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MongoDB Update: Atlas Helps Accelerate Growth

Posted on September 9, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

MongoDB Update: Atlas Helps Accelerate Growth

by Beth Kindig

We discussed on the forum that we like the Elastic setup and we want to add that we also like MongoDB in terms of both fundamentals and technicals. Below, we revisit MongoDB, a company that we have owned in the past, and our coverage of Atlas, a product that we expanded on in July of 2019.

In addition to these two, we have been eyeing Confluent (CFLT) a recent IPO. We will cover this company soon yet want to caution our readers as to the likelihood of a company holding its IPO opening price after the lock-up expires. This is very rare even for quality companies. Therefore, if we enter a company prior to lock-up, we sometimes have to exit and re-enter again due to the nature of IPOs.

You can read our past analysis here on MongoDB

And my previous editorial coverage of Atlas here from 2019.

Atlas Update:

MongoDB is officially an Atlas company with 56% of revenue coming from this product. The CEO ended the call by saying that aren’t many businesses growing at 80% with a run rate of $0.5 billion. He is talking specifically about Atlas. In fact, Atlas is mentioned on the earnings call 90 times (!)

MongoDB is officially an Atlas company

Here’s a quote from the call:

And I think you’ll see us continue to invest aggressively in Atlas, because every customer that we know, even the customers who are predominantly on-premise, they know that the benefit of using MongoDB is that they can start on-prem, but they have a very seamless path to the cloud. There’s no forklift upgrade. There’s no rewrite of the application code. It’s just a very seamless migration path. And so there’s different customers based on the regulatory environment they’re in, compliance reasons, sometimes even cultural reasons. They may be moving more slowly. But every customer has a very clear migration path to the cloud and we believe the ultimate destination will be Atlas.you’ll see us continue to invest aggressively in Atlas, because every customer that we know, even the customers who are predominantly on-premise, they know that the benefit of using MongoDB is that they can start on-prem, but they have a very seamless path to the cloud. There’s no forklift upgrade. There’s no rewrite of the application code. It’s just a very seamless migration path. And so there’s different customers based on the regulatory environment they’re in, compliance reasons, sometimes even cultural reasons. They may be moving more slowly. But every customer has a very clear migration path to the cloud and we believe the ultimate destination will be Atlas.

Atlas is the MongoDB product that allows the flexibility and scale of a document database with the automation of the cloud. The company took the well-loved NoSQL database that put MongoDB on the map and allowed companies to leverage NoSQL in the cloud and connect pipes to companies like Snowflake for structured and semi-structured data analysis. MongoDB has done well because its platform is nearly universal in terms of training and software developer experience. The fact that MongoDB is a highly requested skill across software developers is not a moat, per se, but it’s helped the company remain defensible. You’ll see here that MongoDB is the top-ranking document store with a comfortable lead in terms of score and is also in the top 5 database systems worldwide. Of the top 5, it’s the top-ranking NoSQL database.

The global NoSQL market was worth $4.9 billion in 2020 and will be worth $29.6 billion In 2026. This is equal to the SQL database market. With Atlas, developers can leverage any cloud infrastructure company and also leverage best-of-breed data analytics, when needed, such as Snowflake. Essentially, MongoDB is integrated with every major player and this has helped the company do well in a multi-cloud environment. Elastic is also a NoSQL database yet is primarily a search engine, and therefore, superior in terms of search with better tokenizers and analyzers that result in a more advanced search.

Here is why the market is excited about MongoDB as we’ve seen Atlas re-accelerate two quarters in a row.

A few things that could drive the more growth in the future is the ease-of-use features the company launched recently. The first is Atlas Serverless which allows a company to add compute and storage during traffic spikes or scale back during low usage periods. MongoDB will charge for usage and will maintain the servers for scaling compared to SQL which tends to charge on an hourly basis. This can help Atlas’ growth because it now competes with serverless databases like Google’s Firestone and expands the customer base to include those who can’t or don’t want to pay for dedicated Atlas clusters. It also allows for more integrations with serverless app platforms. As MongoDB put it in the earnings call, “We expect Serverless to drive more customer demand, because getting started on and using Atlas just became even easier.”

The release of MongoDB 5.0 in July includes Live Resharding, which simplifies the process of splitting a database into smaller pieces for horizontal scale. MongoDB now handles the data redistribution and backend synchronization of moving the data to the appropriate shards. The company also allows for time series data to sequence data in order of time. Of the 5.0 updates, the Versioned API release was the most requested change, which allows developers to update or change an API without breaking the client integration.

The 5.0 release followed the 4.0 release which improved the Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation and Durability (ACID) which is a set of properties offered in SQL databases that helps to make accurate transactions. Previously, NoSQL databases prioritized speed by complying with ACID on a single-document level. With the 4.0 release, MongoDB can compete with SQL on multi-document ACID transactions, which puts the company in a stronger position for e-commerce companies and also enterprises. This was an important release because it combined the best of both worlds, which is the speed of NoSQL with the transactional accuracy of SQL.

The main takeaway from MongoDB’s fast iterations of 4.0 and 5.0 is that more enterprises can use MongoDB because it’s bridging the gap with the benefits of SQL and serves both on-prem and cloud by allowing for a seamless transition if/when the enterprise is ready. Here’s a quote as to how Atlas has evolved since its launch:

Atlas has clearly become a mission critical platform. In the early days, there were probably people were, obviously, being a new service and people didn’t know what to expect. You saw more dev and test workloads, perhaps, peripheral or Tier 3 workloads moving on to Atlas. But as people got more and more experience with Atlas, as we added more enterprise features to Atlas, people became increasingly more comfortable and now we’re seeing, very, very large and demanding applications move to Atlas, even from some of the more conservative mainstream organizations out there. So what we’re really seeing now is enterprise adoption of Atlas at scale.as we added more enterprise features to Atlas, people became increasingly more comfortable and now we’re seeing, very, very large and demanding applications move to Atlas, even from some of the more conservative mainstream organizations out there. So what we’re really seeing now is enterprise adoption of Atlas at scale.

Notably, the recent FedRAMP approval could also be a catalyst for MongoDB as the company is able to serve local and federal governments now.

Multi-cloud is another driver, which we will expand on with in a cloud report for next week so that our members can have a more holistic view of why this trend is critical to have exposure to. On a similar note as multi-cloud, our past Atlas coverage focused on MongoDB’s ability to stave off competitors who had cloned its product, such as Amazon’s Document DB. At the time, the market was concerned MongoDB would lose substantial share to AWS. We thought that was unlikely as during the OSCON conference Amazon had stated that Atlas was the segment winner and that Atlas growth had continued after the AWS DocumentDB release. During that time period, I was particularly fond of this comment by the CEO, which exudes confidence: “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so it’s not surprising that Amazon would try to capitalize on the popularity and momentum of MongoDB. However, developers are savvy enough to distinguish between the real thing and a poor imitation.” Dev Ittycheria, MongoDB’s CEO

Notably, MongoDB is fully valued at 38 forward P/S and won’t rank on cash efficiency in terms of the cloud category. Similar to Snowflake, competing with tech giants costs money and we can see this reflected in the sales and marketing costs with both Snowflake and MongoDB in the upper range for this cost.

Financials:

By Bradley Cipriano

MongoDB reported strong Q2 FY2022 results on 9/2/21 which beat both on the top and bottom-line. The 20%+ move in the stock price coupled with a strong surge in volume following the results suggests that there was a shift in the narrative. If so, MongoDB could be nearing an inflection point, where sales will reaccelerate and grow faster than usual, therefore, attracting a premium multiple.

While sales growth recently accelerated (growing 44% YOY, the fastest pace of growth since Q1 FY2021), the company’s core product, MongoDB Atlas, grew much faster at 83% YoY. This also represented the second quarter in a row where MongoDB Atlas sales accelerated on a YoY basis. Specifically, MongoDB Atlas sales increased 83% YoY, which represented the fastest pace of growth in the last six quarters. As shown in the chart above, MongoDB’s Atlas revenue growth rate has been trending up in recent quarters, suggesting that MongoDB is nearing an inflection point in its growth rate. Atlas accounts for 56% of MongoDB’s total sales and the net sequential dollar increase doubled in the recent quarter from $8 million in revenue to $18 million. Seasonally, Q2 tends to be stronger than Q1, adding to this increase.

Another key indicator that MongoDB’s business is doing well is the increase in downloads of MongoDB’s free basic products. The company utilizes an open-source distribution model, where users can download the basic version of MongoDB’s products for free. Once these users become familiar with the products and integrate them into their work flow, then they often convert to paying customers.

MongoDB reported that downloads in the LTM increased 50% YoY to 75 million, bringing the cumulative downloads of MongoDB to over 200 million. Moreover, the 75 million downloads over the last 12 months was greater than the cumulative downloads in the first 11 years of MongoDB’s existence. Since downloads often result in paying customers, the surge in downloads is a leading indicator of future sales. We can see that MongoDB is taking advantage of the surge in downloads, as the company has ramped its expenditures on sales and marketing expense to convert these new users into customers. 

 

Customer metrics have also accelerated, as customers with ARR over $100k grew to 1,126, up 37% YoY and above the 36% and 30% YoY growth rates in Q1 FY2022 and Q4 FY2021, respectively. Total customer count grew 44% YoY to 29,000+ customers, while Atlas customer increased 46% YoY to 27,500+ customers. It is great to see that customers are driving growth (+44%), rather than an increase in price. Since raising prices is ultimately an unsustainable trend, we prefer to see growth driven by volume (customer count) rather than price.

Another key trend to monitor going forward is international growth, especially growth in Asia. In February 2021, MongoDB announced a global partnership with Tencent Cloud. The company also has a partnership with Alibaba Cloud. These partnerships have benefitted MongoDB, as sales to Asia increased 84% YoY to $20 million. Asia accounted for just 10% of sales in the most recent quarter, which means that there is plenty of runway left to capture share in the Asian market.

In summary, MongoDB appears to be nearing an inflection point as the company’s core product, MongoDB Atlas, has accelerated for two consecutive quarters. This acceleration may continue, as downloads have also greatly increased and downloads are a leading indicator of future sales since free users usually convert into paying customers. There were more downloads in the last twelve months than in the prior 11 years, suggesting that growth will remain robust going forward. MongoDB has also ramped its investments in sales and marketing to convert free users into paying customers, which should help support a further acceleration in sales going forward. Lastly, the company has started ramping in Asia with key cloud partnerships, with a long runway of sales available in the APAC key market.

 

 

 

 

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Zoom’s Q2 Earnings Update: What Happened?

Posted on September 1, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Zoom’s Q2 Earnings Update: What Happened?

by Beth Kindig

If you own Zoom, why are you invested in the company? That’ll be a key thing to answer as the market is clearly doubting the company. I know exactly why we are in the stock. Before I review our thesis and why the earnings report was stronger than the market is pricing in (again, for our purposes), I want to begin with the bad news.

