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Category: Data Center and Processing

Here’s Why Nvidia Stock Will Reach $10 Trillion Market Cap By 2030

Posted on June 10, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund
Here’s Why Nvidia Stock Will Reach $10 Trillion Market Cap By 2030

This article was originally published on Forbes on Jun 7, 2024,09:15am EDTForbesForbes on Jun 7, 2024,09:15am EDT

Nvidia has a market cap of $3 trillion today. We believe Nvidia will reach a $10 trillion market cap by 2030 or sooner through a rapid product road map, it’s impenetrable moat from the CUDA software platform, and due to being an AI systems company that provides components well beyond GPUs, including networking and software platforms.

In 2021, I published an analysis on Forbes “Here’s Why Nvidia Will Surpass Apple’s Valuation in 5 Years” that stated: “Nvidia has a market cap of roughly $550 billion compared to Apple’s nearly $2.5 trillion. We believe Nvidia can surpass Apple by capitalizing on the artificial intelligence economy, which will add an estimated $15 trillion to GDP.”an estimated $15 trillion to GDP.”

Yesterday, Nvidia officially surpassed Apple in market cap, which means I delivered on my prediction 2 years early.

This lends itself to the question, what do I foresee next for Nvidia, and how am I approaching this heavy hitter in AI. My firm champions full transparency by issuing trade alerts for every buy and sell we make; thus, I’ve included at the end a transparent discussion on how my firm is managing our position today.

But first, I unpack why I believe Nvidia can achieve an astonishing $10 trillion market cap by 2030. As you’ll see from the key points to my thesis, there is a bull case where a $10T market cap estimate in a little over six years’ time is not high enough.

“Millions of GPU Data Centers are Coming.”

On June 2nd, Jensen Huang made a very important statement about the future of AI that answers quite succinctly why Nvidia is on the verge of becoming the World’s Most Valuable Company:

“The days of millions of GPU data centers are coming. And the reason for that is very simple. Of course, we want to train much larger models. But very importantly, in the future, almost every interaction you have with the Internet or with a computer will likely have a generative AI running in the cloud somewhere. And that generative AI is working with you, interacting with you, generating videos or images or text or maybe a digital human. And so you're interacting with your computer almost all the time, and there's always a generative AI connected to that. Some of it is on-prem, some of it is on your device and a lot of it could be in the cloud […]

And so the amount of generation we're going to do in the future is going to be extraordinary.” – Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, Computex keynote

Today, there are tens-of-thousands of GPUs in data centers. By end of 2025, there will be hundreds-of-thousands of GPUs in data centers. Due to the market’s forward-looking nature, 2025 is getting close to being fully priced in. Here is a slide of what this looks like from the perspective of scaling the ethernet networking to support a million-plus GPU cluster.

Spectrum-X Image

Source: Nvidia, Computex Keynote Presentation

Here’s what we know about Big Tech’s purchases, thus far. Microsoft is reportedly looking to triple its GPU supply to 1.8 million GPUs this year to meet elevated demand for Azure, while Meta has disclosed its GPU orders with an announcement for 150,000 H100s last year and 350,000 H100s or H100-equivalents this year. Musk announced that X’s 100,000 H100 cluster would be online in a few months and hinted at a possible 300,000 B200 GPU purchase.

According to Next Platform, Meta has roughly 600,000 GPUs deployed including previous generations, such as Ampere. This could include some from AMD, although AMD is more likely to ramp in 2025 and beyond. Right now, Nvidia has a $100 billion run rate on its data center compared to AMD’s $4 billion, therefore, any portion of GPUs from AMD is nominal as it stands for 2024.

If we look closer at semantics, Huang used the word “millions” and not the singular word “million,” and “data centers” rather than the singular “data center.” Therefore, my firm is making the assumption that companies like Meta will grow their data center GPUs by a minimum of 233% from 600K to 2M by 2030.

Broadcom shares a similar view, noting that management expects million-GPU clusters by 2027, compared to clusters with tens of thousands of GPUs today. This is even more bullish than Jensen Huang’s comments. Coming back to Meta, even with 600,000 H100 equivalents, it’s building clusters of 24,000 GPUs. In order to see singular clusters scale to the hundreds of thousands and millions, as Broadcom is predicting, we would need to see GPU shipments far in excess of those levels. This alone could get us to $10 trillion market cap based off Big Tech’s data centers, and we have not factored in the enterprise. The enterprise includes companies like the Fortune 500 or Global 2000 that build on-premise AI systems.

We can cross-examine this by looking at comments by CEOs, such as Lisa Su who stated AI accelerators will reach $400 billion by 2027. Nvidia has over 95% market share of data center GPUs but with custom silicon ASICs and more GPUs coming online, this is closer to 80% market share of AI accelerators.

If this estimate materializes, Nvidia’s data center segment will be at $320 billion in 2027, up from data center run rate of $90 billion today, with consensus at roughly $145 billion data center segment by end of calendar year 2025 (consensus is total revenue of $157.51, deducting for other segments).

Data Center Revenue

Source: I/O Fund

In my analysis last month on the Blackwell architecture, I made the argument these estimates are too low and that my firm expects we will see a $200 billion data center segment by end of CY2025 propelled forward by the B100, B200 and GB200, including the following points: “Taiwan Semi’s CoWos capacity, which is essential for Blackwell’s architecture, is estimated to rise to 40,000 units/month by the end of 2024, which is more than a 150% YoY increase from ~15,000 units/month at the end of 2023. Applied Materials has boosted its forecast for HBM packaging revenue from a prior view for 4X growth to 6X growth this year.”

Data center segment for Nvidia of $320 billion by 2027 would result in 260% growth for Nvidia’s DC from where it stands today and up 120% from DC revenue estimates for end of CY2025. Using Lisa Su’s prediction, there would still be another three years to achieve the additional 120% needed to reach $10 trillion.

Industry analysts have a high-30 percent CAGR for AI accelerators through 2030 ranging from 36.6% to 37.4%. If we round this up to a 40-percent CAGR for Nvidia, then it’s not out of the question that Nvidia ends the decade with $800 billion from AI systems. That would be 450% growth from $145 billion at end of CY2025. This is the most bullish case scenario, which is why my current prediction is a bit more tame (for now) at predicting 233% growth by 2030.

Valuation is one of the most important points that confuses many investors (and short sellers) on why Nvidia’s stock continues to extend. We’ve called the valuation eerily loweerily low as most hypergrowth stocks would trade well above historical averages after a 500% move in 18 months. However, due to the 600% increase in earnings and 400% increase in revenue, the stock has remained well below its historical averages, while in fact, trading near October 2022 levels. To put this in perspective, on a forward PE basis, Nvidia was more expensive at the start of 2023 than it is today. Currently, it is trading at a forward P/E ratio of 44 compared to 62 in January 2023. You can view a clip here where I stated the stock was trading eerily low. This is still true today.

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The Technological Feat that Nvidia Accomplished

Many investors are surprised that Nvidia has surpassed Apple, and will pass Microsoft any day now to become the world’s most valuable company. Really, a gaming company? All of this from GPUs?

I want to make it abundantly clear that from a technological standpoint Nvidia has run circles around the FAANGsrun circles around the FAANGs over the past 8 years. Apple has sat stagnant while Nvidia is in its Steve Jobs-era. What has resulted is that Nvidia is no longer a GPU company; it’s an AI systems company. The best ten or fifteen minutes an investor can spend in today’s market is understanding what exactly Nvidia accomplished to get to $3T, otherwise, it will not be clear how we can get to $10T.

Below, I take you through the key points from each generation, including the moment Nvidia transitioned from being a GPU chip company and a gaming company to become the AI systems company that is powering a $15 trillion economy.

For ease of reading, I’ve bolded key takeaways and also underlined the not-to-miss points:

Pascal:

In 2016, Pascal featured 7.2 billion transistors and increased CUDA cores compared to the previous generation, Maxwell. CUDA cores are parallel processors that can perform complex calculations and execute tasks on graphics cards much faster than a central processor. Parallel computing is at the heart of why Nvidia transitioned from gaming to AI, as GPUs can execute multiple tasks at the same time (concurrently). Each generation increases CUDA cores, which helps to accelerate what workloads are possible. CUDA cores distribute compute across thousands of cores to train large scale neural networks and can process big data at exponential rates.

Pascal was built on TSMC’s 16nm process and Samsung’s 14nm FinFET process with 16-bit floating precision, plus NVLink bi-directional interconnect to scale multiple GPUs for applications. TSMC’s CoWoS packaging was used to support high-bandwidth memory (HBM2).

Volta:

Volta was built on a 12nm FinFET process with 32GB of HBM2, 900GB of bandwidth and 21 billion transistors. The breakthrough here was the introduction of Tensor cores for AI, machine learning and deep learning.

Tensor cores handle tensor and matrix operations, resulting in higher performance for neural networks. Tensor cores are capable of mixed-precision calculations, which contributes a significant amount to the “1,000 times increase in AI compute” quoted by Nvidia this past weekend. For example, switching from a 32-bit floating point to a 16-bit floating point can significantly increase training speed by requiring less memory and speeding up data transfer operations.

Due to introducing Tensor cores, Volta was the officially the first AI accelerator in history as it was designed for large scale training and connected up to eight GPUs. With Tensor Cores, Nvidia combined the benefits of parallel process and general-purpose compute from CUDA cores (which distributes tasks across thousands of cores) with the specialized acceleration offered from the matrix computations from Tensor Cores.

NVLink also saw an upgrade to 2.0 in this generation for higher data transfer rates.

Volta with Tensor Cores was launched in 2017 and further developed with two more releases launched in 2018. My firm began covering Nvidia’s AI thesis around this time, stating CUDA created an impenetrable moat for data center GPUs.

In 2019, Volta’s AI capabilities prompted me to say on my premium stock research site: “To be bold – I believe Nvidia will be one of the world’s most valuable companies by 2030. The research below organizes my investment thesis for the GPU-powered cloud and why I believe Nvidia will emerge as a clear leader.”

That premium research note was written on September 17th 2019 when Nvidia was at a $110 billion valuation.

The market cap of Nvidia when I first stated it would become the world’s most valuable company at $110.3B compared to a $3T market cap today, for a return of 2,600% in less than five years.

Source: YCharts

Pictured Above: Y-charts, the market cap of Nvidia when I first stated it would become the world’s most valuable company at $110.3B compared to a $3T market cap today, for a return of 2,600% in less than five years.

Turing:

Turing was built on the 12nm FinFET process with upgraded HBM2 memory (GDDR6) for higher bandwidth and 8-bit floating precision. Nvidia’s T4 GPUs delivered up to 40 times more performance than CPUs and are capable of real-time inference due to exponentially better throughput.

The architecture expanded to include more CUDA cores, second generation Tensor cores and the newly introduced RT Cores for real-time ray tracing. RT cores provide a boost to gaming and introduced professional visualization. The RTX platform was invented by Nvidia to “physically simulate light behavior in the world” and combines RT cores for ray tracing with Tensor Cores for AI.

Ampere:

If Tensor cores made Volta the first AI accelerator, then Ampere was the architecture that marked the moment Nvidia would no longer be considered a cyclical, gaming stock. I began to call Nvidia “secular” with this release and it’s when I doubled down on my conviction by taking my thesis from behind the paywall to the public, stating Nvidia would Surpass Apple in 5 Years. Nvidia not only became secular in revenue, but it’s secular-level gains have surpassed the world’s most celebrated software companies (every single one of them) since Ampere.

Nvidia-FAANG Chart

Source: YCharts

In fact, as one of the leading investors in semiconductors on record, I can assure you semiconductors have gone through a deep, cyclical trough industry-wide over the past 8 or so quarters while Nvidia powered higher with historical beats/raises. By providing in-demand AI systems, Nvidia has become decoupled from consumer spending and macro.

Nvidia-FAANG Charts 2

Pictured Above: Nvidia outperforms secular software and did not participate in the steep, cyclical trough over the past eight quarters like its semiconductor peers.

Source: YCharts

The A100 was built on TSMC’s advanced 7nm FinFET process node with 54 billion transistors. The third-gen Tensor cores featured new mixed-precision calculations, such as Tensor Float (TF32) and Floating Point 64 (FP64) with TF32 delivering up to 20X faster speeds for AI. By using automatic mixed precision, FP16 can be utilized for an additional 2X performance. Nvidia calls this the sparsity feature, which doubles throughput, runs 10X faster than the V100, and is 20X faster with sparsity.

What was special about the A100 is that it unified training and inference on a single chip, whereas in the past Nvidia was mainly used for training. With the specs described above, the A100 also offered a 20x performance boost.

As a multi-instance GPU, the A100 can make one GPU look like up to 7 GPUs for optimal utilization. This is key for cloud service providers, such as Amazon’s AWS, Google Cloud and Microsoft Azure, as it increased GPU instances by 7X.

The A100 was the first architecture where Nvidia was no longer simply a GPU chip company, but rather it marked the moment Nvidia became an AI systems company. The A100 offers the ability to scale-up multiple GPUs for one giant GPU using components such as third-gen NVLink to double GPU-to-GPU bandwidth, NVSwitch which is leveraged for fast data transfers, plus InfiniBand and SmartNICs following the Mellanox acquisition.

Hopper:

Hopper is when Wall Street became aware of Nvidia’s AI story. As you can see in this timeline, it was quite late for the Street to finally discover Nvidia is a promising AI stock!

