packaging demand is strong and will account for high single-digit of revenue this year.

Krish Sankar (Analyst)

“How do you think about that advanced packaging revenue growth over the next few years, and do you think at some point in the next couple of years, advanced packaging can reach corporate-level growth margins, or would it always be below that?

Wendell Huang (Executive)

Yes, Krish, advanced packaging in the next several years, let's say five years, will be growing faster than the corporate average. This year, it accounts for about high single-digit of our revenue. In terms of margins, yes, it is also improving. However, it's still approaching corporate, but not there yet.

 

Rick Hsu (Analyst)

All right. Thank you so much. A little question as a follow up, the second one. Can you share with us your CoWoS capacity buildup for this year and next year? I know you guys seem to have revised it up several times, so can you share the latest one?

C. C. Wei (Executive)

Okay, Rick. In fact, we are putting a lot of effort to increase the capacity of the CoWoS. Roughly, let me share with you, today's situation is our customers' demand far exceeds our ability to supply. So even we work very hard and increase the capacity by about more than twice, more than two times as this year compared with last year, and probably double again, but still not enough. But anyway, we are working very hard to meet the customers' requirement.”

Conclusion

The company beat across the board and showed its resilience in capturing the demand for advanced chips due to its technological leadership. The top-line growth, along with the bottom-line strength, distinguishes TSMC from other companies that are struggling in the current tough macro environment. The company is the denominator to the biggest AI winners as it supplies to Nvidia, Apple, AMD, Marvell, Intel, and Qualcomm. We look forward to adding this stock to our portfolio.

  

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Royston Roche, Equity Analyst at the I/O Fund, contributed to this article.

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Micron FQ4 Earnings Preview: Attractive Valuation, Look for Non AI-Related Weakness

Posted on September 24, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Micron will release tomorrow with management expecting revenue to grow 89.5% YoY to $7.6 billion at the midpoint, an 8-point acceleration from last quarter. The stock is up 10% YTD at the time of writing, below the 80% returns in mid-June. The stock has given up much of its gains due to the potential fears of a temporary slowdown in the non-high-bandwidth memory market and concerns that Micron’s upside is limited due to contracted pricing for the next 6-8 quarters. We covered this here stating: “The blemish in the report is the commentary that HBM is sold out for calendar 2024 and 2025, with “pricing already contracted for the overwhelming majority of our 2025 supply.”

The slowdown in non-HBM memory is expected to be from smartphone and PC customers who “have built some inventory,” according to comments from Micron’s management team at the Deutsche Bank conference in late August. Taken out of context, it could be a dire comment yet the overall tone was bullish, citing the increase in non-HBM inventory is to protect smartphone and PC OEMs from higher pricing and tighter supply due to the outsized demand for AI-related HBM. Essentially, the message is that AI-related HBM is going to crowd out non-HBM in the supply chain.

The not-so-bullish commentary from the DB conference is more economic related as Micron stated: “We have shared before and as is well known in the broad industry reports that consumer retail channels, industrial, automotive tend to be relatively weaker right now, as well as China has some weakness too.” China is important to Micron making up 25% of its revenue. The company had stated earlier at a Keybanc conference: “In China, economic activity and consumer buying patterns are weak or uneven at best, depends on the market.”

Previous commentary in the earnings call and also during Keybanc’s conference hint that Micron is expecting several hundred million of HBM revenue in fiscal ’24, multibillion HBM revenue in fiscal 2025 and “have HBM consistent with our DRAM share at some point in calendar '25.” However, the discussions regarding Q1 in the DB conference were a lackluster, stating: “So when we look at all of these factors and all of these trends, when we look at our FQ1 we think our bit shipments will be somewhat flattish to slightly up in FQ1 versus FQ4.” This has caused some analysts to downgrade the stock as the expectation is non-HBM is weighing on HBM if we will see bit shipments “only slightly up.”