The bad news is that the online business is declining and management is being very conservative in regards to their guidance because they’re unsure of how to forecast the churn and lower signups in the individual and small account category. Zoom uses the words online business to refer to the small accounts that sign up online. They use the words channel and direct to refer to the enterprise sales that require their sales team.

The annual forecast of 51% revenue growth places Zoom in the top tier of cloud stocks this year in terms of growth – and that’s especially impressive considering their 300%+ quarters last year. Some are referring to this as a pull forward but that’s not accurate. A pull forward refers to business you would have secured at one point yet it comes earlier or consolidates into a single quarter or time period. What Zoom experienced was a leap from enterprise to consumer during Covid with consumer not being its core business. This is not a pull forward because consumer was a bonus or unexpected use case for the product. It reminds me of Nvidia’s use case with crypto mining, which the market had a severe reaction to, even though crypto mining was not in Nvidia’s product road map.

There are some reports that point towards a deceleration across accounts as the issue. Well, yeah … it has to decelerate from 300%+ but what’s the deceleration referring to exactly? The write-ups will say something like “User growth exploded for Zoom throughout the pandemic, with the number of customers with 10 or more employees skyrocketing 458% from 66,300 in fiscal Q2 2020 to 370,200 during the company’s fiscal Q2 2021. That growth, however, slowed in Q2 2022 to 36%, with the company reporting 504,900 such customers.”

That looks scary yet the revenue growth in Q2 2022 of 51% is not a problem as it was carried by the critical enterprise segment. I review those numbers below. Believe it or not, some enterprise segments actually accelerated from last year. You wouldn’t know that from the earnings reaction.

However, let me be really clear that the reason the market is spooked is the fiscal year guide, and subsequently what it means for Q4’s growth and beyond. The confusion around the current quarter is mainly journalists trying to figure out what’s causing the sell-off and thinking it was something in the current quarter’s ER so you’ll see those quotes like what I pasted above.

Here's the question on the earnings call that caused the sell-off Tuesday:

So, I look at your implied guide for Q4. It seems like you're guiding it to decel to around 12% or so, plus or minus from 30% or so in Q3 with a similar compare I would argue. Now, it seems like it'll actually be down potentially sequentially from Q3. So, can you elaborate on why that might be the case? You talked about online issues. How long do they last, for example? And if we go to like 10% to 12% growth in Q4, should we accelerate afterward if we — the compares get easier, how should we think about next year? –. It seems like you're guiding it to decel to around 12% or so, plus or minus from 30% or so in Q3 with a similar compare I would argue. Now, it seems like it'll actually be down potentially sequentially from Q3. So, can you elaborate on why that might be the case? You talked about online issues. How long do they last, for example? And if we go to like 10% to 12% growth in Q4, should we accelerate afterward if we — the compares get easier, how should we think about next year? – Shebly Seyrafi, FBN Securities

Here was the answer from management. Notably, Zoom calls the individual accounts the “online segment.”

“Yes. So, in terms of what you're seeing in Q4, it is continued uncertainty around headwinds in the online segment, absolutely, it’s driving that. And we're — in terms of what that implies for next year, we're not ready to give FY'23 guidance today, unfortunately. So we will be prepared to do that when we get on the Q4 earnings call and, of course, we'll have a lot more earnings at that point to share with you, but that is what – exactly what continues to drive that in Q4.” – Kelly Steckelberg, CFO Zoom it is continued uncertainty around headwinds in the online segment, absolutely, it’s driving that. And we're — in terms of what that implies for next year, we're not ready to give FY'23 guidance today, unfortunately. So we will be prepared to do that when we get on the Q4 earnings call and, of course, we'll have a lot more earnings at that point to share with you, but that is what – exactly what continues to drive that in Q4.” – Kelly Steckelberg, CFO Zoom

My read on the situation is that management doesn’t know what to expect right now. It was an unexpected situation last year and unwinding from that is hard to model. Please also note, that Zoom has what’s called “front-weighted seasonality” which means contracts renew more in the first half of the year than the second half of the year. This is technically a headwind to Q3 and Q4 although that was already taken into account with the guide.

So, where does that leave us considering Zoom is a LTBH position but nearly 5% allocation? As annoying as this may be, I don’t see any change to the thesis we set out for Zoom. There is confusion about the company’s revenue segments and how they’ll unwind but this earnings report saw accelerating growth in enterprise. Therefore, at most, I see us taking the allocation down to 3% and then back to 5% on a breakout. The reason is we will keep the 3% minimum is that this company is rare and special, I’ve already made that case many times.

Cash is the great equalizer in terms of product-market fit; if you knew nothing else about product, that’ll quickly communicate to you the relationship a tech company has with its customers in any given market. Cloud isn’t ad-tech, where it’s this cash efficient either, which makes Zoom’s cash even more rare. Why is Zoom able to keep costs so low while growing this rapidly? I expand on this below.

I want to point out that Knox has done an excellent job with this position as the highest entry he’s guided was in the mid-$300s with the high-$200s in May. He was extremely clear when Zoom became overextended into the $400s and even $500s, that we were not buyers. Therefore, we are about a 10%-15% drawdown from our last entry. It’s not only our wins that make a portfolio but it’s also avoiding the losses. We take both very seriously.

Enterprise > Consumer

Consumers turned to Zoom during Covid because the product is easy to use and has a viral mechanic, which is the easy-to-share URLs that allow a frictionless video call without logging into accounts or downloading software. 

Zoom is clear on who and what they are. The Five9 acquisition that we covered in-depth here expands their enterprise footprint from employee communications to customer communications for call centers.

Channel and Direct Business drove the revenue results this quarter and the company clearly stated they expect this growth to be “robust” into the future. The company grew revenue by 54% year-over-year to $1.02 billion, exceeding guidance of $990 million.

Enterprise customers that spend more than $1 million dollars in ARR grew by 77% year-over-year. Zoom also reported 131% year-over-year growth in accounts with greater than $100,000 in trailing twelve months of revenue. This was an acceleration from 112% growth in the year-ago quarter.

The Net Dollar Expansion rate for customers with more than 10 employees was above 130% for customers. This is contributed to an increase in spend and upsells on Zoom Phone and Zoom Rooms.

Zoom Phone grew customers by 241% year-over-year and the company “set a record for the largest Zoom Phone deal to date twice in the same day.” There are now 26 customers with more than 10,000 seats. The incremental revenue was driven primarily by new customers. The company is growing Zoom Phone seats at a rate of 1 million per 8 months.

Here's an important excerpt from the call: “In addition to these great customer wins, we also closed another strategic channel partnership with Telkomsel, the largest cellular operator in Indonesia, which is the world’s fourth largest country by population. Telkomsel understands and wants to support their 170 million subscribers’ need for seamless and reliable virtual meetings to thrive in the digital workplace era. They will be leveraging the power of Zoom’s Developer Platform and ISV Partner Program to deliver a fully integrated solution via their CloudX offering for the Enterprise segment and Zoom native apps for the Consumer segment.”

Signing one cellular operator can make up for a lot of online accounts. Telkomsel’s CloudX is unified communications and a contact center solution. As noted in past analysis, Zoom also has partnerships with British Telecom, Lumen Technologies, and Orange Business Services. Zoom’s Distributor Partner Program includes Carahsoft Technology Group in the U.S., Nuvias Unified Communications in Europe, eLink Distribution AG in DACH, and West Telco in LATAM and EMEA, Avant Communications and Intelisys.

 

Zoom’s Cash

There’s no doubt that Zoom’s bottom line is exceptional with operating income of $1.5 billion expected in fiscal year 2022 and adjusted EPS of $4.75 to $4.79.

We can also see that Zoom’s earnings turn into cash, highlighting the high quality of its results. For instance, YTD FCF increased 45% YOY to $909 million, which is impressive considering YTD earnings were $544 million. Zoom’s cashflows are higher than its earnings, which improves the quality of recently reported results.

The firm’s cashflows are largely driven by pre-payments from enterprise customers, which are stored in deferred revenue. Deferred revenue was a healthy $1.15 billion as of Q2, up 62% YOY, and signaling that enterprise customer growth remains strong. As discussed above, a lot of the uncertainty in management’s guide comes from smaller accounts (online accounts), so it is good to see that Enterprise has amble cash support for future sales.

We can gain further confidence that Enterprise is performing strong by scaling deferred revenue to expected H2 enterprise sales. Zoom disclosed on the Q2 call that 40% of its sales are from monthly payers (online accounts), which do not prepay revenues and as a result, do not drive deferred revenue. Last year, around ~40% of Zoom’s H2 sales were from monthly payers.

By stripping out the 40% monthly payers from the H2 guide, we can see that enterprise sales are expected to increase to ~$1.2 billion in H2. Considering Zoom’s $1.15 billion deferred revenue balance, the company’s H2 enterprise sales are 94% supported by pre-payments of cash (deferred revenue), up YOY from 72% support in the prior-year quarter. Viewed differently, Zoom’s enterprise sales are performing stronger than they were last year. If you believe that Zoom’s story is driven by Enterprise (we do), then this is a great trend to see. 

However, it also means that any raises or beats for Q4 will require online payments to come in stronger than expected since enterprise is accounted for in the deferred revenue balance.

 

Hybrid Work-from-Home

As stated above, Zoom Phone is the most prominent product that can drive future revenue growth as the telecom and cellular operators embrace cloud-native. Quite a bit of this will be driven by the developer platform that Zoom has launched and Zoom Apps.

However, hybrid work-from-home is not to be overlooked. Zoom Rooms and Zoom Events are the two products that fall into hybrid WFH.

According to Gartner, by the end of 2021, 32% of workers worldwide will be remote while 51% will be working in a hybrid environment. As you can see from the chart below, Gartner sees this increasing from 50% to 60% in the United States with more percentage increases in India and Western Europe. Zoom Rooms facilitates this by allowing office conference rooms to connect with the remote employees.

Zoom Events capitalizes on the event industry which is one of the last to resume after Covid. It’s not hard to imagine that events will end up being hybrid too, moving forward, to help reduce travel and maximize the number of attendees. Right now, 73% of event planners believe hybrid will be more common in the future.

Conclusion

I’ve been here many times where the wrong revenue segment is driving a market reaction. Zoom is not a consumer story and the current earnings results are showing robust enterprise sales.  Regardless, I won’t sugar coat anything with my readers and Q4 is a gamble right now. That’s the issue and why we saw a 16% decline the day after earnings.

I’ve laid out why we will remain in our position so you can make an educated decision for yourself. We also offer backup with Knox’s entries and so you’ll know when the company is rev’ving up again. We won’t blink an eye when the charts say the timing is right to increase allocation. In my opinion, the chances are incredibly high that Zoom becomes the leading cloud-native communications company globally. Notice I’m not saying the leading web conferencing app and notice I’m not saying “one of the leading.” It’s a big TAM, it’s a sharp team, it’s an incredible product, and they’ve got a pile of cash – that’s all I got for ya.