The H100 GPUs and the DGX H100 server pods and super pods solved an important bandwidth issue and sped up algorithms by offering dynamic programming on GPUs to break down problems to simpler subproblems. The GPUs also boost bandwidth by 3X with SHARP in-networking computing and Infiniband Switches, and the H100 can leverage NVLink to connect eight H100s into one giant GPU for 640 billion transistors, 32 petaflops, 640GB of HBM3, and 24 terabytes per second of memory bandwidth.

The H100 has about 50% more memory and interface bandwidth than the A100. Memory later got a big boost in Blackwell, shipping this year.

The H100 stands apart with the leap in performance of 3X more performance than the A100 and is up to 6X faster. The A100 lacked support for FP8 compute at default whereas the H100 leverages a transformer engine to switch between FP8 and FP16, depending on the workload.

According to Nvidia, the H100 delivers 9X more throughput in AI training, and 16X to 30X more inference performance. The company also states in HPC application-specific workloads, the H100 is 7X faster. The goal of the H100 was not only to add more transistors and make the H100 faster, but to also offer function-specific optimizations. This is achieved through the transformer engine.

Although there are many highlights to consider with the H100, the biggest breakthrough was the transformer engine as it allowed generative AI to come to market. Transformers helped to define generative AI as the neural-network models apply self-attention to detect how data elements in a series influence and depend on one another.

Prior to transformer models, labeled datasets had to be used to train neural networks. Transformer models eliminate this need by finding patterns between elements mathematically, which substantially opens up what datasets can be used and how quickly.

The “T” in Chat-GPT stands for transformer and it was the H100 that created the GenAI breakthrough moment.

Blackwell:

Blackwell is the architecture that I stated on Fox Business News will deliver the “ultimate fireworks by the end of this year.” In the analysis Blackwell and the $200B Data Center, I stated: “Blackwell is for the trillion+ parameter era of generative AI. The architecture is designed to support the largest language models today and is future-proofed […]”

The full analysis is worth a read as it spells out how Nvidia will drive growth through the end of 2025 and why I think current data center estimates are too low. In fact, I wrote that prior to the last earnings report and analysts are already proving me correct as FY2026 (ending Jan 2026) have been revised up by a whopping $20 billion since I wrote that only three weeks ago!

Data Center Estimates

Source: Seeking Alpha

Pictured Above: Seeking Alpha, on May 23rd FY2026 revenue was estimated at $125 billion, it is now at $145 billion for an increase of $20 billion on the data center. This means that within three weeks, my prediction (that was written prior to earnings) for 60% higher data center revenue is quickly materializing, as in the last three brief weeks, the consensus has been revised so rapidly, the difference is only 38% now. On Bloomberg Asia, I also discussed why investors should pay close attention to intra-quarter revisions, which is exactly the reason the price moved in the past three weeks.Seeking Alpha, on May 23rd FY2026 revenue was estimated at $125 billion, it is now at $145 billion for an increase of $20 billion on the data center. This means that within three weeks, my prediction (that was written prior to earnings) for 60% higher data center revenue is quickly materializing, as in the last three brief weeks, the consensus has been revised so rapidly, the difference is only 38% now. On Bloomberg Asia, I also discussed why investors should pay close attention to intra-quarter revisions, which is exactly the reason the price moved in the past three weeks.

Unlike previous generations where the V100, A100 and H100 were the show-stoppers, it will be the GB200 and B200 that creates the biggest leap generationally. Therefore, I want to emphasize that I said the fireworks would come at the end of the year and into early 2025. The fireworks begin when the GB200 NVL36/NVL72 ships in late 2024 and then they continue with the B200 GPUs in early 2025.

The B200 GPU chipset due in Q1 of next year will deliver a 2.5X training improvement and 5X inference improvement over the H100. This is due to the B200 having 208 billion transistors compared to the H100’s 80 billion transistors.

The B200 will also have 20 petaflops of FP4 compared to the H100’s 4 petaflops of FP8 reaching 32 petaflops of FP8 in the DGX H100 systems. The difference is that the smaller bit size allows for an economical way to achieve more speed when giving up a small amount of accuracy doesn’t make a critical difference. As discussed, this also helps in the face of a slowing Moore’s Law. The B200 will have a second-generation transformer engine that supports 4-bit floating point (FP4) with the goal of doubling the performance and size of models the memory can support while maintaining accuracy.

The second-generation transformer engine in the Blackwell architecture will offer FP4. This is helpful because AI models are moving toward neural nets that lean on the lowest precision and yet still yield an accurate result. In this case, 4 bits double the throughput of 8-bit units, compute faster and more efficiently, and they require less memory and memory bandwidth.

TheGB200 NVL72 will deliver real-time trillion-parameter LLM inference, 4X LLM training, 25X energy efficiency, and 18X data processing. The GB200 will provide 4X faster training performance than the H100 HGX systems and will include a second-generation transformer engine with FP4/FP6 Tensor core. As stated above, the 4nm process integrates two GPU dies connected with 10 TB/s NVLink with 208 billion transistors.

NVLink Switch is a major component to the Blackwell upgrade. Fifth-generation NVLink enables multi-GPU communication at high speed, reaching 1.8 TB/s bidirectional throughput or 14X the bandwidth of PCIe for a single GPU.

Takeaway: Blackwell is the architecture that will make trillion+ parameter models possible, up from billion parameter models today.

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Nvidia’s 1-Year Release Cycle is Wild

If you’re exhausted reading that, imagine producing it in 8 brief years. Per the Computex keynote, from Pascal to Blackwell, the AI systems delivered “1,000 times increase in AI compute,” while simultaneously decreasing the “energy per token by 45,000X.”

Now, imagine cutting the time in half by producing four generations of AI systems in 4 years instead of 8 years.Now, imagine cutting the time in half by producing four generations of AI systems in 4 years instead of 8 years.

In the analysis “Nvidia Q1 Earnings Preview: Blackwell and the $200B Data Center,” I stated that “should [the CUDA] moat become breached, the company’s rapid product road map is the first line of defense,rapid product road map is the first line of defense,” and later I also stated: "The product road map is the single most important thing investors should be focused on. A good chunk of the AI accelerator story is understood at this point. What is not understood is how aggressive Nvidia is becoming by speeding up to a one-year release cycle for its next generation of GPUs instead of a two-year release cycleThe product road map is the single most important thing investors should be focused on. A good chunk of the AI accelerator story is understood at this point. What is not understood is how aggressive Nvidia is becoming by speeding up to a one-year release cycle for its next generation of GPUs instead of a two-year release cycle."

After writing that, I realized it would be impossible to ask investors to focus on the upcoming road map if we did not look more closely at the road map that got us to $3 trillion. By now, it should be crystal clear that Nvidia is not a cyclical GPU chip company, rather it’s a secular AI systems and software platform company that has a near-monopoly in building supercomputers for the $15 trillion AI economy. If you are still not convinced that Nvidia is more than a GPU company, perhaps these two pictures can help.

Here’s a Blackwell GPU chip and a Hopper GPU chip — can easily fit in your hand.

Blackwell GPU Chips

Here’s a Blackwell GPU chip and a Hopper GPU chip, can easily fit in your hand.

Source: Nvidia

Here’s what AI factories look like (or what I’m calling AI systems):

AI Systems

Source: Nvidia Newsroom

What’s Next for Nvidia:

This past weekend, Nvidia announced the names of future generations: Blackwell Ultra, Rubin, and Rubin Ultra. The specifics of these future generations will be revealed at future GTC conferences.

Here is what you keep an eye out for in future generations:

  • 3nm process node and 2nm process node, which I covered here in a TSMC analysis
  • HBM3e memory and HBM4 memory, which I covered here under the subheading “More on Memory”
  • Future generations of NVLink, which I also covered in my Blackwell writeup
  • InfiniBand and Spectrum-X Ethernet for AI workloads: I’ve covered InfiniBand since the Mellanox acquisition yet also covered the importance of Ethernet networking in-depth on my premium site in February. Last year, networking grew five-fold to a $10B run rate, which technically marked a higher growth rate than AI accelerators.
  • AI Software and Automotive: I wrote a deep dive on Nvidia’s software opportunity exclusively for my premium members in July of 2022. I will update my free readers in the coming quarters on these two opportunities which will help us end the decade strong. This market will rival Nvidia’s hardware market by 2030 (yes, you heard that correctly).

Our Price Target for the Next Entry

Some of you reading this own Nvidia, and others do not. For those who do not own the stock, the most important question is not what market cap will Nvidia have by 2030, but rather, where is the stock going in the near-term.

My firm is an actively managed portfolio that publishes our trades in real-time. However, we are not financial advisors and each investor must decide for themselves whether to buy or sell a stock. What my firm does is simply state when we are buying or selling for unrivaled transparency. You will be hard pressed to find anyone else publish every single trade in real-time outside of professional fund managers (who are required to do so).

Since I first began covering Nvidia publicly in 2018, my firm has issued 9 buy alerts under $200 and we have been taking nominal profits along the way. We plan to take profits again in the $1225 to $1315 range. Nvidia is trading in this potential topping zone, at time of writing. Once price moves below $1035, it will signal that the anticipated reversal is underway. Once this happens, our process allows us to get more precise with identifying buy targets. Until then, we have a general range between $920 – $715. Keep in mind, this range can shift once a reversal is identified.

For some stocks, we get more aggressive and would try to time a buy in the lower range of the target zone, which would be around $715 for NVDA. However, due to the strength of its thesis, we will likely buy at the upper end of that target around $920.

Nvidia Chart

Source: I/O Fund

If you had bought Nvidia January 1st 2022 instead of October 18th of 2022, your returns would be 387% instead of 1,034%. Therefore, 230% returns by 2030 would be phenomenal, but when entering at lower prices, the total return can multiply. For example, let’s say an investor can buy the stock at $900. In this hypothetical situation, the returns would be 350% compared to 230%. This is simple in concept yet is challenging to execute.

As of now, Nvidia stock should be watched closely between $1225 to $1315. It’s crystal clear that Nvidia owns the AI market, yet the stock will need the broad market to be aligned for its phenomenal run to continue. We’ve been tracking the fading Mag 7 since early March. At this point, the Mag 7 had become the Mag 4, when we stated…

“when the cycle leaders start to underperform, it tends to mark the start of a trend change. The FAANGs have been the undoubted leaders of this bull run, and we are now seeing them start to trend lower against the indexes.”

After the rally we saw this week, it’s worth noting that Nvidia is the only stock in the Mag 7 that is making new all-time highs. Amazon, Alphabet and Meta are making lower highs as of today.

Nvidia-FAANG Chart

Source: I/O Fund

Until we see more market leaders breakout, Nvidia remains the last one standing. Therefore, if Nvidia cannot break above the $1225 range, then the market is communicating that Nvidia’s weaker peers may be influencing its price action. We’ve stated many times that Nvidia is a buy on the dips (as opposed to a buy on breakouts), specifically as “we brace for Blackwell by the end of the year.”

What’s worth noting is that while SPX, NDX and NVDA are making new highs, almost every other major index (RUT, DJI, NYA, RSP, XLF, XHB, to name a few), including the Mag 6, are not.

For Nvidia to continue moving up in a straight line means the stock will have to operate in a vacuum. This is unlikely, and thus we are waiting for the next dip before we buy again. Our current target, once again, is in the $920 – $715 range, although depending on market dynamics this could shift. We update our premium research members with real-time trade alerts and weekly webinars.

Conclusion:

The boldest prediction I have made on Nvidia was to state in an analysis to my premium research members in September of 2019: “To be bold – I believe Nvidia will be one of the world’s most valuable companies by 2030. The research below organizes my investment thesis for the GPU-powered cloud and why I believe Nvidia will emerge as a clear leader.”

The world’s most valuable company at that time was Apple hovering at a $1 trillion market cap compared to Nvidia’s $110 billion market cap. As many fierce critics pointed out to me, I was not only predicting that Nvidia would skyrocket but that Apple and every other FAANG would falter. This was a challenging prediction to make as many things had to line up: 1) Nvidia must blow the doors off, and 2) every FAANG would have to plateau.

Here is what happened next:

FAANG Chart

Source: YCharts

All said and done, I will keep the 2030 deadline for the $10 trillion market cap, although I suspect, as with my other predictions, it will be delivered to you sooner.

Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the company’s portfolio. We then share that information with our readers and offer real-time trade notifications. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance and it is not financial advice. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis. Beth Kindig and the I/O Fund own shares in NVDA at the time of writing and may own stocks pictured in the charts.

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Nvidia Q1 Earnings Preview: Blackwell And The $200B Data Center

Posted on May 28, 2024June 30, 2026 by io-fund
Nvidia Q1 Earnings Preview: Blackwell And The $200B Data Center

This article was originally published on Forbes onForbesForbes on May 22, 2024,05:58am EDT

Nvidia’s management team will focus on the H200 in the upcoming earnings call, but make no mistake, we will end this year in full-on Blackwell territory. The new architecture is at the forefront of training and inference for trillion+ parameter models. More than five years ago, I called CUDA the moat for Nvidia’s AI data center story, yet should that moat become breached, the company’s rapid product road maprapid product road map is the first line of defense.

Nvidia is the world’s leading GPU design company, which bears reminding since such little emphasis in Wall Street is placed on what the designs intend to solve. For those paying close attention, there are clues that the company’s fast and furious data center growth will see a second wind with Blackwell.

Nvidia is Hitting Peak Growth: The Hopper Impact

Last quarter in fiscal Q4, Nvidia reported growth of 265%. Last quarter is likely to be peak growth for the company. We pointed this out three months ago when our analysis stated: “Even if we see a beat and raise, the slowing growth in the second half will be hard to overcome due to high comps. As mentioned in the introduction, Nvidia will begin to lap some stellar quarters come the October CY2024 quarter as the growth in October of CY2023 was 205.5% YoY.”