When the analysts downgraded the stock, some of them cited an oversupply of HBM. We see no evidence of an oversupply of HBM, and in fact, Micron has stated the opposite, stating they are seeing “robust demand trends” and “these trends of AI and the tight supply environment we see that continuing in 2025 as well. And that's why we say that, we will have substantial revenue record in 2025, and of course, robust profitability in 2025 as well versus 2024.”

We will see if Micron’s call has any changes in tone on HBM-related inventory; it’ll be important to carefully distinguish what is causing the underperformance on bit shipments as Micron is trading at an attractive valuation – nearly 50% lower than its historic average.

The trim today is not Micron-specific rather Knox has not been liking SMH’s recent price action. We are sending a clear message to our members that we aren’t buyers of AI semis at this moment as we think there will be opportunities to buy lower. We aren’t heavy sellers either, although we have a strategy where this could be the outcome over the next 30-60 days. Real wealth is made during drawdowns, not by perfectly timing a top. We’ve covered this extensively in our webinars and have a thought leadership article on the free side coming out by Knox next week on the topic, as well.

Revenue:

FQ4 revenue is expected to accelerate to 90.5% YoY growth to $7.64 billion and decelerate to 75% growth to $8.27 billion in Q1 FY2025.

Last quarter, revenue grew by 81.5% YoY to $6.81 billion, up from 57.7% in FQ2 due to strong AI demand. The company reported a record high data center revenue mix with 50% sequential data center revenue growth.

  • DRAM revenue grew by 13% QoQ to $4.7 billion, helped by about a 20% price increase and offset by a decline in bit shipments in the mid-single digits.
  • NAND revenue grew by 32% QoQ to $2.1 billion, helped by an increase in bit shipments in the high single digits and a price increase of about 20%. Management expects DRAM shipments to be flattish and NAND shipments to increase slightly in FQ4.
  • Analysts expect FY2024 revenue to grow 63.3% YoY to $25.37 billion.
  • FY2025 revenue is expected to grow 50.2% YoY to $38.10 billion and 16.3% to $44.30 billion in FY2026.

Margins

Margins experienced a steep cyclical low and now appears to have bottomed. In FQ2, the company achieved its goal of positive adjusted operating margin a quarter ahead of expectations, primarily helped by the recovery in DRAM and NAND pricing.

Management expects gross margin expansion to continue, helped by price and also higher-value products like HBM, high-capacity DIMMs (dual in-line memory modules), and SSDs. The guide for FQ4 is 34.5%.

Management reiterated the sequential improvement in adjusted gross margin for the November quarter as they said in the KeyBanc forum, “On gross margin, sequentially August to November quarter, we expect gross margins to be up around 200 — or up around a couple of hundred basis points, consistent with what we've said before.”

  • FQ3 gross margin was 26.9%, up from (-17.8%) in the same period last year and 18.5% in FQ2. Management guide for FQ4 is 33.5%. The adjusted gross margin was 28.1%, up from (-16.1%) in the same period last year and 20% in FQ2.

The improvement in gross margin was due to higher pricing, product mix, and cost reductions.

  • Operating margin was 10.6%, up from (-46.9%) in the same period last year and 3.3% in FQ2. Management guide for FQ4 is 17.8%. Adjusted operating margin was 13.8%, up from (-39.2%) in the same period last year and 3.5% in FQ2.

Management guide for FQ4 is 20.6%. The operating expenses were at the lower end of the guidance due to cost controls and operational efficiencies. Management expects operating expenses to increase sequentially in FQ4 “due to an increase in R&D program expenses and a nonrecurring Q3 asset sale gain contemplated in our Q3 guidance.”

  • Net income was $332 million or 4.9% of revenue compared to a net loss of (-$1.9 billion) or (-50.5%) of revenue in the same period last year. Adjusted net income was $702 million or 10.3% of revenue compared to an adjusted net loss of (-$1.57 billion) or (-41.7%) of revenue in the same period last year.