 

 

 

 

 

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Elastic 2021 Analysis

Posted on September 1, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Beth had previously written a premium analysis on Elastic back in early 2020 that focused on Elastic’s core products. Please read that analysis here if you haven’t yet.

In this article, I will instead discuss why we are now bullish on Elastic and why we think its stock will do well going forward. This analysis focuses on Elastic’s feud with Amazon AWS, its transition from open-source to open-core licensing and the uncertainty that currently surrounds the stock. Importantly, we believe that this uncertainty could provide an opportunity given the stock’s valuation. We conclude our discussion with an overview of Elastic’s recent results and the company’s financial future.

Why we like Elastic:

Elastic recently reported an acceleration in both sales and user growth. We believe that Elastic is well positioned to continue to report strong growth going forward. Elastic’s rapidly expanding total addressable market (TAM, pictured below) supports our belief that there is plenty of runway ahead for Elastic.  
Elastic’s Total Addressable Market (TAM)

Elastic is a search company. As data consumption grows exponentially, search will become increasingly more critical for organizations. Being able to quickly scale and search structured and unstructured data is what Elastic is built for.  Search is also necessary for both preventing and detecting security threats. CEO Shay Banon summarized Elastic’s position during the Q1 Earnings Call when he said that “as data volumes grow, the best and most natural way to explore data is by searching it… We see usage of Elastic just as a general search platform that is very useful to do many, many different things”. In short, growth in data consumption will benefit Elastic’s topline going forward. This is also true for companies like MongoDB and Snowflake as well, yet Elastic has a much more attractive valuation.

Volume of Data consumed worldwide 2010 to 2025

Furthermore, having a founder CEO in a complex space such as enterprise search can be a game changer since success is driven by product. Since no one will understand the product more than the founder, a founder-CEO can provide an edge for a company since product is often paramount, especially in tech.

Despite these traits, Elastic trades at a discount to its peers (discussed below), which we believe is due to the uncertainty surrounding Elastic’s transition to open core and the feud with Amazon’s AWS. We believe that these concerns may subside, and that Elastic will emerge from this uncertainty a stronger company. We discuss these concerns in greater detail next.

From open-source to open-core and the feud with Amazon AWS

Elastic has its roots in open source, which facilitated the rapid adoption of its software and has been a cheap and efficient form of distribution. Elastic makes money by offering certain features of its software available through paid subscriptions. Clearly, Elastic has been able to capitalize on its open-source distribution model, as it reported $608 million in sales in FY2021.

While being open source provides many benefits, the caveat is that its free, and that anyone can make changes to the code and redistribute (sell) it. In 2015, AWS started reselling Elasticsearch as “Amazon Elasticsearch”, which Elastic has contended is an obvious trademark violation. CEO Banon has explained that “this trademark issue [with AWS] drives confusion with users thinking Amazon Elasticsearch Service is actually a service provided jointly with Elastic, with our blessing and collaboration. This is just not true”. Essentially, Amazon has been implying a partnership with Elastic and has effectively taken some of Elastic’s revenue for the last 6+ years.

AWS went even further and in 2019, AWS announced that it will maintain an Open Distro of Elasticsearch, which was similar to a fork of Elastic’s code. ESTC stock sold off 5% that day. Elastic’s founder-CEO responded to the AWS news by highlighting how Elastic has been “forked, redistributed and rebundled so many times I lost count. It is a sign of success and the reach our products have. From various vendors, to large Chinese entities, to now, Amazon. There was always a "reason", at times masked with fake altruism or benevolence. None of these have lasted. They were built to serve their own needs, drive confusion, and splinter the community”. Elastic has so far been able to counter AWS’s fork, evident in its rapid user growth (discussed below). The stock is also up 87% since AWS announced the Open Distro of Elasticsearch.

The feud with AWS and Elastic escalated further in early 2021. On January 14th, Elastic announced a licensing change to its Elasticsearch and Kibana products. The change was aimed at preventing cloud providers (i.e., AWS) from selling its free software without contributing back to the open-source project. On January 21st, AWS responded to Elastic’s license change by announcing that “AWS will step up to create and maintain a ALv2-licensed fork of open source Elasticsearch and Kibana”. AWS has since forked the last ALv2 version of Elasticsearch and Kibana and has called it OpenSearch.

As shown below, the AWS announcement on 01/21/21 marked the top in ESTC’s stock. This feud with Amazon AWS has resulted in uncertainty, as the market is concerned that Elastic will not be able to overcome the AWS threat. We note that since January 2021, Elastic’s financials have improved, yet the stock is still below its ATH. We believe that we are presented an opportunity to buy a high performing company at a discounted price due to this temporary uncertainty caused by the AWS fork. We explain why we believe that Elastic will be able to overcome the AWS threat in more detail next.

Elastic’s stock returns since its IPO

Why we believe that Elastic will be able to overcome the AWS threat

It will take time for Elastic’s licensing change to take effect, since only new releases of Elasticsearch software will be impacted. So, we will have to wait a few quarters to know for sure if Elastic is benefitting or not from the licensing change. This uncertainty can be our opportunity.

By taking a step back and observing the situation from a developer’s perspective, we can better gauge the situation. AWS is forking the Elasticsearch software to maintain its use for AWS, not for other uses. If you want to use it for AWS, great. But if you want to use it in a multi-cloud environment, then the software will likely require further modifications. These modifications will accentuate the differences between AWS’s fork and Elastic’s official releases. The two products will likely operate very differently and portability/migration between services will become harder over time. Do you pick AWS’s fork, or Elastic’s core software?

If you operate strictly on AWS, then the AWS fork may be appealing. If you operate in a multi-cloud environment, then the official Elastic releases will likely be a better choice since it was developed for all different cloud environments. Moreover, certain capabilities are absent from the AWS fork, such as machine learning, which is “built into Elasticsearch and readily available to all customers, without dependencies on any specific proprietary external services. [Elastic does] not believe this to be the case with the new forks, which are primarily built for and governed by AWS”. Machine learning is often a key reason why corporations migrate to the cloud, so we should expect users to want this functionality and hence prefer Elasticsearch over OpenSearch.

At the I/O Fund, we believe that multi-cloud environments will dominate going forward, which should drive traffic to neutral and best-of-breed Elasticsearch over AWS supported OpenSearch. Multiple surveys also signal that most companies are already using multi-cloud providers (shown below). Since Elastic collaborates with all major cloud providers, its software will be optimized for multi-cloud environments. The AWS fork of Elasticsearch will likely be biased towards AWS, meaning that AWS operability will be prioritized over other cloud platforms.

We also note that Elasticsearch also observes and monitors a cloud providers performance. We believe that cloud users want an independent party monitoring their cloud environments. For the last six years, AWS has been able to sell its “Amazon Elasticsearch” product by implying a partnership with Elastic using its trademark. This feigned partnership has likely led users to believe that Elasticsearch was developing the software, not Amazon. By changing the licensing agreement, Amazon has been forced to change the name of Amazon Elasticsearch to OpenSearch. This should help resolve the misunderstanding that Amazon Elasticsearch was not independent of AWS. Furthermore, this should also redistribute the revenues that went to Amazon Elasticsearch back to Elastic, benefiting Elastic’s topline. 

We believe that Elastic will benefit from the licensing change as users will prefer the agnostic Elasticsearch versions to search and observe their cloud environments. This should also lead to a redistribution of revenue that Amazon has taken by reselling Elasticsearch as its own product, benefitting Elastic’s topline. The prevalence of multi-cloud environments will also favor Elasticsearch over AWS’s fork. In the next section, we go beyond the licensing change and provide a brief overview of Elastic’s growing presence in cybersecurity and what this could mean for the company going forward.

Security and SIEM

On top of the licensing changes, Elastic recently released a new version of its code which included a new product called Limitless Extended Detection and Response (XDR), which builds on Elastic’s security offerings. Elastic XDR can be used to unify security information and event management (SIEM) capabilities across all endpoints onto a single platform. Elastic explained further that XDR allows users to “ingest and retain large volumes of data from diverse sources, store and search data for longer, and augment threat hunting with detections and machine learning”.

A question we need to answer is if Elastic is expanding into the highly competitive security vertical because it is running out of runway in its core search market or if this is a natural progression for the firm. The latter appears to be the case, as searching data is a great way to detect and prevent threats. CEO Banon explained during the Q1 Earnings Call that “as companies go online, their surface areas become bigger and they generate more data that needs to be used to detect” threats that can remain hidden out of view. Searching that data is a natural way to detect threats and prevent future threats.

CEO Banon also clarified how Elastic will be able to compete with the numerous security vendors on the market during the Q1 call. He explained that a user first needs to be able to observe threats in order to detect them, and searching the data is the best way to observe threats. He stated further that Elastic’s search engine has been built to identify, among other things, threats.

During the Q1 call, CEO Banon painted a clear picture of what the XDR product is trying to solve: which is to provide a unified place where “you can store all data possible and threat hunt extremely fast, either manually or through AI and machine learning algorithms, and then extend to the peripherals so you can detect and prevent”. Elastic’s platform is already built to scale and quickly processes large amounts of data, so it’s a natural progression to use it for threat detection and prevention.

Finally, what really sets Elastic’s XDR product apart is its ability to scale. Elastic is built to scale: you can change the timeframe of your data search from 2 weeks to 2 years and still receive results within minutes (some competing products can take days or fail to ever finish a query if the dataset is too large). Elastic’s 10+ year history and large developer community has contributed to its ability to quickly scale and process large amounts of data. As observability and security continue to merge going forward, Elastic’s platform is well positioned to benefit from these converging trends. We also note that Elastic’s financial performance has improved in recent quarters, which we discuss in greater detail next.

Financials

Elastic reported Q1 FY2022 results on 08/25/21. The results came in strong as sales accelerated 50% YOY to $193 million and beat estimates by $20 million (12%). The beat flowed into guidance, as Elastic raised its topline guide for FY2022 to $811 million at the mid-point, implying a 34% YOY growth rate which was 3% ahead of the Street’s initial estimate. Since the licensing change went into effect in February 2021, Elastic’s sales have accelerated: from 39% YOY growth in the January quarter (Q3 FY21) to 44% YOY growth in Q4 FY21 and then to a 50% YOY growth rate as of the latest quarter. The acceleration in sales implies that Elastic’s licensing change has not dissuaded customers from signing up and/or increasing their usage of Elastic’s platform.

Elastic’s Q1 gross margin improved 131 bps YOY to 74%, which was above the three-year average of 72%. Operating margins declined 174 bps YOY to -16%, as CEO Banon explained on the Q1 Earnings Call that Elastic has front loaded expenses by hiring software engineers to support its growth initiatives. Cashflows on a 12M basis were an ­inflow of $15 million, an improvement from an outflow of -$7 million in the prior year quarter. Non-GAAP EPS was $0.04, which beat estimates by $0.16.