At time of writing, the revenue estimates for Nvidia point to growth of 242%. A beat/raise this quarter is not likely to flow through to a higher growth rate in H2 compared to what we saw in Q4 and what we will see in Q1. Therefore, even if Q1 inches slightly past fiscal Q4 tomorrow evening, we have hit peak growth.

Typically, a growth investor should be cautious when a company hits its peak growth rate after a drastic rise in the stock price. Here is a chart we published three months ago updated with current estimates:

Revenue Growth YoY

Source: I/O Fund

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Organic Growth

However, Nvidia’s margins and earnings expansion are creating an outlier of a stock. There are rumors Blackwell GPUs will be priced starting at $30,000 to $40,000 but will have more expensive memory components with HBM3e. As long as margins remain within range, this will not be consequential considering Nvidia is posting organic growth.

This is drastically different than a stock that relies on growth at any cost, growth at any cost, which is where rapid growth is bought rather than earned. The quality of Nvidia’s growth is much better than what tech investors are used to, and this is predominately why Nvidia stock is resilient (within reason; there will always be selloffs in the market). As supply/demand becomes more balanced, it will be Nvidia’s aggressive product road map, which in many cases is designed to compete with themselves, that will keep pricing power stable, starting with Blackwell.

For example, there are recent reports that AWS is pausing orders on Hopper GPUs in anticipation of Blackwell GPUs. The market may interpret this as weakness, but this is actually a sign of immense strength. Nvidia needs to pass the baton from the H100s and H200s to the Blackwell architecture for the stock price to extend. We are less concerned with what happens in the immediate-term, and in fact, the I/O Fund has stated a few times that Nvidia is a buy on dips, implying the stock won’t go up forever. Instead, we are encouraged to see early signs of a careful transition to the next architecture to help inform our next buy.

Nvidia’s $150B to $200B Data Center: The Blackwell Effect

There is nothing quite like rapid earnings revisions intra-quarter to determine the quality of a position. For example, consider that Nvidia sold off directly after the November report, yet has gone up a rapid 91% since. The earnings revisions are why Nvidia is so strong intra-quarter:

  • This upcoming quarter is expected to report growth of 242%. Last August, the growth for the April quarter was expected to be 91.6%. Only three months ago, the estimates for the April quarter were for growth of 197.5%. Stated in terms of revenue, this quarter’s revisions have doubled from $13.8 billion in August to $24.5 billion.
  • Next quarter, the company is expected to report growth of 98.7%. This was expected to be growth of 44.6% last November. Stated in terms of revenue, next quarter’s revenue has gone up $7 billion from $19.5 billion in November to $26.7 billion in May. In the past three months alone, the estimates went up $4 billion.

Below, we discuss why margins, cash flow and strong earnings support our decision to buy on dips. However, equally as important, there is also a decent probability that FY2026 and FY2027 revenue estimates are too low. The most bullish analyst from KeyBanc is calling for a $200 billion data center segment by 2025. HSBC believes Nvidia’s FY26 revenue could be as high as $196 billion, which implies about a $192 billion data center segment. Loop Capital foresees a $150 billion data center segment as soon as this year, while Wells Fargo has estimates for a $150 billion data center segment by 2027. The exact timing from these analysts has a range, but the conclusion is very similar.

Let’s breakdown the weight of those comments with some back-of-the-napkin math, which shows that analysts are currently estimating about $122.4B in data center revenue for FY2026 (calendar year 2025). This is about 65% lower than the more bullish analyst estimates of $200 billion in data center revenue.

  • Q1 FY25: $20.75B
  • Q2 FY25: $23B
  • Q3 FY25: $25.5B
  • Q4 FY25: $27.7B
  • Q1 FY26: $27.87B
  • Q2 FY26: $29.7B
  • Q3 FY26: $31.51B
  • Q4 FY26: $33.25B
Data Center Revenue

Source: I/O Fund

These are the current estimates, yet if the analysts are correct, then the far right of the graph will end in $50B quarterly revenue. The difference between the current consensus and this much higher trajectory can be summarized in one word: Blackwell.

There are additional data points in the supply chain and on the demand side that support Blackwell seeing an increase in orders over Hopper. For example, Taiwan Semi’s CoWos capacity, which is essential for Blackwell’s architecture, is estimated to rise to 40,000 units/month by the end of 2024, which is more than a 150% YoY increase from ~15,000 units/month at the end of 2023. Applied Materials has boosted its forecast for HBM packaging revenue from a prior view for 4X growth to 6X growth this year. According to Wells Fargo, Taiwanese export data rose 360% year-over-year and 33% quarter-over-quarter, and is often correlated to Nvidia data center revenue.

Note: It’s important to remember this is not earnings call on what will happen tomorrow evening as the revenue will be reported when it ships to the customer. However, it helps to consider there are directionally bullish data points should the market sell off following the report and provide us a lower entry.

Notably, the premiere component for the H200 and Blackwell is HBM3e memory, which is currently supply constrained. Samsung and SK Hynix are both re-allocating ~20% of DRAM production capacity to HBM to meet high demand, while HBM4 roadmaps are being accelerated.

CEOs of major companies in AI acceleration are in agreement the total addressable market is much, much larger than today’s market size. Lisa Su of AMD has stated the AI chip market will reach $400B by 2027. Intel’s CEO has stated AI chips will become a $1T opportunity by 2030, which is almost twice the size of the entire chip industry in 2023.

Big Tech capex is supporting this growth. Our firm has been especially strong on correlating capex to AI investments for our paid research members, where we held a 1-hour webinar in April discussing our expectations that capex increases in support of AI stocks. We followed this up with free analysis in our newsletter that tracked a 35% YoY increase to $200 billion across Big Tech companies. A disproportionate amount of this will go to Nvidia.

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China:

A curveball in the report could be higher than expected China revenue due to China-specific GPUs, such as the H20. Similar to Big Tech in the United States, China’s main players are stockpiling GPUs to secure their lead in AI.

Regarding China, last quarter, the following was stated: “Growth was strong across all regions except for China, where our Data Center revenue declined significantly following the U.S. government export control regulations imposed in October. Although we have not received licenses from the U.S. government to ship restricted products to China, we have started shipping alternatives that don't require a license for the China market. China represented a mid-single-digit percentage of our Data Center revenue in Q4, and we expect it to stay in a similar range in the first quarter.”. Although we have not received licenses from the U.S. government to ship restricted products to China, we have started shipping alternatives that don't require a license for the China market. China represented a mid-single-digit percentage of our Data Center revenue in Q4, and we expect it to stay in a similar range in the first quarter.”

Nvidia’s Blackwell will Answer to Hopper’s Excellence

The product road map is the single most important thing investors should be focused on. A good chunk of the AI accelerator story is understood at this point. What is not understood is how aggressive Nvidia is becoming by speeding up to a one-year release cycle for its next generation of GPUs instead of a two-year release cycle.

This means Nvidia is competing with itself by putting Blackwell dangerously close to Hopper’s product cycle. This move is bold, it’s daring, and it’s absolutely necessary.

Here is the very ambitious eight month schedule Nvidia has set for itself:

  • The H200 with HBM3e is shipping now.
  • The B100 and GB200 are shipping in late 2024.
  • The B200 will be released in early 2025.

The Blackwell architecture remains on 4nm dies, similar to the Hopper architecture. What is different is that Blackwell has 2 reticle-sized GPU dies. Reticle size refers to the limit in the chip surface that can be exposed by a single mask. The limit is set by the lithography equipment. At one point it was expected Blackwell would be on 3nm dies, yet due to reasons unknown, Nvidia is moving forward with 4nm. Since Nvidia is not able to offer a more advanced process node, the company is instead doubling the silicon. The Blackwell architecture is rumored to be priced between $30,000 to $40,000, which is higher than the H100’s reported $25,000 cost. This is competitive considering B200 will offer nearly 30X better performance (benchmarks are provided by Nvidia).

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B100 & B200

The B100 is a replacement chip, which means customers can remove the H100 and place the B100 in the same rack. The B100 is air-cooled and doubles NVLink speeds from the H100 and H200. The B100 is will ship in Q3 and provide upgrades to memory from 80GB in the H100, 141GB in the H200 to 192GB in the B100.

The B200 GPU chipset due in Q1 of next year will deliver a 2.5X training improvement and 5X inference improvement over the H100. This is due to the B200 having 208 billion transistors compared to the H100’s 80 billion transistors.

The B200 will also have 20 petaflops of FP4 compared to the H100’s 4 petaflops of FP8 reaching 32 petaflops of FP8 in the DGX H100 systems. The difference is that the smaller bit size allows for an economical way to achieve more speed when giving up a small amount of accuracy doesn’t make a critical difference. This also helps in the face of a slowing Moore’s Law. Following the release of the Hopper H100, Intel released Gaudi2 which supports FP8. About two years back, chip makers Graphcore, AMD and Qualcomm pushed for an industry-standard for floating point format FP8. However, the recent B200 will have a second-generation transformer engine that supports 4-bit floating point (FP4) with the goal of doubling the performance and size of models the memory can support while maintaining accuracy.

Part of the secret sauce of the H100 is the transformer engine. The A100 lacked support for FP8 compute at default whereas the H100 leveraged a transformer engine to switch between FP8 and FP16, depending on the workload. The second-generation transformer engine in the Blackwell architecture will offer FP4. This is helpful because AI models are moving toward neural nets that lean on the lowest precision and yet still yields an accurate result. In this case, 4 bits double the throughput of 8-bit units, compute faster and more efficiently, and they require less memory and memory bandwidth.

The main feature from the Transformer Engine is the ability to choose what precision is needed for each layer in the neural network at each step, transitioning between 4-bits, 8-bits, 16-bits, or 32-bits. The H100 is able to do matrix math with two forms of 8-bit numbers with either 5-bits as the exponent or 4-bits as the exponent: E5M2 and E4M3. This is important because the E4M3 may be favored for back propagation while E5M2 may be favored for inferencing.

Building on the first-gen transformer engine, the B200’s second-gen transformer engine will support double the compute and model sizes with new 4-bit floating point AI inference capabilities.

GB200 NVL72 Systems:

According to the current product road map, the GB200 will be released before the B200 GPUs. The real fireworks will begin with the GB200 NVL36/NVL72 systems in late 2024 and then continue with the B200 GPUs in early 2025.

The GB200 Grace Blackwell chip connects two Blackwell Tensor core GPUs with the Nvidia Grace CPU. The GB200 NVL 72 rack-scale exascale supercomputer, connects 36 Grace CPUs with 72 Blackwell GPUs in a rack-scale design with liquid cooling. We’ve written in-depth about liquid cooling for our premium research members, learn more here.about liquid cooling for our premium research members, learn more here.

According to HSBC, the average sales price of NVL36/NVL72 server rack will be $1.8 million and $3 million, respectively. Notably, its expected the GB200 systems will have strong margins due to using an in-house CPU.

Here are the stats provided from Nvidia on how it will compare:

  • 30X faster real-time trillion-parameter LLM inference
  • 4X LLM training
  • 25X energy efficiency
  • 18X data processing
GB200 System

Source: Nvidia, the GB200 System due to ship in Q4 this year

The GB200 will provide 4X faster training performance than the H100 HGX systems and will include a second-generation transformer engine with FP4/FP6 Tensor core. As stated above, the 4nm process integrates two GPU dies connected with 10 TB/s NVLink with 208 billion transistors.

NVLink Switch is a major component to the Blackwell upgrade. Fifth-generation NVLink enables multi-GPU communication at high speed, reaching 1.8 TB/s bidirectional throughput or 14X the bandwidth of PCIe for a single GPU.

For the NVL72 systems, NVLink Switch can reach 130 TB/second, which is “more than the aggregate bandwidth of the internet.” Therefore, it’s the compute and the communication capabilities of the upcoming GB200 release that are important to consider. The 72 GPUs in the NVL72 can be used as a single accelerator for 1.4 exaflops of AI compute power.

Why GB200s and B200s will Drive more Demand:

To scale up a model, AI departments utilize a Mixture of Experts (MoE) approach. MoE distributes a computational load across “multiple experts” (or neural networks) and trains across thousands of GPUs using what is called model and pipeline parallelism. This enables more compute-efficient pretraining yet the parameters still need to be loaded in RAM, so the memory requirements remain high.

For inference, GB200 will deliver “a 30X speedup” for 1 trillion­­+ parameter models by leveraging FP4 precision and fifth-generation NVLink. This is what that the leap in real-time throughput for inference looks like for a 1.8 trillion parameter model:

GPT-MoE Chart

Source: Nvidia Blog

Blackwell is for the trillion+ parameter era of generative AI. The architecture is designed to support the largest language models today and is future-proofed with the GB200 NVL72 rack-scale solution, which is an exascale computer that contains up to 5,000 NVLink cables that total 2 miles. You also have to consider that AMD was coming to market in the first release with nearly 2X memory as the H100. Nvidia is remaining competitive with HBM3e and soon HBM4 to help models run in memory.

The GB200 also has a new decompression engine that allows GPUs to process and decompress compressed data sets to speed up database queries. Coupled with 8 TB/s of high memory bandwidth and high speed NVLink, the GB200 systems deliver up to 18X faster database queries. In addition to this, there is up to 13X faster physics-based simulations compared to CPUs and 22X faster simulations for computational fluid dynamics (CFD).