EPS 

FQ3 GAAP EPS came at $0.30 and beat estimates by 1.2%. Adjusted EPS was $0.62, up from an adjusted loss per share of (-$1.43) in the same period last year. The company beat adjusted EPS estimates by 17.3%, which was helped by higher prices, higher margin product mix, and cost controls.

  • EPS guide for FQ4 is $0.61 at the midpoint and the adjusted EPS guide of $1.08 at the midpoint. Analysts expect adjusted EPS of $1.11 for FQ4 and $1.59 for FQ1.
  • Analysts expect FY2024 adjusted EPS of $1.23, up from an adjusted loss per share of (-$4.45) for the FY2023.
  • For FY2025 they expect adjusted EPS to grow 636% YoY to $9.04 and 34.5% YoY to $12.16 for FY2026.

Cash Flow and Balance Sheet

 FQ3’s operating cash flow was $2.48 billion or 36.4% of revenue compared to $24 million or 0.60% of revenue in the same period last year and 20.9% of revenue in FQ2. The cash flows have improved with higher revenue and profitability.

FQ3 adjusted free cash flow was $425 million or 6.2% of revenue compared to (-$1.36B) or (-36.1%) of revenue in the same period last year and (-$29 million) or (-0.50%) of revenue in FQ2. Capex was $2.1 billion in FQ3 compared to $1.4 billion in the same period last year and $1.2 billion in FQ2.

Management expects positive adjusted free cash flow in FQ4 despite a capex of about $3.0 billion. Capex would be $8.0 billion in FY2024, up from $7.0 billion in FY2023.

Management expects capex to rise around 35% of FY2025 revenue, i.e., comes to about $13 billion and the company is able to support it due to higher profitability. Mark Murphy, CFO, said in the FQ3 earnings call, “Record revenue and significantly improved profitability in fiscal 2025 will help support average quarterly CapEx in fiscal 2025 to be meaningfully above the fiscal Q4 2024 level of $3 billion. We expect CapEx around mid-30%s range of revenue for fiscal 2025, which will support HBM assembly and test equipment, fab and back-end facility construction, as well as technology transition investment to support demand growth.

As noted earlier, half or more of the expected CapEx increase in fiscal 2025 will be to support U.S. greenfield fab construction. As we have noted in the past, the CHIPS grants, ITC, and state incentives offset a significant portion of the U.S. fab CapEx investments.”

  • Inventory was $8.5 billion or 155 days compared to $8.4 billion or 160 days of inventory in FQ2. Management expects days of inventory to decline in FY2025. (This also runs counter to what some analysts downgrades are stating, which is there’s an oversupply when management comments point to the opposite).
  • Cash and investments were $9.22 billion and debt of $13.258 billion compared to $9.7 billion and $13.7 billion in FQ2. In FQ3, the company repaid $650 million in debt and paid $128 million in dividends. The company had also announced in early August that they might resume the stock repurchase program.

Business Units

Compute and Networking Business Unit (CNBU) grew by 18% QoQ and 85% YoY to $2.57 billion. This was an acceleration from 59% in FQ2.

DRAM data center revenue more than doubled year-over-year. We foresee this segment being strong yet there could be potential weakness in client-related compute.

Mobile Business Unit (MBU) grew by 94% YoY and down (-1%) sequentially to $1.59 billion due to a planned volume decline, which was partially offset by improved pricing. Look for potential weakness here given comments that the oversupply maybe coming from mobile and PCs.

Embedded Business Unit (EBU) grew by 42% YoY and 16% sequentially to $1.29 billion helped by record revenue in automotive. Look for weakness here given commentary about automotive, industrial and consumer-related end markets.

Storage Business Unit (SBU) revenue grew by 116% YoY and 50% sequentially to $1.35 billion with growth in all end markets. The company achieved record data center SSD revenue, which nearly doubled sequentially. There could be potential weakness in the client storage segment depending on PC demand.