Customer metrics also showed an acceleration in Elastic’s business. For example, after the licensing change took effect in Q4 FY21, customer count growth accelerated. Specifically, Q1 FY22 (Q4 FY21) customer count grew 32% (33%) YOY to 16,000 (15,000), faster than the 31% YOY growth rate in Q3 FY21. Furthermore, Q1 customers with contract values greater than $100k increased 24% YOY to 780, an acceleration from the 20% and 18% growth rates reported in Q4 and Q3 FY21, respectively. The acceleration in customer growth suggests that the licensing changes have been beneficial.

However, despite reporting an acceleration in sales, a top and bottom-line beat, a raise in guidance and improving customer metrics, Elastic’s stock slightly sold off after the strong Q1 print. We believe this was because billings came in low. However, we do not think this is a concern since growth in cloud sales does not increase billings.

Cloud sales, which are 100% subscription based with no free option, increased 89% YOY to $62 million, an acceleration from the 70% and 79% YOY rates reported in Q4 and Q3 FY21, respectively. Elastic cloud is mostly billed monthly, meaning there is no deferred revenue and hence, no billings associated with the sales. However, as cloud customers grow in usage, their contracts will get larger in which point they will likely convert to annual billing. This will then lead to a rise in deferred revenue and a rebound in calculated billings growth. In short, we believe that billings are temporarily subdued due to the growth in cloud sales, which is a good problem to have.

Viewed holistically, we believe that Elastic is a high performing company reporting strong growth, positive cashflows and improving customer metrics. While there are concerns, such as the AWS threat and subdued billings, we believe that these concerns are just temporary issues. In the next section, we briefly discuss Elastic’s discounted valuation.

Valuation

Elastic trades at an 18x Fwd P/S multiple, well below its peer group median of 32x Fwd P/S (peers: DDOG, CRWD, DT, SPLK, MDB). Elastic’s EV/Sales multiple of 21x was nearly half its peer group’s 40x EV/sales multiple. However, Elastic is growing just as fast as its peer group. As shown in the below charts, ESTC’s most recent growth rate is above the peer median, yet its valuation is nearly half the peer median. We don’t believe that Elastic deserves such a large discount relative to its peers. As discussed, the AWS threat and subdued billings growth are temporary concerns which will ultimately make Elastic stronger. For its strong growth and healthy margins, we expect that Elastic will start to trade closer to the peer median.

Elastic’s Sales Multiple Relative to the Peer Median

Elastics Three-month Growth Rate vs Its Peers

Conclusion :

The I/O Fund believes that Elastic is a high-quality company with strong growth and a relatively cheap valuation. We discussed the uncertainty that surrounds the stock which helps explain the discount in Elastic’s share price. We also explained why we think that the AWS threat and subdued billing concerns are just temporary issues. Looking forward, we expect Elastic to continue to grow its topline as its TAM continues to balloon. We also expect that the firm’s valuation will converge towards its peer group once the licensing uncertainty is fully behind the firm, which may take a few quarters. 

Additional Resources:

2020 Elastic Analysis

Overview of Elastic's Q4 2021 Results

Disclosure: Bradley Cipriano and the I/O Fund may own shares in Elastic and have no plans to change their respective positions within the next 72 hours. You can access the I/O Fund’s positions here. The above article expresses the opinions of the author, and the author did not receive compensation from any of the discussed companies.Disclosure: Bradley Cipriano and the I/O Fund may own shares in Elastic and have no plans to change their respective positions within the next 72 hours. You can access the I/O Fund’s positions herehere. The above article expresses the opinions of the author, and the author did not receive compensation from any of the discussed companies.

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Overview of Elastic’s Recent Results and Outlook

Posted on August 25, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

In January of 2020, we wrote an in-depth analysis on Elastic (ESTC), which you can access here. We recommend that you read this report to get a full understanding of Elastic’s product positioning within the cloud and data security sectors. Recently, it started showing up on our screens from all angles. We will likely begin initiating a position soon, and build in layers until we see a major breakout.

In this quick blog, we present some of the recent changes that ESTC made to their positioning within cloud.  We also address some of the concerns regarding their competition with AWS.  We believe these changes will be a boon to their future growth, and want you to get a better idea why we are focusing on ESTC from a fundamental perspective.

Fundamental Overview:

Early in 2021, Elastic modified its open-source license so that it is no longer free for use if it is being repackaged and sold as a SaaS product. This was done to address cloud vendors’ repackaging of Elastic’s opensource code and selling it themselves. Elastic clarified that the vast majority of users will not be impacted, rather “the folks who take our products and sell them directly as a service will be impacted, such as the Amazon Elasticsearch Service.”

AWS responded to this news by stating that it will maintain its open-source fork of Elastic search. Specifically, AWS stated “In order to ensure open source versions of both packages remain available and well supported, including in our own offerings, we are announcing today that AWS will step up to create and maintain a ALv2-licensed fork of open source Elasticsearch and Kibana.” ESTC’s stock sold off in January, possibly in-light of the news that tech giant AWS was going to maintain Elastic’s open source code, which would pressure Elastic’s ability to charge for its software going forward.

However, we believe that Elastic will be able to overcome this AWS threat. This is because cloud customers often want an independent third-party monitoring their cloud stack. Elastic should be able to continue to grow even if AWS maintains a fork of its open-source code. Since Elastic is already embedded in many different organizations and has a large and diverse developer community, we believe that AWS’s open-source fork will not replace Elastic’s open-core platform. We also suspect that the market is wising up to this, as the stock price has recovered most of its losses since the January sell-off.

Being open-source has driven the adoption of Elastic, since being free-to-use increases the size of the ‘cake’ (opportunity). Elastic can get a slice of the cake by charging for certain features. However, cloud vendors such as AWS have been reselling Elastic’s open-source software, so Elastic understandably wants some of that revenue. By changing its license structure, Elastic gets a smaller cake but a bigger slice. The market is still unsure if this is a good path to take, and we will soon find out with Elastic’s results in the coming quarters.

Elastic’s Financials and Outlook

Despite the uncertainty, we have comfort in the quality of Elastic’s recent results and the reasonableness of its forward estimates. For example, Elastic reported high quality revenue in the last quarter (Q4 FY2021). Q4 sales increased 44% YOY to $178 million, while deferred revenue increased 45% YOY to $353 million. Deferred revenue represents cash received upfront, which provides balance sheet support for future sales. Deferred revenue was 199% of three-month sales in Q4, a four-year seasonal high. This is a good trend to see as it means there is relatively more demand for Elastic’s products than in prior years, a sign of strength.

We also see that cash collected from customers also increased in FY2021. We measure cash collections from customers by looking at the YOY changes in accounts receivables and deferred revenue and adding the net change to annual sales. In the below chart, you can clearly see that Elastic has been steadily increasing its cash collections. This is a favorable trend, as it shows that Elastic is not extending payment terms and/or requiring less upfront cash to drive sales. This also validates that there is sustained demand for Elastic’s products. By scaling cash collections from customers to 12M sales, the metric increased to 118%, the highest value since Elastic went public. Stated differently, Elastic is receiving more cash from sales than in any period in its history, another sign of strength. This trend also helped Elastic report positive cashflows in FY2021.

Looking forward, Elastic will report AH on 08/25. The Street expects Q1 FY2023 sales to increase 46% YOY to $189 million, an acceleration from the most recent topline growth rate of 44%. We believe that Elastic will be able to meet its estimates since it has amble support from its balance sheet. As mentioned, deferred revenue increased 45% YOY in the most recent quarter, and was 187% of forward three-month sales.  In the last four years, Elastic’s Q4 deferred revenue balance has been ~180% of forward sales. Given the relatively higher levels of deferred revenue, we believe that an expectation for accelerating topline growth is reasonable.

Following the Q1 FY2022 print that will be released soon, we will want to see that Elastic is still growing despite the AWS fork. We believe that Elastic will be able to overcome this temporary threat, and that the narrative around the stock may soon change, which could lead to a large move in the stock price.

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Datadog Deep Dive on Financials and Valuation

Posted on August 18, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Overview:

By Beth Kindig

Last May, we covered Datadog’s Q1 earnings report and indicated we would do a deep dive on the company soon. The simplified thesis as we rounded the corner into tough Q2 covid comps, was that the company allows us exposure to the market that AWS, Azure and Google Cloud participate in but with a pureplay. We specifically stated, “If the tech giants are communicating that cloud infrastructure-as-a-service is one of the most critical markets in the future, then who are we to argue with this by not investing in the leader across cloud monitoring products?”

In that write-up, we quoted the CEO on why the company had been so resilient up to Q1. With Q2, the company has further shown its resilience.

I’ll quote what we had written as it’s straight forward and gets to the heart of why they can compete with even an open-source competitor not on the market’s radar:

What matters is to solve the end-to-end problem for our customers. And to make it as easy as possible for them to just plug us in and everything just work everything to show that we don’t get our mess, a gigantic mess with all these different technologies and applications and clouds, everything else. We turn that into something that the understanding is well ordered, without any effort.” -Datadog Olivier Pomel on Q1 earnings callon Q1 earnings call

At the time, we thought Datadog was capable of coming in above guidance, which did occur in Q2. The company came in quite strong at 67% year-over-year growth to $234 million, an acceleration from the 51%, 56% and 61% YOY growth rates in the previous three quarters.

Our original thesis from January of 2020 pointed out that we thought Datadog would do well on hybrid cloud when we said, “Datadog serves hybrid cloud customers and allows for monitoring of both environments. New Relic, on other hand, is SaaS-only (or cloud only). From my perspective, the most growth will come from hybrid over the next few years as the majority of companies today have resisted sending data to another company’s servers and must eventually choose a solution to remain competitive on AI and ML. In my opinion, the future growth of hybrid is an important catalyst and market opportunity for Datadog. You can read more about Datadog’s hybrid offering here. ”hybrid offering here. ”

About nine months later, Datadog announced an integration partnership with Azure, the leader on hybrid cloud environments.

We are especially bullish on the Sqreen acquisition as this helps Datadog take advantage of the trend towards microservices and Kubernetes rather than monolithic architectures. I’ve covered Kubernetes in an editorial here when I discussed Google Cloud, Azure and AWS. Generally speaking, Kubernetes can introduce vulnerable clusters due to default configurations. In the past, the demonstrations at BlackHat, the annual security conference held in Las Vegas, have exploited features in Kubernetes default attack surface rather than bugs. Sqreen specializes in protecting code-level risks across distributed applications by protecting application logic. Sqreen’s main goal is to deliver security solutions to developers and the operations teams, as well, i.e., to “democratize” and emphasize security testing and implementation during the development process, often called DevSecOps. These are the two main points on this acquisition – more market share across security for microservices and more stakeholders at a company who can buy and deploy Datadog products outside of the security team.

We think it’s fairly clear that Datadog’s product is quite strong and able to out-perform competitors. Therefore, we think it’s prudent to focus more on valuation and look for clues as to how the company will perform under the pressure of being one of the more richly valued tech stocks.