More on Memory:

High bandwidth memory (HBM) offers higher bandwidth, capacity, performance, and lower power by vertically stacking up to twelve DRAM memory chips to shorten how far data has to travel, while also allowing for smaller form factors. Stacked memory chips are connected through something called “through silicon vias” or TSVs. HBM is increasingly being used to power machine learning, high performance data centers, and more recently, generative AI models.

CoWoS (chip-on-wafer-on-substrate) architecture refers to 3D stacking of memory and processor modules layer by layer to create chiplets. The architecture leverages through-silicon vias (TSVs) and micro-bumps for shorter interconnect length and reduced power consumption compared to 2D packaging.

The advanced CoWoS packaging that is needed to combine logic system-on-chip (SoC) with high bandwidth will take longer, and thus, it’s expected that Blackwell will be able to fully ship by Q4 this year or Q1 next year. How management guides for this will be up to them, but commentary should be fairly informative by Q3 time frame.

GPUs will move from 8Hi configurations to 12Hi HBM3e configurations by 2025. These upgrades are needed to train and deploy large models with trillions of parameters in the near future. What Nvidia’s product road map intends to accomplish is a way forward for real-time inference that is computationally efficient, cost-effective and energy efficient.

My firm has covered HBM3e in the past when we stated in a premium research report six months ago:

The recent surge in generative AI and AI GPUs, spurred by the success of OpenAI’s ChatGPT and development of hundreds of other large language models, are forecast to bring about a new DRAM market, underpinned by high-bandwidth memory (HBM) and DDR5

[…] HBM3 and HBM3e are becoming the next battleground for memory chip manufacturers as well as AI chip design companies, especially Nvidia and AMD, who are pushing the boundaries with the amount of memory bandwidth in each GPU.

AMD’s competing GPUs, the MI300 series, substantially boosted memory and bandwidth relative to the H100, utilizing Samsung’s HBM3. The MI300A is shipping with 128GB HBM3 memory while the MI300x ships with 192GB memory and 5.2 TB/s of bandwidth – that’s 1.6x more bandwidth and 2.4x more HBM3 density than Nvidia’s H100.

Nvidia is rapidly moving forward with its GPU roadmap, as it aims to launch its next-gen H200 and B100 GPUs next year followed by the X100 GPU in 2025 – each GPU will accelerate AI inference times along an exponential curve, thus creating a need for more memory and more bandwidth.”

Nvidia’s Fiscal Q1 Report Card: What You Need to Know

Now that we’ve touched base on the importance of Blackwell, let’s get prepped for this evening. Here is what analysts are expecting:

Revenue:

  • For Q1, Nvidia is expected to report revenue of $24.6 billion, for growth of 242%. Management guided for revenue of $24 billion +/- 2%, for a growth rate of 233.7%, at the midpoint.
  • Next quarter, the company is expected to report revenue of $26.8 billion for growth of 98.7%.
  • On a fiscal year basis, the company is expected to report revenue of $113.2 billion for growth of 85.8%. These estimates have doubled since August.
  • The FY2026 growth rate of 26.1% for revenue of $142.8 billion, and then FY2027 growth rate of 17.7% for revenue of $168 billion, is where estimates are too low if there is a $200 billion data center segment in the medium-term.

EPS:

In Nvidia’s case, top line growth is flowing through to bottom line growth disproportionately.

  • For Q1, Nvidia is expected to report adjusted EPS of $5.58 for growth of 411.9%.
  • Next quarter, Nvidia is expected to report adjusted EPS of $6.00 for growth of 122.1%.
  • For FY2025, adjusted EPS is expected to be $25.4 for growth of 96%. FY2026 adjusted EPS is expected to be $32.2 for growth of 26.6%.

Margins:

As the story for Nvidia unfolds over the next few years, keep an eye on margins as software will begin to positively impact the company with higher margins. The company is expected to end the year with $2 billion in software revenue.

In the near-term, and especially for this earnings report, it’s likely that analysts ask about the costs associated with HBM3e as memory components are increasing in costs. TrendForce has reported that HBM3 prices have risen 5-fold since 2023. HBM3e prices will be even higher than HBM3. Analysts may also ask about the yield issues that major memory suppliers SK Hynix, Micron, and Samsung are reported to be facing, given the complexities in the manufacturing process for HBM3e and its longer production cycle. For our premium members, we’ve discussed what stocks will benefit from this leading trend in 2024.our premium members, we’ve discussed what stocks will benefit from this leading trend in 2024.

  • Management guided for gross margin of 76.3% for gross profit of $18.3 billion. If reported in line, this will represent flat growth QoQ and 1170 bps expansion from 64.6% in the year ago quarter.
  • Management guide for adjusted gross margin is 77%. If reported, it will represent 30 bps QoQ expansion and 1020 bps expansion YoY.
  • Operating margin was guided to be 61.7% for operating profit of $14.8 billion. If reported, this will be flat QoQ yet up a whopping 32-points from 29.76%. This is the most rapid operating margin expansion that I have personally witnessed. It is rare, even with a hyper growth company to report a 32-point expansion on this line item.
  • Adjusted operating margin of 66.6% will be flat QoQ and up from 42.4% in the year ago quarter.
  • Net margin guide is 52.1%. If reported, it will be down (3.5%) sequentially. However, a remarkable 23.7% expansion on a YoY basis.

Cash and Debt:

Last quarter, Nvidia reported operating cash flow of $11.5 billion for a margin of 52%. The free cash flow of $11.2 billion represents a margin of 50.7%. The fiscal year free cash flow of $26.9 billion was more than 7 times higher than the fiscal year 2023 free cash flow of $3.75 billion.

Key Segments:

The data center segment reported revenue of $18.4 billion for growth of 409% YoY and was up 29% QoQ. Nvidia’s tough comps kick in with the Q2 July quarter when the company reported DC revenue of $10.3 billion for growth of 171%, and thus the guide is key. Management will not guide to DC specifically but it’ll be easy enough for analysts to read through the lines that any beat/raise on Q2 is likely coming from the DC segment.

The CFO mentioned in the earnings call that 40% of the revenue came from inference in the past year. “Fourth quarter data center growth was driven by both training and inference of generative AI and large language models across a broad set of industries, use cases and regions. The versatility and leading performance of our data center platform enables a high return on investment for many use cases, including AI training and inference, data processing and a broad range of CUDA accelerated workloads. We estimate in the past year approximately 40% of data center revenue was for AI inference.”

Gaming revenue of $2.8 billion was up 56% YoY and was flat QoQ. Nvidia has fared better than gaming peers due to the timing of the RTX 4000 Series, which I covered in a previous editorial: “Nvidia Stock: Evidence Gaming has Bottomed and Why It’s Important.”Nvidia Stock: Evidence Gaming has Bottomed and Why It’s Important.” With that said, management guided for a seasonal decline in gaming.

  • Professional Visualization reported revenue of $463 million for growth of 105% YoY and 11% QoQ.
  • Automotive reported revenue of $281 million, down 4% YoY but up 8% QoQ.
  • OEM & Other reported revenue of $90 million, up 7% YoY and 23% QoQ.

Conclusion:

As stated on Making Money with Charles Payne today, the upcoming earnings report is only one piece to the story, whereas the ultimate fireworks will be when the Blackwell architecture begins to ship Q3-Q4. The product road map is communicating that AI accelerators are secular; not cyclical.

We will see peak growth this quarter – even if we get that beat that Nvidia is becoming known for, H2 will certainly see a slowdown. This is normally a great jumping off point for investors but those who stick with Nvidia will be rewarded for a few reasons:

  • This is an organic growth company, which is very rare in tech where most growth is bought. That means Nvidia is likely to remain strong on margins and EPS, even in the face of slowing revenue growth.
  • The supply chain is providing hints that analyst estimates for the data center are too low – there could be up to 65% upside on those estimates in the next 6-7 quarters.
  • The reason I side with Keybanc, Loop and others in thinking the estimates are too low – and this last point is critical – is because Nvidia is speeding up its product road map and introducing the Blackwell architecture to address the trillion+ parameter models that Big Tech will compete to create and train.

Nvidia has sold off 10% or greater about 9 times since the 2022 low. We see any dips as buying opportunities as we brace for Blackwell toward the end of this year.

Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the company’s portfolio. We then share that information with our readers and offer real-time trade notifications. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance and it is not financial advice. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis. Beth Kindig and the I/O Fund own shares in NVDA at the time of writing and may own stocks pictured in the charts.

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Interview with Real Vision: Nvidia is the #1 AI Stock and Why Cloud Looks Weak

Posted on January 13, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund
Interview with Real Vision: Nvidia is the #1 AI Stock and Why Cloud Looks Weak

Last week, I joined Samuel Burke from Real Vision to discuss “3 Ideas.” We discussed why I see Nvidia as the #1 AI stock and also why cloud is weaker than it appears.

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The full 30-minute video is available here with a Real Vision subscription or 7-day free trial.

 For more information on our Nvidia thesis, you can access previous research here:

  • Nvidia Stock: Evidence Gaming Bottomed and Why It’s Important
  • Nvidia Stock is Ready to Rumble with RTX 40 Series and H100 GPUs
  • Here’s Why Nvidia Will Surpass Apple’s Valuation in 5 Years

 For more information on why Cloud is Weak, you can access our previous research here:

  • Slowing Growth in Cloud Stocks: When Will We Hit a Bottom

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Big Data, Analytics (and ML): Microtrend Deep Dive

Posted on September 29, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

There are three important trends we weave together in this report to draw conclusions around potential winners in big data and analytics. We’ve recently covered MongoDB, Elastic, and we’ve discussed Confluent. What do they all have in common and why are these companies important right now? That’s what we aim to answer in this write-up.

Before we go into where we are with big data and analytics right now, I’ll quickly touch on cloud IaaS and especially why hybrid and multi-cloud are leading this space and why investors should not be concerned with tech giants that offer competing products in the data and analytics space.

When we talk about Big Data, the main driver is machine learning, which is performed through supervised learning with the use of historical data, or unsupervised learning, with clustering models and associations to identify rules. There is also reinforcement learning that is trained from feedback. Here are the three trends we are going to weave together to form a full picture of Big Data and Analytics.

  1. The migration to the cloud — but more specifically multi-cloud and hybrid
  2. Why multi-cloud drives demand for best-of-breed, i.e., generally speaking, we do not need to be overly concerned when tech giants that offer competing products
  3. How Apache Spark helped catalyze the AI/ML market with efficient data processing
  4. How we plan to invest right now given that #2 and #3 are prepping the market for us

Hybrid and Multi-Cloud are Driving the Cloud IaaS Market:

For cloud IaaS, we don’t want to only focus on CAGR but also the budget allocation that cloud IaaS is capturing. According to IDC, the IaaS market will reach $112.9 billion at a CAGR of 11.3% through 2025 and will account for 66.1% of total compute and storage infrastructure spend. Two-thirds of IaaS spend is on the public cloud.

To compare, the on-premise market (i.e., not hybrid) will grow at 0.3% CAGR for a total of $57.9 billion. According to the most recent Denodo survey, hybrid cloud drove 35% of the workloads worldwide. Private cloud expanded from 16.6% of workloads to 24% percent of workloads worldwide. Meanwhile, the public cloud had flat growth.

Hybrid cloud is a mix of public and private clouds or a mix of cloud and on-premise. Enterprise companies that choose hybrid deployments are motivated to not share intellectual property or data with a vendor, known as data residency, plus other security implications that come with storing data on another company’s servers. Other companies find moving to the cloud to be time and resource-intensive and prefer to keep some workloads on the servers they own.

Recently, a report came out that repatriation, or moving some workloads back to on-premise, has resulted in quite a bit of cost savings for companies like Dropbox, Crowdstrike and Zscaler, who use hybrid approaches. The report is quite surprising as the conclusion is that $100 billion to $500 billion in market value is lost on cloud deployments in terms of margins. One use case that is detailed is Dropbox, a company that reported savings of $75 million in two years after repatriation, which in turn, helped the company’s gross margins increase from 33% to 67%. Meanwhile, companies like Asana and Datadog spend about 60% of their revenue towards committed cloud spend. This report, among others, shows why hybrid is likely to be the chosen deployment for many enterprises into the near future.

We had previously formed a Microsoft thesis in 2018 based on the trend towards hybrid cloud and why a focus on a hybrid strategy for governments and enterprises was important to Azure’s growth rate. Microsoft is especially well suited to serve the hybrid market because of the company’s deep roots with on-premise enterprise software. When the I/O Fund first covered hybrid cloud as a major driver of cloud IaaS in 2018, Amazon’s AWS did not even have a publicly available hybrid product. The company later publicly released Outposts in 2019 to compete with Azure. If you want more information about how these two compete on hybrid on-prem deployments specifically, the in-depth analysis I published in the past is found on Seeking Alpha and also Forbes.

Multi-cloud refers to using more than one cloud provider, which is usually done to avoid vendor lock-in and to choose best-of-breed products. It also helps to avoid downtime should one cloud provider go down or become overwhelmed with demand.

Source: Statista

Multi-cloud is the dominant strategy today and is used by 80% to 90% of organizations. In 2019, Gartner stated 81% of respondents were using two or more cloud providers. The top reason was to avoid vendor lock-in by the “megavendors.” Therefore, this is why investors should not be concerned with tech giants offering competing products in the data and analytics space. The far majority of companies are taking strides to avoid vendor lock-in as multi-cloud technically requires more work yet increases agility and flexibility. The end result is these companies will use best-in-breed products.