Other noteworthy points to watch

HBM Revenue

The company reported HBM revenue of over $100 million in FQ3 and expects to generate several hundreds in FY2024 and multiple billions in FY2025. They also expect the HBM market share to match the overall DRAM market share sometime in CY2025, which they mention is in the low 20s. UBS expects HBM revenue to be $5.61 billion in FY2025 from the expected $603 million in FY2024.expects HBM revenue to be $5.61 billion in FY2025 from the expected $603 million in FY2024. Management said HBM revenue is accretive to FQ3 margins and expects this trend to continue.

HBM and NAND CAGRs

HBM’s bit growth CAGR is expected to remain strong and be above 50% for the next few years.

“Well, as we have said before, that we see the CAGR for HBM growth — in terms of bit growth CAGR to be well above 50% over the next few years. So certainly, HBM is a strong growth driver. And again, as we increase our mix of HBM going forward, it will, of course, be continuing to be accretive to our financial performance, including margins. And we are pleased that with the strong performance that we have we are sold out for '25 as well with overwhelming part of our output already committed in terms of pricing.”

During the Q&A, it was pointed out that the forecast for NAND CAGR growth was lowered from “the low 20s” to a new forecast of “growth in the high teens.” Management’s response was the following:

“And I'll also tell you that we basically revise the base here for the CAGR that we used. So this time, the CAGR that we used, we use the base year of 2023. And in 2023, as you know, we had bit demand growth in NAND that was higher, meaningfully higher than the CAGR. So that, of course, the larger base of 2023, just somewhat changed our outlook on the overall CAGR.”

AI PCs and Smartphones

The company expects to benefit from the AI PCs and smartphones. They expect AI PCs to have 40% to 80% more DRAM content than today’s PCs. Similarly, smartphones that are AI enabled will have about 50% to 100% more content compared to phones released last year. In the near-term, management has stated there could be an oversupply. We expect there to be more questions on the call about this comment from the DB conference. “PC and smartphone customers have built additional inventories due to the rising price trajectory, the anticipated growth in AI PCs and AI smartphones, as well as the expectation of tight supply as an increasing portion of DRAM and NAND output is dedicated to meeting growing data center demand.” There are additional China-related concerns for mobile and PCs.

Valuation 

On the top line, Micron is trading above it’s historic valuation at 4.85 compared to its five-year P/S ratio is 3.58. Notably, since the FY ends in August, the P/S ratio will be adjusted post-results and is trading at a 2.7 forward PS. The forward PS is the one that will reflect the valuation post-results.

On the bottom line, the forward PE Ratio of 10.5 will take effect post-results and is about 20% to 30% lower than the 3-year and 5-year median. These valuations are tricky because AI stocks are being re-rated. For example, Nvidia and AMD are trading about 50% lower than their averages, and yet are struggling to breakout. We think it’s important to weigh what the stocks have been trading at since the AI boom, or about early 2023. Micron has been trading considerably higher since the AI boom and we continue to watch the stock for the right entry over the next few months.

Conclusion

Micron is setting up to be an excellent buy over the next few months, yet we continue to watch the horizon to buy AI stocks at lower prices. Micron is perhaps the more complicated AI semi to time as it’s trading at an attractive valuation yet it’s also a bellwether of sorts for the economy. There could be a scenario where any AI bullishness is overshadowed by consumer-facing segments. Notably, the margins are expected to continue improving in FY2025 and we foresee Micron being more defensible than others when it comes to economic headwinds, albeit less defensible should we see China-related headwinds.

We are patient. We have time on our side. We will participate if Micron does well tomorrow, yet we also trimmed should Micron not do well tomorrow. Look for the I/O Fund to lean into defensibility while acknowledging inning one from AI (which started in 2023) has been a crazy-good run and our goal is to load up for inning number two in the coming months.

Royston Roche and Beth Kindig, Equity Analysts at the I/O Fund, contributed to this article.

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