As most of you know, we’ve added a CPA to the team. We think a strong financial analyst compliments my analysis on tech products and Knox’s technical analysis and portfolio management quite nicely. Below, Bradley goes through the financials on Datadog and why the company may be able to live up to its valuation.

We published on the forum the following introduction to Bradley Cipriano:

Please welcome Bradley Cipriano to the team. He will be our team member who dots the i's and crosses the t's on financial reports and who is incredibly detailed with a sharp eye for numbers. We couldn't be more excited to have his specific skillset join the analysts on the site as we feel confident we will see an immediate impact from having a detailed CPA on the team.

We think growth-hope investing is rampant. I would define this as "the growth is there, let's hope the stock goes waaaay up!" We want to do the opposite at the I/O Fund. We say "the growth is there, now let's reduce risk with product analysis (Beth), technical analysis (Knox) and financial analysis (Bradley) to find the one gem out of a list of ten or twenty.

Bradley will help us sort through quality candidates to help us improve our batting average. He is specifically trained to find issues that nobody else sees — and vice versa, to identify opportunities that check out after rigorous financial analysis. Please welcome him on the forum, where he will be spending time daily and weekly, plus keep an eye out for his thoughtful analysis via blog updates.  

Here's his bio:

Bradley previously worked as a forensic equity analyst at Gradient Analytics, where he focused on assessing the quality of revenue and earnings for both domestic and internationally listed stocks for institutional asset managers. Bradley has been able to utilize his strong accounting background to identify issues and concerns that the Street may be overlooking, such as low-quality earnings beats and unsustainable revenue growth. He received his BS degree in accountancy from the W.A. Franke College of Business at Northern Arizona University. Bradley is a licensed CPA in the state of Arizona and is also pursuing the CFA charter.

 

Datadog Deep Dive on Financials and Valuation

By Bradley Cipriano

Datadog reported Q2 results on August 5th and beat the consensus top and bottom-line estimates while forward guidance for Q3 came in ahead of expectations. The stock is up 15% after the Q2 print and is also up 34% YTD, outperforming the Nasdaq’s 13% YTD gain.

At $133/share, Datadog trades at a premium of 43x forward P/S multiple by the market, well above its peers in the cloud monitoring market (shown below). In the discussion that follows, we outline Datadog’s unique opportunity and strong financial performance, which we believe supports Datadog’s premium valuation.

Table 1. Datadog’s Multiple Relative to the Peer Median

While a 43x Fwd P/S multiple appears high at first, Datadog is uniquely positioned to continue to benefit from corporations transitioning to the cloud.

Gartner estimates that spending on public cloud services will reach $661 billion by 2025, more than doubling from the ~$270 billion spent in 2020. Of this, approximately $34 billion will go to infrastructure monitoring by 2024. More specifically, the post-Covid estimates for application performance monitoring market is $12 billion by 2026. Datadog participates in other markets, such as network performance monitoring, as well. 

You can read more about our stance on cloud here in the H1 2021 update. On key takeaway from the February report is this: “Gartner’s survey indicates that there is still quite a bit of growth ahead despite the harder comps the cloud software leaders face in 2021. The data shows that 70% of organizations using cloud services plan to increase their spending, stating “the proportion of IT spending that is being allocated to cloud will accelerate even further in the aftermath of the COVID-19 crisis.”  plan to increase their spending, stating “the proportion of IT spending that is being allocated to cloud will accelerate even further in the aftermath of the COVID-19 crisis.”  

Datadog is more insulated in terms of competition as the company is able to benefit from the growth of Amazon’s AWS, Microsoft’s Azure and Google Cloud. This is because cloud customers prefer an independent software provider monitoring their cloud environments rather than use the cloud IaaS provider for the monitoring of applications. Imagine if a customer of Amazon’s AWS had an issue that she thought was due to AWS, but Amazon was saying the issue was on her end. Having an independent third-party helps resolve this potential conflict of interest and also allows the customer to pursue best of breed products across a multi-cloud environment.

While Datadog compliments the bigger players in cloud IaaS, the company faces competition from its peers. However, Datadog has led the competition, evident by its robust growth rate. As pictured below, Datadog has reported the strongest topline growth rate amongst its peers and its outlook for three-month and next twelve-month (NTM) sales growth is also the most robust in its peer set. Given Datadog’s premium valuation, the market believes that Datadog is the favorite to succeed in this space, and we agree. The cloud market is enormous, and if Datadog can continue to capture share, then the firm has plenty of growth ahead of it. We explain why we think Datadog will continue to outperform in greater detail below.

Chart 1. Trailing and Forward Growth Rates for Datadog and its Peers

You can read more about Datadog’s competitors including AppDynamics (Cisco) here.about Datadog’s competitors including AppDynamics (Cisco) here.

Datadog’s Opportunity

One of the things that sets Datadog apart from the competition is that it is easy to set up. For example, Datadog recently partnered with Microsoft to natively embed Datadog into Azure. Datadog explained that “this first-of-its-kind integration of a third-party service into a public cloud provider reduces the learning curve for using Datadog to monitor the health and performance of your applications in Azure”. This is significant, as Azure is the second largest cloud provider, accounting for ~20% of total cloud market share, according to Gartner. Coming pre-installed is a significant advantage relative to other monitoring peers such as Splunk, which requires highly skilled (and expensive) engineers to configure the software. Being pre-installed also significantly reduces the sales cycle, allowing Datadog to grow its sale faster.

Likely contributing to its easy set-up and installation in the cloud, Datadog was built specifically for the cloud. In other words, Datadog is entirely cloud-native.  Before Datadog, Splunk was the market-leader in log management, but Splunk was built for on-premise infrastructure, which is inherently different from the constantly evolving cloud environment. Splunk missed the tectonic shift to the cloud, while Datadog seized the opportunity. This is a rare instance in tech of a first-mover (Splunk) losing its market dominance to a younger company (Datadog).

Another key differentiator for Datadog is its leadership. The company was founded in 2010 by its current CEO, Oliver Pomel. CEO Pomel’s vision from the start was to be entirely dedicated to the cloud, and portable to all different cloud environments. His vision was spot on as cloud spending vastly outpaced on-premise spending in 2020 (shown below). With global cloud spending expected to increase ~23% in 2021, Datadog can be expected to maintain its strong growth rate for the foreseeable future.

Chart 2. Enterprise Spending on Cloud and On-Premise Data Centers

In a rapidly growing and constantly evolving cloud environment, it pays to have a founder CEO with a deep understanding of technology leading the company. We can see the consequences of having the wrong leadership in place by looking at Splunk’s fall from grace. For instance, Splunk’s founder exited years ago and he was replaced with a CEO with a background in technology sales. The assumption at the time was that Splunk had the tech, it just had to sell it. This likely contributed to the company missing the tectonic shift to the private/public cloud and hybrid cloud as the CEO was focused on selling the product rather than adapting it to the changing environment. Now, we see Datadog benefiting from multi-cloud, as well.

CEO Pomel has also done a great job of staying ahead of the competition. He states that Datadog’s focus has been “mostly greenfield, new environments” where the company does not encounter competition. When asked on the Q2 Conference Call about the competitive backdrop, and if there’s been any changes, CEO Pomel replied that “its very boring” and that the competitive landscape hasn’t changed much.  This does not happen by chance, rather it takes a leadership team with expertise and a deep understanding of their customer’s needs to anticipate where the “greenfield” opportunities will be, and to get there before the competition.   

A big theme going forward for Datadog will be the ‘standardization’ of cloud vendors. CEO Pomel explained this trend at length during Datadog’s Q2 Conference Call. He gave an example of a 7-figure upsell w/ an e-commerce company that had a strategic initiative to “consolidate and reduce costs by standardizing on Datadog.” He gave another example of a different 7-figure upsell for a global firm that was “experiencing rapid growth with their online product and its teams were forced to jump from tool to tool to try and mitigate problems.” He added that by standardizing on Datadog, the firm was able to “decrease mean time to resolution and free up internal resources”.

Standardizing means interoperability between various cloud environments and integrated interfaces. This is especially important with multi-cloud or hybrid cloud where companies have more than one environment. This is becoming the new normal to prevent vendor lock-in. The word standardization/ standardize was mentioned 20 times on the Q2 Earnings Call, highlighting its importance to Datadog’s story going forward. If corporations continue to standardize on Datadog’s platform, then the company will continue to capture market share.

Since dealing with multiple cloud vendors quickly becomes cumbersome, there is a natural tendency to standardize in tech, especially with software. Moreover, cloud applications need to communicate, so having everything on one platform can make detecting and resolving issues less complex and costly. We believe that we are on the cusp of this standardization trend with cloud software vendors, with Datadog leading the way. We believe that Datadog is best positioned to benefit from both the rise in cloud usage and the standardization of cloud software.

Viewing Datadog’s opportunity holistically, we can better understand its premium 43x forward sales multiple. The firm is the fastest growing company in a market that is riding on tailwinds from the tech giants. Its market is rapidly growing, and this growth is expected to continue for the foreseeable future. Furthermore, customers are starting to consolidate cloud vendors to reduce complexities and costs. This trend will allow Datadog to quickly capture market share, adding more fuel to its topline growth rate. Lastly, Datadog also has a founder CEO leading the company, coupled with a proven management team capable of adapting to the constantly evolving cloud environment. We believe that these trends help justify Datadog’s premium valuation. In the next section, we discuss Datadog’s recent financial performance and compare key metrics to industry peers. We highlight both favorable and unfavorable trends, and important metrics to watch going forward.

Datadog’s Financials

Datadog’s Q2 sales beat expectations by $21 million and increased 67% YOY to $234 million, an acceleration from the 51%, 56% and 61% YOY growth rates in 1Q21, 4Q20 and 3Q20, respectively.

Gross (operating) margin was 76% (-4%), in-line with (above) the trailing three-year average of 76% (-5%). Non-GAAP EPS was $0.09, up 80% YOY, and beat the consensus estimate of $0.03 by $0.06. Quarterly cashflows from operations doubled YOY from $25 million to $52 million while TTM free cashflows increased 193% YOY top $132 million. It is impressive to see both sales and cashflows grow at a rapid pace, highlighting how Datadog’s business is firing on all cylinders.

Datadog’s strong topline growth and positive cashflows lends credence to the firm’s premium valuation. Furthermore, Datadog’s outlook for Q3 also came in well ahead of expectations, as Q3 sales and EPS estimates have recently been revised up by 10% and 105%, respectively.

We also note that certain non-GAAP metrics highlight Datadog’s premium position in its industry. For instance, Datadog’s dollar based net retention ratio (DBNRR) has been >130% for 16 consecutive quarters. A DBNRR metric above 100% signals that Datadog’s customers are expanding the amount of Datadog products they use, highlighting how Datadog has been executing on its ‘land and expand strategy’.