According to IBM, 98% of companies plan to use multiple hybrid clouds and 85% operate in multi-cloud environment. There is substantial evidence that organizations are preferring a mix of cloud providers. Most importantly to our thesis and this particular analysis, only 40% use management tools and/or have implemented DevOps practices. The migration to the cloud was happening slowly over time and this migration is under-served in terms of management tools, data and analytics. This would be a sufficient tailwind on its own yet we also have the additional tailwind of data-intensive industries that are moving into machine learning. 

The motivation behind cloud IaaS growth and especially hybrid and multi-cloud growth is partially driven by the need for analytics, and also newer trends, such as stream processing. Stream processing is a continuous stream of events that is processed in real-time as it’s received. This allows applications to respond to events as they occur. It combines real-time analytics, inferencing and monitoring to achieve things like optimizing transportation routes, understanding traffic patterns, anomaly detection in cyber security, making real-time predictions powered by machine learning, and even location-based advertising.

In terms of architecture, we’ve covered how microservices and containers are also driving the multi-cloud trend as microservices often span multiple clouds. You can find this write-up here on Forbes and also here on Medium, where we discussed a background on Google Cloud and how the company was the first to automate orchestration across containers. This write-up provides a great overview of where the major cloud IaaS providers are today and where they might go next strategically speaking.

Big Data and Analytics will Explode because of AI/ML Applications

There is an oft-quoted statistic that 90% of the world’s data was created in the last two years – and this stat is from 2018. The world produces 44 zetabytes of data across the digital universe as of 2020 and there is expected to be 200+ zetabytes of data in cloud storage by 2025. Each zettabyte has 21 zeroes or is 1,000 bytes to the 7th power. By these estimates, we can expect to see up to 5X growth specifically in data centers. Statista places the number at 181 zetabytes by 2025 up from 64.2 zettabytes in 2020.

In regards to data integration in the cloud, this spans from data lakes, to ETL pipelines, cloud data warehouses and object storage. Data fabrics and data virtualization is key to both hybrid and multi-cloud strategies.

Here's how Datadog’s CEO describes what is going on in terms of big data in the most recent earnings call: “it's almost a given that there will need to be a different way of charging for capturing some of the value provided to customers that can't just be attached to the straight volumes of data that are being exchanged because those volume of data are exploding exponentially while our customers' revenues are not going to explode exponentially.”

Generating the data is not the issue (clearly), and distributed data storage has been largely solved with Hadoop. I think it’s worth going through what Hadoop is and how it came about, and then we can look at how Apache Spark helped accelerate data processing, including for Machine Learning. Notably, most open-source projects are not “easy” and this is why companies do well that simplify how to work with Apache Spark and other frameworks, like Kafka.

Background on Hadoop and Data Storage:

Hadoop became instrumental in helping companies store large amounts of structured data, semi-structured and unstructured data through distributed storage and compute. The result was that data storage became cheap enough to retain any/all data that was generated rather than only the essential data due to its distributed file system. The distributed file system was designed to store and process billions of search engine pages across thousands of nodes. The project was created in 2006 by a team of engineers at Yahoo, who had worked previously on a search engine in the early 2000s with the goal of indexing 1 billion pages.

You can think of search engines as some of the first projects that needed to utilize Big Data. The original search engine project “Nutch was limited to 20-to-40 node clusters, and for this amount of data, more clusters were needed. At Yahoo, the team separated the distributed computing parts from Nutch and renamed the project Hadoop, which successfully worked on thousands of nodes. Parallelism was key for the data processing model as Yahoo’s algorithm would need to be run on multiple nodes at the same time and it had to scale linearly. It was then released in 2008 as an open-source project with up to 4000 nodes with distributed capacity with contributors such as Facebook and LinkedIN.

Distributed systems and parallel computing didn’t begin with Yahoo, of course, it began with Google. The paper “MapReduce: Simplified Data Processing on Large Clusters” is considered a defining moment in how programming models handled large data sets. MapReduce was a key moment because it was specifically designed to handle Big Data in terabytes and petabytes due to its framework for parallel computation using a key-value pair.

By 2012, Hadoop’s clusters were up to 42,000 nodes and the number of contributors had reached nearly 1500. Apache Hive is a ETL and data warehouse tool that uses SQL, but Hadoop can manage and process large volumes of data that are structured, unstructured or semi-structured data depending on the database that is chosen. Therefore, you can use many tools with Hadoop, such as Spark.

Background on Apache Spark and Data Processing for Machine Learning:

In 2014, Apache Spark was released which took over the MapReduce model primarily because of its speed. By working with data in-memory, the parallel processing framework can push queries 100X faster and on-disk queries run 10X faster. After the extract, transform and load the data (ETL) process, with Spark you can run a training algorithm on the same in-memory data. This helps Spark reach peak performance over competitors for ETL and relational queries, but also for machine learning. Spark’s goal was to become (and now remain) the general platform for distributed programmers where many specialized systems have one interface and one system to install and manage. Apache Spark also reduces code volume by using APIs for Scala, Java and Python. The framework offers a unified API for fault-tolerant stream processing, which reduces the number of APIs to learn. Spark ML and SparkML are the two APIs that are offered for machine learning pipelines.

Hadoop helped solve some of the data storage issues and reduced the cost for expensive storage and compute. Therefore, the next issue is who can work with these databases and can this be simplified. Apache Spark simplifies who can work with the framework by supporting libraries, which can be executed to interact with data shared across many libraries. The data processing engine is extremely fast because it processes and keeps the data in-memory without reading or writing to disk. This has resulted in Apache Spark becoming popular for machine learning and AI applications with the support of Apache’s very large community of contributors.

Overview of Public Companies in the Big Data and Analytics Space

Databricks and Snowflake:

I’m starting with Databricks and Snowflake simply because we discussed Apache Spark in this analysis. The founders of Apache Spark are from Berkeley and later went onto become the founders of Databricks. We covered this company in-depth on our Snowflake analysis because we feel this is Snowflake’s strongest competitor (i.e., not traditional SQL warehouses or Big Tech). Databricks is not public right now but plans to go public soon.

Here is a summary of the explanation we published in April as to how these two companies compare:

The major difference between Snowflake and Databricks from a customer standpoint is that Snowflake is laser-focused on the public cloud/cloud native while Databricks is differentiated in that it can build information pipelines across silos, including on-premise and hybrid architectures. As we know from this analysis, hybrid is key moving forward.

Snowflake's main value proposition is to reduce the time required to prep and monitor data so that a customer does not need to manage software or hardware. Even if a team has the technical skills, they may not want to spend the time required for Databricks, which is perhaps one reason why Snowflake is reporting decent growth in the Fortune 500 and other key accounts.

The architecture of a data lakehouse allows for business intelligence and machine learning through a more open paradigm. The idea is to combine the best of data warehouses and data lakes to span unstructured and semi-structured data while keeping costs low. By combining both, teams can move faster and without duplicating the data. This is a key benefit to Databricks DeltaLake, and this is especially important for data analytics and machine learning. With that said, Databricks is more advanced and expert-level.

I want to point out that Snowflake is very clear as to why it's done well – which is that it handles migrations to the public cloud from legacy on-premise systems better than the competitors. Snowflake's priority is to compete with other SQL databases right now, although the company will need to eventually compete with Databricks. Management has discussed rolling out support for unstructured data, for instance, but no timeline has been set.

Looking longer-term, what Snowflake needs to answer is how will it compete with Databricks on machine learning? Databricks is superior here for ML as it’s built on top of Apache Spark and supports Spark, Python, Scala and also SQL. This was discussed in the thread on the forum here.

The forum thread points out that Databricks is more complex to upload the data, monitor and manage, but there are benefits to going through this hassle. One of the primary benefits is support for Python and Scala, which are programming languages for machine learning. For now, you must use an outside vendor or tool as connectors or integrations in order to support these programming languages and libraries with Snowflake. It’s also worth mentioning that Databricks is cheaper for processing a lot of data at petabyte scale.

Growth is the great equalizer when comparing products and my preliminary understanding is that Snowflake is growing much faster than Databricks and expects to continue to outpace the competitor. I will need to look into Databrick’s financials and see an earnings report or two to determine more about the competitor’s sustained growth rate.

What I find to be very intriguing is what Snowflake will do to compete on ML. This gap in product capability is not lost on the Snowflake team and management. Being laser-focused on the public cloud/cloud-native lends itself well for Snowflake to compete here theoretically, yet its laser-focus on SQL is getting in the way strategically speaking. The company is aware of this and plans to roll out support for unstructured data.

We have two strong products here yet the valuation on Snowflake is stretched and I imagine Databricks will be, too. It’s rare to see a company sustain higher than a 40 or a 50 forward P/S for an extended period of time. Right now, Snowflake is at a 79 forward P/S.

MongoDB:

Big Data applications require a flexible data model, which NoSQL supports. MongoDB is a database that can handle unstructured and semi-structured data, whereas SQL competitors require data to be structured and stored in tables. The predefined schema of the relational database is correlated due to common characteristics. SQL is well-supported as the original database management type yet NoSQL is also reaching critical mass.

The reason NoSQL has risen in popularity is because as data grows, there are more data types to work with outside of Excel spreadsheets/CSV or tabular structures. MongoDB and its competitors are a good choice for Big Data because NoSQL databases can process unpredictable and unstructured data. The most popular types of NoSQL databases include graph, key-value pairs, columnar and document.

Moving forward, we think NoSQL is going to take more market share, simply because it saves steps when dealing with Big Data as the unstructured data does not need to be converted and this is preferred for some machine learning models. This is why NoSQL is used by companies that generate the most data, like Amazon, Facebook, LinkedIN and Google. The extra bonus is that the JSON documents in NoSQL databases can be prepared for machine learning. Because you do not have to define a schema, this allows data to be directly loaded from any new source without changing lines of code. SQL is used in training machine learning models with most of this data coming from on-premise servers. Therefore, the migration to the cloud and various types of data that are generated is also helpful for companies like MongoDB in growing market share. This is because the cloud produces various forms of data.

MongoDB has a query language and secondary indexes for specific values to filter, sort and aggregate data. The leading NoSQL database also allows for the storage and retrieval of trained models as JSON documents. In this case, you can query MongoDB to pull up a previous model.

In the multi-cloud trend, MongoDB is a leader here as the company was the first cloud database to run applications simultaneously on all major cloud providers. The multi-cloud clusters allow developers to deploy applications across multiple cloud providers without having to manage the complexity. In addition, the technical team at MongoDB maintains that you can forego Hadoop and Spark, which requires complex functions and logic, and instead rely on Tensorflow.js, MongoDB and a browser for the same level of machine learning but with less complexity. In an example, a MongoDB representative was able to write a ML program with 88 lines of code. With that said, NoSQL requires more expertise than the universal language of SQL.

The takeaway is that Big Data companies prefer NoSQL for many reasons, and we think in the era of ML and AI, that more companies will lean towards having similar requirements as Big Data companies. This isn’t to say that SQL isn’t alive and well due to the sheer amount of support for structured data across various database systems. Financial transactions for instance fit well into SQL. This is not a “SQL will die” discussion, instead it’s a “NoSQL may see a bigger market thanks to big data and the sheer amounts of unstructured and semi-structured data that will continue to grow” discussion.

Although the SQL and NoSQL debate has lingered for some time with SQL being the leading database today, requirements may change and we think MDB is positioned well for this shift.                                                                                                                                                                                

Also, refer to the fact that MongoDB is fifth in terms of database market share yet is tied for first place for most wanted database skills among software developers. Notably, MySQL and Oracle are the top database systems globally yet MySQL is fifth in terms of most wanted database skills. The demand for talent is typically an important indicator of where we are now and where the puck is going.

You can read more about MongoDB here in our deep dive research report including more details on Atlas.

Confluent:

The founding team of Apache Kafka worked at LInkedIN before leaving to start Confluent. Apache Kafka is used by thousands of companies for message streaming, such as LinkedIN, where a publish/subscribe model allows applications to share and create data in a serverless and microservices architecture. What Kafka solved for is the ingestion of events data in real-time and with low latency.

At the time that Kafka was developed, LinkedIN was ingesting 1 billion events a day. The company is now ingesting 1 trillion per day. Kafka does this through a log that writes messages to a topic and is able to retain messages for a long time. Kafka is also used in stream processing by parallelizing the pipelines. Kafka Streams were built to increase simplicity while retaining the same amount of performance as a Spark streaming job.

As with Spark and other open-source projects, there is a marketplace for making the frameworks easier to use. Confluent Kafka opens up the amount of data that can be integrated, for example, to combine transactional data (orders, inventory) with sentiment-driven data (likes, page clicks). This helps with predictive analytics and also machine learning because the “data flow” allows for algorithms to work as they are intended to. This is what is meant by the title slide of the S-1 filing “Set Data in Motion.” In order for data to be in motion, Confluent’s platform connects data from many different sources.

The end result for Confluent is that the company allows large amounts of data to be moved very quickly. This is needed for machine learning algorithms that are very data hungry. Kafka can be paired with Apache Spark and Apache Samza to route data and then load it into ElasticSearch, for instance, so it’s a bridge (or a nervous system according to Confluent’s marketing department).

The goal of Confluent is to reduce operational complexity. In the case of Kafka Streams, this is done by not requiring a cluster to be spun up, offering a single framework for streams of events, and reducing the number of pieces in a stream architecture. Confluent Cloud is growing rapidly at 200% year-over-year, primarily driven by event streaming.

Please note, that Confluent is on a partial lockup schedule. The partial lockup dates are 15% on the day of the IPO (June 24th), 25% on the second day of trading (August 09th) after the Q2 earnings, with the remaining at the earlier of the second day of trading after Q3 earnings and 181 days of the IPO.My note: Already up to 40% of the shares have already been released by the eligible employees. The full lock-up expiry is between November and December..