Looking forward, we could expect a slight normalization in Datadog’s DBNRR metric. This is because CEO Pomel explained on the Q2 Earnings Call that new customers are starting larger, meaning they are purchasing more products upfront. This is a favorable trend, as it immediately increases revenues, but will be a headwind to DBNRR going forward as there will be less products to expand into. If DBNRR starts to trend back to 100%, we will need to determine if it is because of higher average selling prices for new customers (a favorable trend) or because of an increase in churn/decrease in usage of products (an unfavorable trend).

Another important trend to watch is if Datadog is collecting cash upfront when it signs a customer contract.  Datadog’s Q2 current deferred revenue balance increased 63% YOY to $265 million, or 113% of three-month sales. Furthermore, net deferred revenue (deferred revenue less accounts receivables) increased 88% YOY to $78 million, outpacing the 67% YOY rise in Q2 sales. The outsized growth in net deferred revenue shows that Datadog has collected relatively more cash upfront from subscription sales than last year, a sign of strength. Having cash upfront for sales also improves the quality of revenue, which deserves a higher premium relative to sales accrued without cash.

Finally, we also believe that its critical to monitor Datadog’s research & development (R&D) expense going forward. We want to see that Datadog continues to invest in its future, but we also want to see that R&D expense remains under control. As pictured below, Datadog’s R&D expense margin has steadily increased over the years. This makes sense, considering the constantly evolving cloud environment.

In the most recent quarter, R&D expense rose 108% YOY to $95 million, this represented the fastest pace of growth since Q1 2019. While the acceleration in R&D expense has helped Datadog secure its greenfield opportunities, R&D’s current growth rate is ultimately unsustainable.  

We also note that Datadog has reported a rise in capitalized software, which stores R&D expense on the balance sheet and temporarily inflates earnings by reducing R&D expense. For instance, capitalized software increased $8 million QoQ ($33 million YOY) to $66 million. The capitalization of R&D expense is up to management’s discretion, and a sharp rise in capitalized R&D expense can signal that a company may be trying to manage its expenses. Had Datadog instead expensed the $8 million QoQ rise in capitalized software as R&D expense, its Q2 EPS would been lower by ~$0.03. Nonetheless, Datadog still would have beat estimates after including this expense adjustment.

Going forward, we will need to monitor both R&D expense and capitalized software to make sure Datadog’s results are sustainable. For instance, the sequential increase in capitalized software plus three-month R&D expense was $103 million, which was below the firm’s quarterly gross profit of $176 million.  The trend will likely become unsustainable once the sum of the sequential rise in capitalized software plus R&D expense is greater than Datadog’s quarterly gross profit.  

Chart 5. Recent Trends in Datadog’s R&D Expense Margin and Capitalized Software Expense

After reviewing Datadog’s financials, we can see why the firm has been awarded a premium multiple. Datadog has reported accelerating sales growth, a strong outlook and robust cashflows. The company’s DBNRR has remained above 130% for 16 consecutive quarters, demonstrating that the company is executing on its land and expand strategy. Datadog also has cash support for future sales stored in deferred revenue, which improves the quality of revenue and warrants a higher premium. While the current growth rate in R&D expense is unsustainable, the trend is not yet of concern. Taken together, we believe that Datadog’s premium multiple is appropriate given Datadog’s strong financials.  

Conclusion

In light of Datadog’s premium multiple, we revisited the story to make sure the company’s valuation remained reasonable. Considering the firm’s unique position in a rapidly expanding market which is ripe for consolidation, we believe that Datadog’s topline has plenty of room to run. Furthermore, Datadog’s founder-led management team has proven resilient in a constantly evolving cloud environment. We also considered Datadog’s financials which appeared robust but were not without concerns. For instance, Datadog’s sales are growing at an accelerating rate and its cashflows appear healthy. However, Datadog’s R&D expense growth rate is currently unsustainable, and the expense has been artificially lowered by the capitalization of software expense. Nonetheless, Datadog’s results remain robust after these adjusting for these considerations. We continue to believe that Datadog is best positioned to benefit from the tectonic shift underway as corporations migrate to the cloud, which helps justify Datadog’s premium valuation.

Disclosure: Bradley Cipriano and the I/O Fund own shares in Datadog and have no plans to change their respective positions within the next 72 hours. You can access the I/O Fund’s positions here. The above article expresses the opinions of the author, and the author did not receive compensation from any of the discussed companies. Disclosure: Bradley Cipriano and the I/O Fund own shares in Datadog and have no plans to change their respective positions within the next 72 hours. You can access the I/O Fund’s positions here. The above article expresses the opinions of the author, and the author did not receive compensation from any of the discussed companies.

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Zoom’s Acquisition of Five9 = 360 Degree Cloud-Native Communications

Posted on July 21, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

On the forum, I stated that Zoom had 90 degrees of the cloud-native communications market with web conferencing and moved to 180 degrees with Zoom Phone. This “half-circle” represents employee communications. When the sales department has a meeting with the marketing department, they’ve been using Zoom for up to 10 years. Prior to this, these departments used Cisco Webex, where Eric Yuan cut his teeth. Ten years ago, when Zoom came on the market, employee communications software and apps were too cumbersome to deliver the speed required for communications. Mobile was especially an issue for legacy products. The beauty of Zoom’s product is it reduced friction entirely from where it used to take minutes to join a call to mere seconds.

Five9 is on the opposite 180-degree side of the enterprise communications circle, which is customer communications. Customer communications is when you go to call your credit card company 1-800 number or health insurance company as a customer. These contact centers are very good in siloed situations yet there is a lot of friction when it comes to aggregating omnichannel touchpoints. Have you ever called your credit card company and discussed an issue for 5-10 minutes only to be transferred to another department where you must repeat the exact same issue for 5-10 minutes? Or, have you ever engaged with a chatbot or live chat and 10 minutes later ended up calling in for help because it was ineffective? 

Many of these customer contact centers are quite advanced yet they are not able to connect the pieces in the customer journey to be effective. Wait times have improved yet getting the customer what they need to increase loyalty has not improved.

Here is how Zoom depicts the 360-degree circle:

Here is how Gartner shows the circle – which is actually two circles overlapping:

More on Five9 …

I’ve published volumes on Zoom Video so it makes sense to focus on Five9 for this analysis.

Five9 was not a hypergrowth story like Twilio or Zoom during Covid. In fact, the stock price being up 187% is pretty generous of the market as the company has remained range bound in the 28-40% revenue growth range even during the ideal conditions for a contact center company, which was the work-from-home environment we saw last year.

By my estimation, Five9 has a “bells and whistles” issue and lacks focus. There are too many features and the company tries to do too much. That’s an opinion of mine, although if you visit the website, you’ll probably see what I mean as it’s a bit overwhelming. Essentially, Five9 doesn’t have its cornerstone selling point.

To contrast here is how streamlined Zoom and Twilio are:

  • Zoom delivers web conferencing and audio for employees. It’s also now a consumer favorite
  • Twilio simplifies SMS for developers. It’s also becoming an omnichannel marketing solution using first-party data

Despite the fact Five9 lost its way by trying to do too much (evidenced by its lackluster sub-40% growth for many years including during the hypergrowth window of 2020), the product has some chops and ranks competitively across cloud contact centers in the North American region. The company is third for high-volume customer use cases, second for customer engagement use cases, and first place for agile contact center use cases. Agile means it’s quick to deploy for specific use cases (like health care, for instance, needs a customized deployment) and can scale quickly if needed.

The ongoing argument in terms of the shift towards cloud communications is that omnichannel approaches have not resulted in a unified customer experience. The pain point –for both the consumer and the SMB/enterprise – is the sheer number of touchpoints we have today. This includes chat, phone, email, SMS and social media.

Here’s a visual of what Zoom and Five9 will set out to accomplish with multiexperience between employee communications and customer communications. Cisco is one company that has combined Webex with a contact center. As you already know, this is an easy competitor for Zoom to take on. Otherwise, Zoom is primarily taking on competitors in either UCaaS or CCaaS but not both.

Source: Gartner

In a previous Forbes article, I had stated “Zoom’s ongoing goal will be to disrupt all legacy systems with cloud-native communications – and this means every possible method of communication that is not currently done on the cloud and/or is currently on the cloud but is too cumbersome of a process due to walled gardens.”

Vendor lock-in usually means Microsoft or Google. There is serious vendor lock-in across enterprise companies with 115 million users on Microsoft Teams due to the cross-sell from Office. Google’s walled garden likely destroyed its potential for doing more in communications, as well.

Quick note: I’ve seen some questions about the difference between UCaaS and CCaaS. We can simplify this by calling UCaaS “employee communications” and CCaaS “customer communications.” We know these are cloud-native and we know employee communications is unified. While I’m on the topic, it’s important to note that Zoom made the UCaaS Gartner quadrant for the first-time last year with the addition of Zoom and was immediately named a leader.

Artificial Intelligence

The reason that combining employee communications with customer communications is important is for data integration. One of the most advanced areas for AI is speech and voice recognition. This lends itself well to customer contact centers who speak with customers all day, every day. The AI for enterprise communications will become more effective when CX and EX is combined.

In November of 2019, Google released its Contact Cloud Center AI (CCAI) solution and Five9 was an integration partner for the release. The integration allows Five9’s contact center to send the voice conversation and contextual data to Google’s Cloud CCAI via APIs for real-time transcription and the triggering of knowledge base responses. Salesforce was also a launch partner for the use of CRM to help with custom integrations across a customer base and customer service agents.

The stack in this case (moving forward) would be Zoom for voice/audio/chat for customer contact centers, Salesforce for millions of agent desktops, and Google’s AI voice recognition for accuracy. This is also a great illustration as to why a walled garden like Microsoft isn’t a good reason to discount Zoom. In many ways, you can do more outside of walled gardens and reduce vendor lock-in (or dependency). This is why best-of-breed is becoming popular (reference my Snowflake analysis). In this case, Google likely has the better AI for voice recognition and a company with high customer service volume isn’t stuck with Microsoft for a contact center just because it uses Microsoft for other software products.

If I were to guess the motivating factor behind Zoom’s choice in Five9, it is probably because the company has been working on AI for customer communications. This will save Zoom not only the build for a contact center, but can immediately center Zoom in the trend of AI voice recognition where it’s being rapidly adopted and needed for communications.

Key Points from Investors Call and Investors Presentation:

You can access the investors call here and the presentation here.

Five9 stockholders will receive 0.5533 shares of Class A common stock of Zoom Video Communications. This represents a 13% premium at the time of announcement to Five9 for a stock price of $200.28. The transaction value is $14.7 billion and is an all-stock deal. The transaction is expected to close in the first half of 2022. This equates to a 25.3 price-to-sales, which the Five9 CEO pointed out, is the highest M&A P/S paid in the cloud category. On a side note, even though this was stated, I’m not sure this is correct as I believe Slack was bought at a 29 price-to-sales.

According to the Investors Presentation, Zoom will increase the addressable market from $62 billion to $86 billion, for an increase of $24 billion by adding the customer communications. The company points to the cross-sell opportunity, which means not only will Zoom increase its TAM but should capture a higher percentage of the TAM.

Last twelve months revenue for Zoom Video was $3.3 billion compared to Five9’s $478 million. The growth from Zoom was nearly 10X higher at 296% compared to Five9’s 37%. If we look to growth rates prior to Covid, Zoom was growing at higher growth rates of about 3X compared to Five9. My main concern with this acquisition is if we will see slower rates of growth for Zoom. I’ll look to management to make sure the cross-selling re-accelerates the customer communications portion for the growth opportunity that was emphasized in the call.

Management teams have to balance giving away their entire strategy to competitors while also keeping investors happy with enough transparency. According to Zoom’s CEO, they chose Five9 because the two companies had synergy and have landed significant deals in education and retail. He also said that building the solution would take many years and that customers don’t want to wait. As stated, I think it’s because Five9 has been working on the AI-driven automation. At one point, when pressed to state why Five9 specifically, the answer was “look at our video assets and look at their AI.”

According to the Investors Call, Zoom will partner with Five9 competitors, and vice versa, with Five9 continuing to partner with Cisco and Microsoft, for example.

Key Points from Previous Zoom Analysis:

In the August 2020 and April 2021 analysis, I emphasized that the story for Zoom Video was changing and the company was doubling TAM with Zoom Phone. Although I’ve discussed Zoom Phone many times – here is one example:

Last August, I pointed out that Zoom’s hardware-as-a-service products allowed companies to replace legacy systems by consolidating software and hardware for one consistent experience. ServiceNow made headlines last year when they chose Zoom Phone to replace their business phone lines by stating, “Going forward, with the addition of Zoom Phone, we're getting a head start on an even more robust experience with Zoom— one-touch communication and collaboration features, plus Zoom-connected conference rooms.”ServiceNow made headlines last year when they chose Zoom Phone to replace their business phone lines by stating, “Going forward, with the addition of Zoom Phone, we're getting a head start on an even more robust experience with Zoom— one-touch communication and collaboration features, plus Zoom-connected conference rooms.”

This is key because as the CEO of Five9 pointed out, Zoom has the very best technology available today with Zoom Phone. The CEO of Five9 also pointed out that “the opportunity here is the millions, tens of millions, even hundreds of millions of phones, that have to be replaced. When you replace the phone system, you replace the contact center.”

Another key point from our ongoing analysis with entries into Zoom from $62 onward is the international opportunity. The United States is a large land mass with very few telephone providers (we call it a duopoly between AT&T and Verizon). There’s Charter, etcetera, but you get the idea. Many other countries don’t have the reliability that the United States has and/or many countries have close borders and require new country codes when they dial a number 1,000 miles or even 500 miles away. Zoom is all about global and that’s key for investors to understand. This isn’t about the United States.

A Note on Twilio:

There will be customers who overlap between Twilio/Flex and Zoom/Five9 and will evaluate both to ultimately choose one. However, Segment is the main pivot we are interested in for Twilio and the post-IDFA world. It’s the omnichannel marketing path that is most interesting for Twilio as it can eat into advertising budgets rather than IT budgets for a call center (like Five9).

I covered our thesis on Twilio here in a 1-hour LTBH webinar and also here in a Q1 post-earnings write-up.

Additional Resources:

Zoom Discusses Two Important Catalysts In Q1 Earnings

Zoom Video Stock: Will History Repeat?

Zoom Video: Stock Speeds Ahead But Can It Sustain? Deep Dive Analysis

Top Cloud Stocks for H2 2020

Zoom Video: 2019 Analysis

H1 2021 Cloud Software Update

 

 

 

 

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H2 2021 Cloud Report: Winners Keep Winning, Plus Okta & Auth0

Posted on July 15, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

We are seeing nearly the exact same names in the Top 10 list for forward growth after the Q1 earnings reports. The good news is we picked strong companies and we didn’t abandon them when they were called Covid stocks. This is what you want although you won’t get the drama that comes with SPACs or small caps. 

We continue to like Zoom, Shopify and Datadog. Of those Zoom has the most room in terms of 1-year and 2-year forward estimates as it’s ranked quite low due to the uncertainty following its banner year last year. If we can get some revisions on those estimates with another quarter of strong reporting, then we could see the company return to all-time highs.

Right now, Zoom is ranked number #6 on current year growth at 51% and is ranked #34 for 1-year forward growth at 20% and then ranked #39 on 2-year forward growth at 17%. That’s quite the gap between current year and 1-year forward on a company that’s reported strong for many years. If the company clears Q2, the uncertainty should start to clear up. You know where we stand – winners keep winning and this product has exceptional product-market fit. We’ve covered this very in-depth on the site across many reports.

Regarding Shopify, I had said that the immense distribution that comes from reaching roughly 4.4 billion social media users across many sites, including TikTok, should not be overlooked in the noise. The combination of a strong product cracking open the pinata on this kind of distribution is what we want in our portfolio for the LTBH positions. Here’s an excerpt from the May update:

“The reason we want to increase our position in Shopify throughout the year is fairly straight forward – Shopify is now reaching billions of consumers through social media. The distribution potential of these partnerships reminds me of an avalanche trigger as Shopify will reach billions with Facebook and Tik Tok and hundreds of millions with Pinterest. Now, they only need to build out the Fulfillment Center and focus on improving their own app; although borrowing these mega size audiences is probably the fastest path to growth for our purposes.”

Datadog is a position that lets us participate in the cloud IaaS growth of Azure and AWS and Google Cloud but through a pureplay. We reviewed this company post-Covid here and also on the 1-Hour LTBH Webinar Update last month.

Twilio’s story hasn’t fully come together yet but we like the Signal acquisition very much. In an effort to get in front of the market, we held a 1- hour LTBH webinar on this company as we like to highlight stocks where the story is not fully known yet our conviction is high.

We’ve also covered Crowdstrike and entered/exited this stock. There is plenty of coverage on Cloudflare on our forum although we have not officially covered this stock. We’ve passed on Palantir due to low commercial account growth. We front run many stocks (technically, we are front running Twilio on the pivot), however, transitioning from government contracts to commercial accounts is tricky in the tech industry. This is because the product was developed and the team built with guaranteed sales and moving into a more “only the strong survive” environment, is a different skillset. We continue to monitor this company.

Notably, we are also pleased that Asana is doing well. It’s the top performing cloud stock this year, up 127% year-to-date with our position up about 100%. I can’t claim credit for this as all of the credit goes to Knox’s technical chops. Atlassian guided for negative growth sequentially and this is being revised upward quite a bit right now with some 60-day revisions up as much as 35%. However, at the roughly 21% growth that management guided for, we like Asana better for now.

Spotlight on Okta and the Auth0 Acquisition

One name that is starting to pop up in my Q1 post-earnings scans is Okta. Okta is a stock we’ve covered in the past yet shied away from during budget constraints in Covid. You can access our prior research here.

Okta

Okta gets an honorable mention for moving back into the top 10 list for both the 1-year and the 2-year forward revenue estimates. In fact, right now it’s estimated to be a percentage point higher than Crowdstrike on the forward estimates. This isn’t organic as it’s due to the Auth0 acquisition, which we discuss in detail below.

Okta: Product Summary

As mentioned, we’ve covered Okta with an in-depth analysis published last year. I’d like to review a few key points from that analysis before we talk about Auth0.

In the previous analysis, we discussed the importance of IAM systems as it allows for the administration of user access across an enterprise and also ensures compliance. This is critical because 60% of data breaches are caused by an organization’s own employees. By having one digital identity for employees and customers, a company can easily modify and monitor a digital identity to allow access to the appropriate assets and in the right context.

IAM became more complicated once employees began to use their own devices and as companies transitioned to the cloud. This is because there was no longer a perimeter. Today there are on-site employees, off-site contractors, hybrid cloud environments, software-as-a-service applications, bring-your-own-device users, UNIX, Windows, Mac, iOS, Android – and soon there will be billions of machine-to-machine connections (internet of things) communicating through APIs. 

Okta is an independent IAM provider that allows customers to integrate with any application or scalable platform. Because Okta is best-in-breed, the company can win over Chief Security Officers (CISOs) that want flexibility and who want to avoid vendor lock-in (i.e., Microsoft). IAM allows access to critical assets, ad not only are switching costs high but CISOs will want a vendor that lets them sleep well at night.

The solution Workforce Identity comprises the majority of the business and simplifies the way an organization’s employees, contractors and partners connect to applications and data from any device (as discussed above). You can think of these as internal employee uses. New Products from Okta include FastPass, which allows for password-less login across multiple devices.

The Customer Identity Cloud enables organizations to transform their own customer’s experience making use of API-level access and seamless customer experiences. This is more external. Dynamic Scale helps enterprises handle traffic bursts up to 500,000 authentications per minute.

Here are the six technologies that IAM comprehensively covers:

  • API security: Allows for single sign-on (SSO) access for B2B ecommerce and API integrations.
  • Customer identity and access management (CIAM) enables organizations to capture and manage customer identity and profile data
  • Identity Analytics (IA) creates risk profiles for user behaviors and manages risk profiles.
  • Identity-as-a-Service (IDaaS) provides single-sign on and identity management as a software service
  • Identity Management Governance (IMG): Helps to minimize risk of data breaches and improves end user productivity
  • Risk-based authentication (RBA): Allow for variation of single-sign on and two-factor authentication

The Auth0 Acquisition

Okta closed on the Auth0 acquisition in May for $6.5 billion.

Auth0 is in the Identity-as-a-Service space (IDaaS) and offers an identity platform suite that supports single sign-on (SSO) through a centralized authentication server. To illustrate, you use single sign-on when you use the same username and password for the I/O Fund website as the I/O Fund forum. It allows you to be authenticated securely through an API.

The company is able to detect password compromises in real-time by checking against a database of hundreds of millions of breached credentials. The compromised user is then notified by email or text and Auth0 can restrict access until the password is reset. The API authentications are integrated with Microsoft Azure, Facebook, Twitter, WordPress, GitHub and Paypal.

Although there are many competitors in the startup scene, Auth0 can claim it’s prevented millions of malicious attempts with up to 1 billion transactions every day and 4 billion logins per month.

The dashboard for administrators offers control over user account provisioning and deletion, and offers full visibility into history and logs. Auth0 also offers personalized user targeting that enables control over features like social logins and multi-factor authentication. There is also automation through rule builders.

Auth0 and Okta are competitors in the customer identity space and are typically both evaluated by customers. The result will be better pricing power and a stronger product when going up against Microsoft on IAM. Okta’s primary source of revenue has been Workforce Identity. Auth0 acquisition will help strengthen the Customer Identity segment and will diversify Okta across both markets for IAM.

Here's how the two work together. What’s being illustrated is that the Workplace Identity often leads to a cross-sell on Customer Identity with lifetime spend of $17 million.