Elastic:

Elastic is a best-of-breed search company that has other benefits, as well. Elasticsearch is the core product that allows for the searching, storing and analyzing of data. This allows developers to build search features that pair Uber passengers with drivers, recommend grocery items on Instacart based on your history, match online data profiles for Tinder, or log events for Fitbit at a rate of 250,000 logs per second. In addition to searching and storing data, Logstash and Beats are ingestion tools to ingest data from applications and to query external systems. Kibana is an open-source tool for visualizing the data. We’ve covered Elastic Stack in more detail here.

Since 2018, the Elastic License has been free and open source with paid proprietary features. As Bradley detailed in this write-up, Amazon began to profit from Elastic’s open-source software and did not contribute back. According to Elastic, over 90% of new downloads choose Elastic’s License. As of January 2021, the company dual-licensed Elasticsearch and Kibana under SSPL or “Server Side Public License,” which requires Amazon or any others to publish modifications and the entirety of their source code. We think the multi-cloud trend is one reason that Elastic has been able to overcome Amazon as the primary driver is to avoid vendor lock-in. Notably, Elastic is cloud neutral so it does not rely on any specific external services for machine learning like AWS’s OpenSearch. Basically, this goes back to the points we made about multi-cloud earlier in this analysis.

We also discussed Elastic’s move into XDR is important because security is a primary concern for those who are on multi-cloud deployments. The SIEM and XDR space is not without its competitors yet it could be Elastic’s combination of already having ingestion tools for thousands of applications and sensors that lends itself well to monitoring and detection. SIEM is security, information and event management while XDR stands for extended, detection and response (XDR). SIEM was first used as a compliance product and often works alongside endpoint and network security products in order to offer a narrower yet deeper set of activity. This last piece has become critical over time. For Elastic’s product, XDR builds on the SIEM and EDR (endpoints) combination for more accuracy and applies machine learning models to detect anomalies.

Where there is data, there will be new opportunities for growth as the AI/ML landscape goes from nascent to mature (i.e. not all uses cases have arrived for big data and analytics companies). Due to Elastic being essentially a pretrained model for extracting keywords and synonyms and “term co-occurrences”, it lends itself well to natural language processing (NLP). With Elastic, terms can be filtered by significance and offer out-of-the box shortcuts to Python with its REST API. Cognitive search is a new form of search that uses AI to improve search queries and to extract information from multiple data sets. Cognitive search can combine a traditional search engine with NLP to extract more useful information since keyword search is limited in the variety of data that can be searched. Cognitive search uses machine learning algorithms for its greatly improved search results and will be a $6 billion market by 2025. We think it's impressive that Elastic was named a Leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for cognitive search in the first year it was added as a new entrant, blowing past Microsoft, AWS and even Google.

Conclusion:

I wanted to cover Big Data and Analytics broadly and horizontally rather than vertically by company because it paints a better picture of what we are positioning for and why. It’s easy to get lost in the jargon when discussing companies individually especially with technical companies like these. But what really separates each of them? We think the side-by-side comparison can be more conducive at times when setting up a microtrend.

We had a few goals with this analysis that I hope we accomplished:

  • Bring to your attention this trend (and the common thread) and pull-out names from the general “cloud” list to discuss why they may have a unique catalyst. There will be many winners in this space and we are limited in terms of number of positions we can enter. It’s easy to get caught up in “stock picks” yet we also want to offer you microtrends to help inform your individual portfolio decisions.
  • We think big data and analytics from best-of-breed companies could become a solid post-covid cloud play due to the sheer number of companies that migrated to the cloud yet have multi-cloud and hybrid deployments
  • Third, I want to make sure and elaborate on where the MongoDB, Confluent and Elastic positions are coming from that the I/O Fund recently entered. We offer deep dives on companies but we also want to anchor our readers with the underlying microtrends that we are investing in. For instance, Snowflake is a great choice, yet the valuation is high and that range above 50 has not treated us well in the past (i.e., personal choice). Perhaps for your investment profile, you prefer Snowflake right now, etc.

This is a big space and it’d be impossible for me to cover everything but we pulled out the critical pieces. We think it’s important to simplify the key drivers of a microtrend and illustrate the ways that specific companies are serving the trend. You can expect to see MongoDB and perhaps Confluent added to the LTBH portfolio as the thesis should take about 3-5 years to fully play out. The main thing to know is this means we will have to remove a name or two from the current LTBH portfolio. We will keep you in the loop as we weigh these decisions.

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Earnings Update: TWLO, DDOG, MGNI and ROKU

Posted on May 10, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

If you want to see Knox’s recent thoughts on the market, please click here. He wrote out a long explanation on the forum as to what he’s seeing and correlates this to inter-market analysis, including money flow, breadth and sector rotations.

Below, I discuss TWLO, DDOG, MGNI and ROKU. We review what was pertinent from the earnings reports. Our thesis has not changed on these 4 companies.

Also, I have a LTBH webinar planned for next Monday to go over the IDFA changes from Apple with a highlight on Magnite and also Roku. We will briefly touch base on all ad-tech stocks we own and IDFA but this is mainly a CTV ads webinar from the product perspective. I’ll send instructions on the LTBH webinar mid-week.

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Twilio:

We recently had our second LTBH webinar on Twilio. I thought it was important to highlight this company for the important pivot taking place. In the webinar, we stressed the first-party customer data platform and why this was an important strategic approach for a company that has PII from phone numbers in its core product and PII from emails from the SendGrid acquisition. The vehicle to maximize Twilio’s position is Segment, and the company is showing us very clearly the future for by separating R&D into three departments and placing the former CEO of Segment in charge of two of those departments.

The earnings call also communicated the importance of Segment with management stating two-thirds of their sales calls centered around this product. There was an analyst on the call who nearly verbatim discussed what we talked about on our webinar. I find management’s response encouraging as to the accuracy of our thesis (and, I guess good to know that Alex Zukin shares in this exact thesis).

Alex ZukinAlex Zukin

That makes perfect sense. And then another again kind of big picture question, if you think about the rise of IDFA, the demise of – potential demise of third party cookies, it's our thesis that we're entering the world where the notion of CDP for first-party data is going to rapidly accelerate in strategic performance.

You guys mentioned – I think George you mentioned that Segment is now in two thirds or was in two thirds of your customer conversations. I guess a couple of angles around this question. Is this something – is this future world something you contemplated when making that acquisition? Are you, you know just now reaping even greater amount of strategic benefit? Just talk to us about how you think about segments in this new world, both integrated with the rest of your solutions as part of the platform, but also on a stand-alone basis with respect to Strategic impact to all these things.

Jeff LawsonJeff Lawson

This is Jeff. I'll answer, unless George, you want to?

George HuGeorge Hu

Go ahead, Jeff. I'll chime in.

Jeff LawsonJeff Lawson

Well, I'll give my point of view and I'll let George give his point of view. You know collaboration is the answer and is harder in this virtual world.

My point of view is yes, you know we did think about the importance of first party data and how every company is having to become great digital marketers and great digital executors, and you can't necessarily rely on some of the, let's say, sloppier ways of acquiring and re-engaging your customers when you've got a lot of third party data floating around that. So we did believe – we do believe that the CDP market in and of itself as a standalone becomes ever more important to companies, not just because of the plurality of systems you have to figure out how to make sense of, but also because outside their walls it's getting more complex to actually target and reach your own customers.So it becomes even more important that once you meet a customer, so there's your marketing and they buy something or whatever it is, you do a really good job of continually engaging them, because going back out to kind of reacquire that customer is getting harder and harder and harder. And so companies have to treat their existing customers incredibly well, and those relationships are getting even more valuable. And then you add in all the value of – and then integrating that and creating that journey that's going to achieve that using Twilio's customer engagement cloud, that is the next level of benefit on top of the core CDP.

Twilio grew revenue 62% year-over-year for $590 million and guided for $596 million next quarter, or 49% year-over-year at the midpoint. This represents a 4% raise above consensus estimates of $579 million, according to FactSet.

Adjusted EPS came in at $0.05, or $0.15 ahead of estimates. Active customer accounts totaled 235,000 at the end of the Q1 compared to 190,000 in 2020, representing 24% growth YoY.  Dollar-based net expansion rate came in at 133% for the quarter compared to an organic DBNER of 135% in Q1 of 2020.  Gross margins were 55% for the quarter and the company recorded a -2% free cash flow margin.    

The blemish on the report was Twilio’s forward EPS as the company guided for adjusted losses of $0.14 per share compared to analyst expectations of adjusted losses of 4 cents per share. We posted on the forum that this does not concern us as the company had planned investments that did not materialize in 2020 due to Covid. These investments are focused on enterprise sales, flex and new growth products, plus core systems and infrastructure. Twilio management expects these investments to generate losses in the short term, but in the long term it will allow the company to grow at elevated levels.

Additional Research:

Twilio 2021 PDF here

Twilio 2019 PDF here

Datadog:

Datadog allows us exposure to the market that AWS, Azure and Google Cloud participates in but with a pureplay. If the tech giants are communicating that cloud infrastructure-as-a-service is one of the most critical markets in the future, then who are we to argue with this by not investing in the leader across cloud monitoring products?

The company capitalizes on the trend that vendor-specific is becoming unpopular due to issues that vendor lock-in creates. On the flip side, the company competes with open-source options, such as OpenTelemetry.

Here is what the company stated as to why customers choose Datadog in light of many competitors: “We lean into open-source format and libraries to instrument obligations for a very long time. And we support a large number of them. The way we see the problem is not like what matters is not with technology we use to get from here to there. What matters is to solve the end-to-end problem for our customers. And to make it as easy as possible for them to just plug us in and everything just work everything to show that we don’t get our mess, a gigantic mess with all these different technologies and applications and clouds, everything else. We turn that into something that the understanding is well ordered, without any effort.”What matters is to solve the end-to-end problem for our customers. And to make it as easy as possible for them to just plug us in and everything just work everything to show that we don’t get our mess, a gigantic mess with all these different technologies and applications and clouds, everything else. We turn that into something that the understanding is well ordered, without any effort.”

Datadog deserves an updated LTBH report as the product has evolved since we last covered the company with the acquisition of Sqreen. Keep an eye out for this after we get through cloud earnings.

I had said on a Motley Fool podcast in February that we faced a unique environment for cloud stocks this year with a tight pack of cloud stocks guiding between 20-30% and then another tight pack guiding between 30-40% on forward growth. Only Snowflake and Kingsoft Cloud were guiding higher than 50%. We provided a chart here. This is unusual as cloud guidance usually tells us our leaders in advance. Tougher comps from last year require cloud companies to show endurance and prove that any growth last year was not a pull forward from the one-time event of Covid.

You can view my explanation of cloud valuations going into 2021 here at minute 2:15 – YouTube linkYouTube link

What we want to see are cloud companies breaking through the ceiling of 40% growth. That is exactly what Datadog did this quarter and also provided >40% guidance for next quarter and full-year guidance, as well.

Notably, the tone on the earnings call was that their guidance is conservative in light of many unknowns. I can’t guarantee this but I’m hoping to see Datadog come in above guidance in the future, per comments like this: “Now, some notes on our guidance, while usage growth was strong in Q1, when providing guidance as usual, we use more conservative assumptions.”, we use more conservative assumptions.”

The company grew revenue 51% YoY to $198.5M, representing a 6% beat above consensus estimates.  Management attributed the revenue beat in Q1 to stronger than expected usage growth from existing customers. On the bottom line, EPS came in at $0.06, topping consensus estimates by $0.03.  The company logged a record EBITDA total of $24M in the quarter and free cash flow of $44M (22% FCF Margin). 

Customers with $100K+ ARR totaled 1,437 at the end of Q1, representing growth of 50% YoY.  These customers generate over 75% of Datadog’s ARR.

 

Additionally, Datadog announced that 75% of its customers are using two or more products at the end of Q1.  This is up from 63% in Q1 of 2020. 

For Q2, Datadog guided for $212M of revenue, or 51% year-over-year at the midpoint, beating the consensus estimate by 8%. The company is expecting $0.03 of EPS and $10M of operating income in Q2. 

For the FY21, DDOG raised revenue guidance to $885M, or 47% year-over-year at the midpoint, and 6% above consensus estimates. The company is expecting EPS of $0.15 and operating income of $50M for the full year.             

I touch on Datadog here around minute 53:00 – click here for YouTube link

Additional Research:
Datadog Premium Research
H1 2021 Cloud Software Update

Magnite:

We laid out our thoughts here on Magnite and our conviction and thesis remains the same. We go over why Magnite’s Q1 report came in weaker than expected and why we aren’t concerned as management has provided enough statements Q2’s guidance being stronger than expected. We take short-term misses as long as guidance remains strong and the story is intact.

Per my post on the forum, I do believe some of the weakness we saw in ad-tech today is due to IDFA changes from the April 30th iOS update. There was a report from Flurry, as reported by Mashable, over the weekend that stated “only 4 percent of iOS users in the United States let apps track them.” Here’s the full post from Flurry. I believe this partly caused the weakness today in TTD, MGNI, Unity plus other ad-tech companies as there is a lot of confusion in regards to IDFA.

On one hand, we have companies like Unity saying it’ll impact low single digits for their revenue, and on the other hand we see sensational comments from mobile analysts that this is an Apocalypse and “Book of Revelation” stuff  

I’ve been covering the IDFA specifically since October of 2019 after attending Advertising Week and I followed up again in 2020 with free version here. I also covered Facebook’s tracking behaviors in-depth for public investors around Q1 2018, when I criticized the company for not talking about Audience Network in their earnings calls (the IDFA threatens Facebook’s Audience Network the most). 

As the lead technology analyst at the I/O Fund, I made sure my readers were up to speed on the IDFA, such as the July 2020 Update and also here when I first covered Magnite. 

With that said, I don’t think information is easily accessible to public investors on this topic, and meanwhile, iOS 14.5 rolled out at the end of April. Therefore, seeing the reaction to Magnite and The Trade Desk today, Citi’s downgrade, and Flurry’s report, I think it makes sense to have our next LTBH webinar on the IDFA this Monday with a primary focus on Magnite and Roku but we will touch on other ad-tech stocks we own too (Unity, Snap, Pinterest, etcetera).

The summary of my thoughts can be found in the links above if you want the information before Monday. Similar to the tide of all boats, I believe we will see the supply side come out better than the demand side – but that’s my personal opinion and the way that we’ve structured I/O Fund with our positions. I’ll present the information from a product perspective and you can make your own conclusions when we review this on Monday.

Although I don’t think it will be Apocalypse, I do believe it will affect the ad industry enough that we should do the next LTBH webinar on this topic. We will dive deeper into Magnite and Roku, as well.

Magnite’s Earnings:

I had said that Magnite is not the “shiniest company to analyze if you’re a financial analyst” and this earnings report validated that statement. There have been two acquisitions and a major rebranding, so what we really have is really three companies reporting earnings: Telaria, Rubicon and SpotX.

Magnite reported revenue growth of 67%, up 18% on a pro-forma basis. CTV revenue was up 32% on a pro-forma basis or $12 million. Compare this to last quarter’s report which was 69% revenue growth, up 20% on a pro-forma basis, with CTV revenue up 53% on a pro-forma basis, or $15.4 million. Therefore, Q1 was meaningfully weaker than Q4 on CTV (more on this below).

The company was profitable on an adjusted basis at $0.03 EPS compared to a loss of $0.06 EPS in the year-ago quarter.

SpotX results showed considerable strength on CTV with overall revenue excluding traffic acquisition costs of $31.2 million. CTV revenue was at $19.7 million, up 70% year-over-year.

Management is guiding for revenue of $94 million with CTV revenue of $32 million, at the midpoint. This represents 90% growth if the company had closed the acquisition on SpotX on April 1st rather than April 30th. The company raised its long-term revenue targets from 20% to 25% and had raised long-term adjusted EBITDA targets to 30% to 35% in the last quarter.

This comment here provides color for the weaker-than-expected CTV revenue:

Yes, so I think, March was a bit of a disappointment for us at Magnite. I think if you look at the combined company going forward, you're just going to have a greater line of CTV products that each kind of address a different sliver of the marketplace. We talked a bit about the SpotX managed service business, which was able to extract linear dollars into CTV capability that we did not build out at Magnite, but saw as something incredibly attractive in its products, along with a few other products. But as we said, severe acceleration in Q2 for Magnite's business, and if you look at the two combined, you're 90% plus growth range for Q2. So, so all is well there.which was able to extract linear dollars into CTV capability that we did not build out at Magnite, but saw as something incredibly attractive in its products, along with a few other products. But as we said, severe acceleration in Q2 for Magnite's business, and if you look at the two combined, you're 90% plus growth range for Q2. So, so all is well there.

Another analyst also asked about March, which management provided this answer:

Suffice to say, Magnite is growing in terms of — its back to where we always thought it would be and then some. So, I think that this isn't a case of — in q2, particularly SpotX coming in and saving the show, if you will, I think both are growing exceptionally well. And any kind of slowdown that we witness in Magnite in March has been more than made up for, but David, do you have any more color to bring to that?its back to where we always thought it would be and then some. So, I think that this isn't a case of — in q2, particularly SpotX coming in and saving the show, if you will, I think both are growing exceptionally well. And any kind of slowdown that we witness in Magnite in March has been more than made up for, but David, do you have any more color to bring to that?

And there was yet another question about the weaker guidance in March. Management stressed how early in the cycle the Connected TV market is and how some inventory is still being sold direct versus programmatic.

So, I think that there's in any kind of nascent marketplace and CTV is certainly nascent … I would say that Q2 is behaving what in excess of what we would have thought going into it, and that Q1 was strong going in, and then had a weaker March. And, again, probably a handful of reasons there, but nothing systemic or anything that takes the bloom off the rose in terms of our position in CTV or the attractiveness of that marketplace.

As I said, we are comfortable with short-term misses as long as the story is intact and guidance remains strong. There was also more to the earnings call in terms of IDFA, which we will unpack during the upcoming webinar on Monday.

Past Magnite Research here

Roku:

I’ve written a library of research about this company from very early-on. If you want more information as to how we arrived here, I encourage you to read my analysis as it dates back to a time when the market doubted Roku and we withstood two 60% drawdowns.

On that note, Roku is the perfect example of how long it takes for a trend to play out. While many investors are conditioned for instant gratification following last year, we know that tech trends are a 3-5 year exit or longer. In the meantime, our job is to make sure a company is consistently reporting along the thesis we’ve laid out.

Here’s what I want to emphasize: the 3-5 year investment period for Roku begins this year. If someone were to learn about Roku for the first time today, I’d say they’re right on time. In fact, there is less risk now as Roku is a mature and consistent performer. As an analyst, I’m on cruise control with this stock as it’s been performing as we laid out nearly three years ago.

Rarely, do we get a full-stack opportunity that is centered in the middle of a future trend. It’s my belief that Apple’s IDFA deprecation will positively impact Roku – and I hope a few others we have picked out too.

That’s what my library of research answered through the past few years. We will touch on this in the upcoming webinar, as well. The simple answer is Roku delivers the targeting capabilities of mobile with the completion rates of Pay TV. This was outlined in May of 2018.

“For example, according to Nielsen in March, ratings, linear TV ratings for adults 18 to 24 was down 22%. Q1 TV ad spending was down 11% and according to Media Radar. Meanwhile, we doubled, monetized video ad impressions on the platform, ad spending by major agency holding companies with Roku more than doubled. We saw strength really up and down the ad business.”linear TV ratings for adults 18 to 24 was down 22%. Q1 TV ad spending was down 11% and according to Media Radar. Meanwhile, we doubled, monetized video ad impressions on the platform, ad spending by major agency holding companies with Roku more than doubled. We saw strength really up and down the ad business.”

Since my coverage began, Roku has become an even bigger force in the Connected TV ad space. OneView is Roku’s move into the demand side while The Roku Channel provides original content to optimize ad formats.

This sums up some of Roku’s strength competitively speaking:

I will say that the use of OneView to buy media on Roku, whether that's media we're selling, for example, a video ad that runs in The Roku Channel or an ad bought from a publisher on Roku through one year. That segment is growing even faster because, of course, we have data and identity and optimization capabilities to help them do that better than were they to buy through a third-party DSP.we have data and identity and optimization capabilities to help them do that better than were they to buy through a third-party DSP.

And also here …

“The second part of your question was about volume and CPMs. Our product remains a premium product. If anything, we've added, better data, better targeting, better measurement, newer ad products over time. And I think that, that bodes well for continuing to be able to command premium CPMs, but I will also call out to the earlier question from Ralph that streaming is increasingly also a performance media.”we've added, better data, better targeting, better measurement, newer ad products over time. And I think that, that bodes well for continuing to be able to command premium CPMs, but I will also call out to the earlier question from Ralph that streaming is increasingly also a performance media.”

Roku also recently acquired Nielsen’s advanced video advertising business and is expected to close in Q2 2021. The automatic content recognition and dynamic ad insertion will help Roku show different ads to different households based on Nielsen data.

We’ve written quite a bit on Roku and I hesitate to spend more time on the company when we have other stocks we are forming a thesis on and/or need a reiteration of our conviction. However, that should not be confused for lack of conviction by any means as Roku has received my highest conviction for some time and continues to.

Here’s a clip we created of me explaining Roku in October of last year – view on YouTube here.

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On Earnings …

Roku delivered excellent Q1 results on May 6th led by strong growth in advertising and the expansion of content distribution partnerships. Total revenue grew 79% YoY to $574.2M, representing a 17% beat above consensus estimates. 

The growth was led by platform revenue, which increased 101% YoY to $466.5M. Gross profit rose 132% YoY to $326.8M while operating income came in at $75.8M after negative operating income $55.2M in the year-ago quarter. 

Roku also announced positive EBITDA of $125.9M in Q1 from a loss of $16.3M in the year-ago quarter. Roku added 2.4M active accounts in Q1 to reach 53.6M in total, representing 35% growth YoY. 

Streaming Hours increased 49% YoY to 18.3 billion, while average revenue per user (ARPU) grew 32% YoY to $32.14. 

For Q2, Roku management is guiding for $615M of revenue at the midpoint (73% YoY growth), representing a 13% raise above consensus estimates. The company is also guiding for total gross profit to rise 104% YoY to $300M and EBITDA of $65M after recording negative EBITDA of $3M in Q2 ’20. 

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Micron: Premium Research

Posted on May 1, 2020June 30, 2026 by io-fund

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Micron: Premium Research

Micron Overview:

Our goal is to catch Micron for the 2021 rebound which is likely delayed a year from the anticipated 2020 rebound. This rebound should occur when high-end smartphones are released again and the automotive market comes back to help drive demand in embedded DRAM. Mobile and automotive are the hardest hit segments in 2020. Data center segment remains strong.

Due to the cyclical nature of memory and storage, Micron is likely to become a 1-2 year holding rather than a permanent buy-and-hold.

Product:

Micron is the only company in the world with a portfolio of DRAM, NAND, and 3D XPoint technologies. X100 is the fastest storage device in the world. The company has also entered into a new 3D XPoint wafer sale agreement with Intel that replaces the previous agreements.

In the most recent fiscal year, DRAM comprised two-thirds of Micron’s revenue and NAND one-third of revenue.

NAND memory saves data even when the power is removed, such as when a cell phone is turned off. DRAM only saves memory when a device has power but is much faster than NAND and lasts longer. Beyond mobile devices, NAND is found in traffic lights, digital advertising panels/displays, and anything with artificial intelligence that needs to store data.

As covered in the Lam Research report, NAND has been around since the 1980s but got a much-needed boost from 3D NAND, which stacks vertical chips. Historically, Micron focused on DRAM for PCs and servers an expanded into NAND over the past ten years.

One risk to Micron is the thin moat as competitors Samsung and SK Hynix outpace Micron in total memory/storage shipments. With little differentiation, these companies have pricing wars with Samsung generally considered the industry leader. Toshiba and Western Digital (SanDisk) are also competitors.

This is one reason Micron continues to invest in R&D in products such as 128-layer 3D NAND, 3D XPoint and also 1Z-nanometer DRAM.

“The Memory Guy” Jim Handy has a great write-up describing how Micron has improved its profitability in the DRAM market. His analysis points towards Micron holding a leadership position in 1Znm production over Samsung and Hynix. The new DRAM was introduced at CES and is geared towards the server and hyperscale markets.

One of the bull cases for Micron right now is DRAM and NAND pricing, which is high due to low inventory and previous capex cuts. There is low supply right now regardless of contracting demand. Prior to Covid-19, the market believed pricing had bottomed in 2019.

Micron is one of the most volatile semiconductor stocks with lows around $10 in 2016 and highs around $60 in 2018. Regarding valuation, the stock is trading at double its current PE ratio as 2019 and similar forward PE ratio as 2019. The issue here is any data center strength may not be able to offset the weakness in the mobile and automotive segment.

Historically, buying Micron at a price-to-book value of 1 has done well. The stock is currently trading at a price-tobook of 1.439.

Micron Financials:

In the most recent quarter ending in February, Micron’s revenue beat estimates yet fell 18% year-over-year to $4.80 billion. Revenue was down 7% from $5.14 billion quarter-over-quarter. TTM revenue was $19.6 billion with non-GAAP net income of $2.9 billion, or $2.54 EPS.

DRAM sales were down 11% sequentially and NAND sales were up 6% sequentially. DRAM was impacted by flat sales prices and lower bit shipments.

Earnings were also down YoY with Micron reporting GAAP net income of $405 million, or $0.36 EPS, compared to $1.62 billion, or $1.42 EPS in the year-ago quarter and $0.45 EPS last quarter. Non-GAAP income of $517 million or $0.45 per share beat estimates by $0.08 compared to $1.71 EPS.

Capital expenditures were $1.94 billion in Q2 2020. Management expects FY 2020 capex to be $7 to $8 billion. For fiscal Q2 ending in February, the company had cash and investments of $8.12 billion with a net cash position of $2.7 billion. The company has about $5 billion in long term debt. Recently, Micron drew on a $2.5 billion revolver to have cash on hand.

Margins are decreasing with gross margins of 28% in Q2 2020 compared to 49% in Q2 2019. Operating margins were at 9.2% in the most recent quarter compared to 33.5% in the year-ago quarter.

The median forecast for FY 2020 ending in August is $20.11 billion, down 14.7% year-over-year.

The median forecast for FY 2021 is $24.49 billion, up 21.74% year-over-year. Forward estimates for EPS of $4.90 for FY 2021 will represent an increase of 124% YoY.

QLC SSD bit shipments rose 60% sequentially in the 2Q FY2020. The company expects QLC SSD to grow in the 2H 2020.

The company began to deliver LP5 mobile DRAM products to customers including Xiaomi, which is using LP5 in its 5G-capable Mi smartphones in 8GB and 12GM configurations.

In the graphics market, GDDR6 bit shipments increased more than 40% q-o-q. In the new gaming consoles the company will deploy SSD’s in place of hard drives for the first time.

Effects of Covid-19:

Micron is more exposed than other semiconductors to consumer spending.

About 15% of Micron’s revenue comes from China, where there was weaker sell-through of consumer electronics and factory shutdowns in the fiscal second quarter ending in February. According to the most recent earnings call, some of this was offset by stronger data center demand due to increased gaming, e-commerce, and remote-work. Management expects this trend to continue globally.

Due to Covid-19, Micron expects to see lower demand for smartphones, consumer electronics, and automobiles than prior expectations. Anticipating changes to customer demand, Micron is moving supply from smartphones to service the strength in the data center markets for both DRAM and SSDs.

Some equipment companies have also indicated delays in equipment deliveries due to the impact of various government actions to combat COVID-19.

The Malaysian government issued lockdown orders on March 16 and Micron closed the manufacturing plants in Muar and Penang. Later, the Malaysian government declared semiconductor production as essential and after a few days the production resumed on a limited basis. In the earnings call, the company stated it’s using its global supply chain to mitigate production impact.

For the most part, analysts are cutting their forecasts for Micron, primarily due to Covid-19. Goldman Sachs, Piper Sandler, KeyBanc and Morgan Stanley have all lowered price targets.

Revenue Segments & Addressable Market:

Micron’s business composition is 64% DRAM, 32% NAND and 4% 3D XPoint memory.

Micron has four business units, which are reportable segments:

• Compute and Networking Business Unit (CNBU) — 41%

• Mobile Business Unit (MBU) — 26%,

• Storage Business Unit (SBU) — 18%

• Embedded Business Unit (EBU) — 15%

Micron has the following revenue segments. According to recent earnings reports from various semiconductor companies, mobile and automotive are exposed.

• Mobile — 25%

• Client and Graphics — 20%

• Enterprise and Cloud Server — 20%

• SSDs and other storage — 15%

• Automotive, Industrial and Consumer — 15%

Country 2019 Revenue in US$ Mil %

  • United States 12,451 53
  • Mainland China excl Hong Kong 3595 15
  • Taiwan 2,703 12
  • Hong Kong 1,614 7
  • Other Asia Pacific 1,032 4
  • Japan 958 4
  • Other 1,053 4
  • 23,406 100

One of Micron’s strongest selling points is the addressable market of $83 billion for DRAM and $99 billion for 3D NAND by 2025. This is a combined addressable market of $182 billion.

Source: Micron Presentation

Future catalysts for NAND and DRAM include artificial intelligence and autonomous vehicles requiring data storage and memory capacities. In the long-term, the management believes it will benefit from secular growth in the industrial IoT market as 5G rolls out. Current markets include the data center and internet of things in addition to PCs and mobile smartphones

According to TrendForce, YMTC, a new competitor located in Wuhan, China, is set to compete with 128L products by the end of the year.

Technical Analysis

The above chart is a look at the weekly price pattern of Micron (MU). The larger the trend, the more important it is to the direction of the price. Since 2009, Micron has been trading within a leading diagonal pattern. This is a 5wave pattern that tracks along a trend channel (in gray). Each of the larger degree 5 waves (in red) are comprised of 3-waves (in blue).

According to this pattern, we are in the larger degree 4th wave (in red). Within this wave, we have completed the A and B wave. Therefore, we are in the middle of the final C-wave down. I will target the lower end of the trend channel, which we have not touched. There are a cluster of Fibonacci price levels around the trend channel between $34-$22.

The weekly RSI is also confirming that we are not yet in a renewed uptrend for MU. Until the RSI can break above the downward sloping trend line as well as break above 60, the momentum suggests the current uptrend off the March lows is a corrective move in a larger degree trend, which is pointing down.

It would be rare to see this larger degree pattern not follow the current trend. However, if price can break above the $61 level, which is confirmed by the weekly RSI, I will look at that level as a bullish move and a targeted entry to ride the new bull market in MU.

The daily chart shows this trend unfolding in real time. The uptrend’s structure off the March lows is overlapping and symmetrical. It further suggests weakness. This is also confirmed by the internals.

The volume is slowing down at current levels, suggesting that the participation at current prices is weakening. The Accumulation/Distribution line suggests that the smart money has not been buying into this uptrend, and in fact using it to unload shares. The MACD histogram and the MFI are showing notable weakness below the price as well.

All of this together further supports a topping pattern that is unfolding. If price can break below $41, this will confirm the target entries below.

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Twilio: 2019 Analysis

Posted on December 19, 2019June 30, 2026 by io-fund

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Twilio: 2019 Analysis

Twilio

Twilio’s most recent earnings report saw a severe 17% drawdown due to lower-than expected guidance. The company guided for $0.01 to $0.02 EPS versus analysts expecting $0.07 per share. Meanwhile, the company beat on earnings at 3 cents per share compared to an expected 1 cent per share, according to Refinitiv. Revenue came in at $295.1 million compared to $287.8 million expected by analysts. 

The company missed estimates for the net-dollar retention rate, which came in at 132% compared to 138% expected. This was an oversight by analysts, as the 132% is quite healthy for a company of Twilio’s size. The median net-dollar retention rate for cloud software is at 104%. Twilio cites the miss as running up against the law of large numbers, which is a fair assessment.

Although I do not foresee rapid, hockey stick growth in Twilio’s future due to mobile maturation, there are some fundamental strengths to Twilio that the market will likely respond positively to. 

For instance, Twilio’s revenue is growing at 75% year-over-year, the company has crossed a $1 billion run rate, and the company has positive EPS with a consensus expectation of 92% EPS growth next year. Current fiscal EPS is $0.13 EPS for the year ending December 2019 and consensus is annual EPS of $0.26 EPS ending December 2020. 

Current fiscal revenue is expected in the $1.16 billion range with fiscal 2020 revenue in the $1.46 range for 31.45% growth.

PRODUCT

Twilio enables communications for mobile applications, such as voice or text. When you text or make a call inside of a mobile application, you are likely using Twilio’s APIs. The company works with over 1,000 mobile carriers in over 150 countries for voice and text/SMS services. 

A few examples:

•       Customer service calls on Zendesk are made through Twilio

•       Powers Facebook’s Whatsapp for availability inside of other apps

•       Messaging home owners inside the AirBnB app

•       Using the Uber or Lyft app to call your driver

•       When Netflix notifies you of new programming that meets your profile, they are using a Twilio product

•       Messaging businesses or receiving notifications about a dinner reservation inside the Yelp application

 Twilio has high switching costs and is one of the only solid VoIP/CaaS options for native mobile applications available. It’s very challenging for their existing customers to go with another VoIP/CSaaS service due to the required time to develop new features and test these features. This is a major plus.

The company caters to developers and this is another reason Twilio has done well, as developers decide the APIs for applications (i.e. not the CEO or a CTO). Twilio states they have 5 million developers as customers, which is about 20% of the 26 million developers in the world today. 

Competitors include Bandwidth, a company that is also a network carrier. As a network carrier, Bandwidth is able to undercut Twilio on pricing with cheaper outgoing and incoming calls plus free incoming SMS. Twilio costs $1 for a dedicated number while Bandwidth costs $0.35 per dedicated number. Bandwidth is the network provider for Google and Skype, however, it’s uncertain how many developers use the service for native mobile applications.

Another competitor is Nexmo, who was acquired by Vonage, and is second to Twilio for global presence with coverage in over 90 countries. Nexmo has attempted to undercut pricing by charging per second rather than per minute, yet is more expensive than Bandwidth. It is more likely that United States developers would choose Twilio over Nexmo.

I am less concerned with the competitors and more concerned with the risks associated with mobile saturation. It can be challenging to quantify the impact of a burgeoning technology that begins to plateau. For instance, on one hand, the trajectory of mobile app revenue is expected to nearly double between 2020 and 2023, from $581 billion to $935 billion. But on the other hand, 77% of app usage is spent inside of three applications and 96% of app usage is spent on the top 10 applications. 

The issue is what will happen to the other 1.8 million apps on the App Store, and 2.4 million apps on the Google Play store, who are fighting for the remaining 4% of app usage time? That’s where saturation comes in as consumers consolidate their time across fewer apps and become harder to convert to new services or applications (the thrill is gone, essentially). 

Twilio is a stable choice that should clear fundamental benchmarks that Wall Street rewards, which is why we are covering the company. Twilio may not be the biggest breakout story of 2020, but is a stable growth story. There should be a noticeable boost for Twilio when 5G is more widespread, however, it requires new applications to be developed for 5G for Twilio to benefit.

Twilio is Pivoting Beyond Mobile Applications …  

 Twilio has strong leadership that has been with the company since inception and is well ingrained in the mobile developer community. There was a time, in 2009-2010, when Twilio had the largest presence at mobile conferences and was everywhere (no exaggeration). Today, the company is much quieter and working on how to expand beyond mobile.

SendGrid Acquisition

Twilio completed the SendGrid acquisition in February of this year, a company that allows developers to create email messaging and marketing strategies through APIs. The acquisition will help Twilio to become an omni-channel offering for companies to communicate with their customers. 

Based on the closing price around the time of the acquisition, the all-stock deal was valued at $3 billion, up from the $2 billion amount at the time the acquisition was announced due to the strength of cloud stocks in end of January/early February of this year. 

Twilio paid 18 EV/sales for SendGrid if calculated on the last full annual revenue reported in 2017, or 13-14 EV/sales if based on the annualized 2018 revenue. 

According to Morningstar, the acquisition is value-neutral. Twilio and SendGrid have both stated they aim to be accretive on revenue while re-investing any savings on expenses to grow the business. Twilio had stated the annualized 2018 income would be $734 million, compared to Twilio’s $650.1 million. The company also stated on a conference call that the gross margins would be 59%, up from Twilio’s gross margin of 47.5%.

Twilio Flex

Twilio launched Flex a year ago, a cloud-based platform for routing calls and engaging with hundreds or thousands of customers. This is a move towards enterprise companies who require a user interface (or dashboard) and a full stack contact center they can customize.

Conclusion:

As stated above, Twilio is a stable choice that should clear fundamental benchmarks. The company is priced at current EV/sales of 11.87 and forward EV/sales of 10.71. This is currently one of the lowest valuations in the category while forward EPS consensus is one of the highest in the category.

Technical Analysis

The technical structure of most cloud stocks is lining up with the fundamental outlook. In other words, while the cloud complex is clearly in a sentiment driven correction, the growth in cloud is just getting started. Next year, it’s estimated that software-as-a-service will grow by 17%, which, once this correction plays out, should lead to a new uptrend to all new highs.  

Digging a little deeper, most of these stocks are clearly in a second wave, showing an overlapping corrective structure. Twilio and Alteryx are not exceptions (we are releasing a PDF on AYX shortly). Typically, second waves flush any remaining optimistic sentiment, causing investors to feel like the initial move up was false, and the current downtrend is here to stay. 

However, what follows the 2nd wave is a more important 3rd wave, which is what we want to participate in. The standard target for the 3rd wave’s completion is around 161.8% the length of the first wave, so this move to all new highs will be notable.  With Twilio’s revenue growing from $1.16B to $1.46B and analyst consensus of 92% EPS growth, as long as we avoid a larger macro pullback/recession, our goal is to add to cloud positions for this 3rd wave.

The red Fibonacci lines on the right indicate the retrace levels from the entire uptrend, which started in May of 2017. The Blue lines indicate the extension of the first leg down (A wave), assuming the first leg has bottomed and we are in a corrective retrace (B wave). The cluster gray lines indicate Fibonacci price levels taken from various swing lows based on Twilio’s price action, which is meant to reveal clusters of important price regions. When these regions line up, it signals a potential bottom, and trend reversal. 

My count has Twilio completing it larger degree 1st wave in red, and is currently in its 2nd wave retrace. The charts suggest that Twilio, like most cloud stocks, has not completed the retrace. Cloud stocks, and Twilio, will likely continue another leg lower, which is when I will consider this a buying opportunity. It will be in this correction that the sentiment towards cloud stocks will likely hit bottom, and be ripe for a reversal.

There is a high level of Fibonacci clusters around the $86, $73, $63 price region. These levels will be my targets for a potential counter trend position, and I will be looking for signs of a bottom as the price approaches these levels. 

Twilio is currently finding resistance just under the 23.6% retrace level at the $97-$103 price region. Furthermore, this level coincides with two huge volume spikes, both of which were initiated at the $100 level. This level will be difficult for Twilio to overcome, not only because it’s a key Fibonacci resistance level, but also because large amounts of money exited the stock at this level. 

The internals of Twilio also suggest more downside. The RSI has clearly broken into bearish internals, finding it difficult to break the 50 line, let alone the 60 line. I will want to see the RSI break the 60 line, and shift into a more bullish posture before considering the correction to be over. 

Furthermore, the MACD has begun to roll over again, suggesting that the downside is not over just yet.

My primary game plan is to initiate a position at lower levels. However, I will abandon this thesis, and assume the bottom is in if: TWLO can break through the 50 and 200-day MA; then break through the 61.8% retrace level with heavy volume, and do so with a 5-wave structure.

In conclusion, the first leg of the downturn appears to have ended, and we have retraced to heavy resistance at the $97-$103 price region. If Twilio cannot breakout here, expect the next leg of this downturn to flush out the remaining sentiment, while price finds support within the price zones listed above. The first support zone will be around $86, then $73, followed by $63. I will look to layer in my position as Twilio makes its next leg lower.

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