 Source: Investor Presentation

The last private valuation for Auth0 was $1.9 billion when the company raised a $120 million round. The round was led by Salesforce Ventures likely for the Customer 360 product that Salesforce has, which enables a universal identity and first-party data collection through the sign-on process. From there, audiences can be segmented and personalized experiences can be created (similar to our Twilio discussion on Segment). It would make sense that Okta acquired Auth0 to prevent Salesforce from competing with Okta.

Auth0 is a developer-centric company, similar to Twilio. The company has won over developers with its easy-to-use drop-in identity management solution for authentication APIs. The issue with Okta not being developer-centric and competing more at the Microsoft level is that developers prefer to work with companies that offer more support for the SMB-level. The Auth0 acquisition helps with this quite a bit. Okta is more of a sales-driven culture for the enterprise than a developer-centric focus.

Okta has stated they’d like to court developers for advanced use cases, such as the use of biometrics for authentication. Not only is the use of biometrics very complex but it needs to be properly implemented by developers. The top-down approach Okta uses is not well suited for this, yet the bottoms-up approach from Auth0 is well suited.

Financials

Okta is a $1 billion run rate company with the most recent quarter posting $251 million in revenue. This represents an increase of 37% year-over-year. The remaining performance obligations (RPO) was $1.89 billion, for an increase of 52%, with current RPO expected to be recognized this year up 45% compared to the year-ago quarter. Most bullish analysis will focus on RPO growth.

The adjusted earnings the company reported was EPS of ($0.10) compared to ($0.06) in the year-ago quarter. The bearish side to Okta is the ongoing lack of profitability. The company’s losses are increasing in terms of percentage of revenue on a GAAP basis from 36% to 29% of total revenue. On an adjusted basis, the operating losses were 6% of total revenue, a slight improvement from 7% last year.

This is a graph from Okta’s Investor Presentation helps demonstrate the regress:

These losses steepen with the Auth0 acquisition with adjusted EPS for next quarter of ($0.36) to ($0.35) and for fiscal year 2022 of ($1.16) to ($1.13). Forward guidance includes the Auth0 acquisition with total revenue of $295 million to $297 million, or 47% to 48% year-over-year. Last fiscal year, the adjusted EPS was $0.11

To be fair, the free cash flow margin is at 21% and this has improved. The company has $2.5 billion in cash and cash equivalents. This helps the company to satisfy the Rule of 40, which helps to sift through the many key metrics in the cloud and SaaS vertical to establish what companies have a healthy top line combined with a healthy bottom line. There is a great write-up here from Scale Ventures who has specialized in cloud startups for twenty years. They discuss why this is an important rule for public companies. Here’s an excerpt:

The Rule of 40 states that, at scale, a company's revenue growth rate plus profitability margin should be equal to or greater than 40%. SaaS management teams are often driving towards either rapid growth or increased profitability, and the Rule of 40 has become a construct for framing the balance of these two phenomena. Given that increased investment (whether from external or internal sources) is usually required to drive growth, rapid expansion and strong profitability are usually at odds with each other, and finding the right mix between the two can be tricky. a company's revenue growth rate plus profitability margin should be equal to or greater than 40%. SaaS management teams are often driving towards either rapid growth or increased profitability, and the Rule of 40 has become a construct for framing the balance of these two phenomena. Given that increased investment (whether from external or internal sources) is usually required to drive growth, rapid expansion and strong profitability are usually at odds with each other, and finding the right mix between the two can be tricky. 

One of the more interesting slides from Okta’s Auth0 Investor Presentation is the chart showing the 2018 Cohort’s Contribution Margin:

My only concern with the above chart is that Okta has been in business for about twelve years, and therefore, there should be at least ten cohorts with high contribution margins yet the company is still unprofitable.

The company is forecasting a minimum of 35% growth each year through 2026 for revenue of $4 billion. The key drivers will be Customer Identity segment with Auth0, growth in the enterprise customer base, expanding partnerships and international expansion.

We will be keeping Okta on our radar for any re-acceleration in revenue or increased forward guidance as the 35% minimum growth is a solid baseline.

With Auth0, the company is now guiding for fiscal year growth of 45% to 47% year-over-year. There was some criticism from an analyst on the earnings call because Okta did not break up the organic growth in the guidance. The losses are expected to be in the range of adjusted EPS ($1.16) to ($1.13).

Addressable Markets and Valuations

Auth0 was valued at $1.9 billion last July and Okta is paying $6.5 billion, or a 350% increase. The all-stock deal dilutes shareholders by 20%. Notably, Auth0 will be issued shares at $276.21

Okta is known for being downgraded due to valuation concerns. Despite the company having average performance during the 2020 due to Covid, it’s still in the top 10 on forward P/S. By average performance, the 40% range was overshadowed by many other cloud stocks seeing outsized performance. The digital transformation did not show up for Okta in a big way.

Sometimes you can squeeze out a 40 forward P/S but that doesn’t leave too much room in Okta’s current valuation. We will need to see more post-acquisition as we don’t want to front run this right now. If it was in the 20s, we likely would bite.

In the most recent earnings report, Okta stated the identity’s market addressable market was at $80 billion. If we break this down, we find the identity access management (IAM) market was at $12.3 billion in 2020 and will reach $24.1 billion by 2025 for a CAGR of 14.5% during the forecast period of 2021 to 2025. There is another forecast of 13.2% CAGR for IAM between 2018 and 2026 from $9.5 billion to $24.76 billion.

According to Okta in the most recent earnings call, customer identity TAM is $30 billion.

Of the key markets, health care is expected to be the fastest growing market driven by the need to prevent unauthorized users from accessing patient information. Healthcare organizations experience 5 times more attacks than financial institutions.

Asia Pacific is the region expected to drive the most growth with North America holding the largest share.

Conclusion:

Okta is firmly back on radar. What we want to see from this company is increased guidance following the Auth0 acquisition. The baseline of 35% forward growth is an excellent baseline to work from as any increase from here will help the stock quite a bit. There is strategic value to diversification and cross-selling in your customer base. For Okta, the acquisition adds developers plus strengthens their fastest growing segment (customer identity).

For now, the company get honorable mention, and if we see the right set-up, we will take it, but only if we see the right setup. Taking the number two position on 1-year and 2-year forward is a key reason as to why Okta is back on our radar. To be candid, the bottom line is a bit ugly for a company this age and at these growth levels (i.e., not hyper growth), so let’s see if the cross-selling improves this.

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Asana Setup (5/20/21) – up 85% in a month

Posted on July 1, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund
Asana Setup (5/20/21) – up 85% in a month

Asana is the best performing cloud stock this year. The I/O Fund discusses how they identified this opportunity by using a blend of fundamentals and technicals to remain with the stock through the growth selloff. I/O Fund also added to the position in May for an 85% gain in under a month.

In February, the I/O Fund entered Asana (ASAN) and we held this position through the growth rotation, On May 20, we added to Asana (at $33.25) as a momentum play and held a webinar explaining our entry.

  • It was confirmed that Asana was outlining a common uptrend pattern that we see with tech growth.
  • Others, such as Roku, Datadog, Nvidia (overlapping uptrends), have followed this pattern as well.
  • We saw some significant bullish patterns within the volume, which typically leads a breakout. We were getting evidence that “smart money” was accumulating shares at these levels.
  • On top of our entry at $33.25, and identifying another buying opportunity at $34.50, we alerted subscribers that a breakout above the all-time high ($44.00) would also be a good entry point.

On June 18, we trimmed a third of our Asana position at $55, since our first target was met. That’s a solid 65% return in under a month.

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Fiverr Q1 Update

Posted on May 13, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

I covered Fiverr here in November 2020 as part of our free newsletter.  In this report, I made the case that the trends we were seeing from Fiverr were not dependent on Covid, but rather accelerated by the pandemic. 

I argued that these trends would be sustained post-pandemic and that the shift to a more remote and flexible workforce was permanent, especially in younger generations.  Six months later, lockdowns have eased amidst the vaccination rollout, but we continue to see positive momentum in Fiverr’s platform.

I/O Fund is looking for signs of high-level business performance among indiscriminate selling in growth tech. When the value rotation ends, I believe FVRR is one of the stocks poised to benefit most. Moving forward, FVRR is unlikely to see triple digit revenue growth again. However, consensus projections show 40% revenue CAGR over the next three years, with tremendous growth on the bottom line as the company improves profitability. 

Below I examine Q1 results and guidance, evidence of increased usage and engagement of the platform, and valuation.

Q1 Results and 2021 Guidance      

Fiverr announced Q1 results on May 6, comfortably beating top and bottom line estimates while also raising guidance.  Revenue came in at $68.3M in the quarter, representing an acceleration to 100% YoY growth.  Non-GAAP EPS of -$0.01 beat by $0.10, while adjusted EBITDA improved to ($0.7M) compared to ($2.9M) in Q1 ‘20. 

Active buyers grew 56% YoY to 3.8M, an acceleration from the 45% growth rate Fiverr announced last quarter.  Spend per buyer came in at $216, representing 22% YoY growth.  Take rate improved 10 basis points YoY to 27.2%, while the company also announced an impressive 84.1% gross margin. 

Fiverr guided for $74M in revenue for Q2 (+57% YoY) and positive EBITDA of $6M.  For the FY 2021, Fiverr raised revenue guidance to $305M at the midpoint.  The company is now expecting YoY revenue growth of 61% in 2021 versus previous guidance for a 48% YoY growth rate.  The FY outlook came in 6% above consensus estimates.  Management also guided for positive adjusted EBITDA of $22M at the midpoint, representing 142% full year EBITDA growth. 

Continued Momentum

In the company’s Shareholder Letter, Fiverr management talked about its expectation for continued strength and an elevated spend level that will be sustained well into the future.  The platform saw its most ever monthly app downloads in March 2021, reaching 215,000 downloads from US app stores (+57% YoY).  US monthly active users grew 40% YoY in March 2021, representing Fiverr’s highest ever monthly growth rate.

The Fiverr app is currently ranked 31st in “Business” on Apple’s app store and 22nd on Google Play.  When I covered Fiverr on November 20, 2020, the app had a ranking of 39th in “Business” on Apple’s app store and 26th on Google Play.  This data indicates that we are seeing continued strength from Fiverr’s platform into mid-May, even as over 32% of the US population is now fully vaccinated and over 45% of the population has received at least one dose.       

We continue to see evidence that Fiverr’s platform is performing better than ever as lockdowns ease.  Global internet and engagement trends from Alexa show Fiverr’s site currently ranks 139th in traffic and engagement over the past 90 days.   

 

Source: Alexa

Fiverr’s ranking has improved 79 spots from mid-February, and is currently sitting at peak traffic levels.   

Over the last 6 months, total visits to Fiverr have trended upwards and the platform is currently near peak levels with 60.6M average daily visits (+3% from 11/20).  Fiverr ranks 530th globally in total visits according to SimilarWeb.    

Source: SimilarWeb   

In comparison to my coverage of Fiverr in November 2020, we continue to see evidence of increased usage and engagement.  The trends towards adaptation of remote work and shifting businesses online are examples of lasting changes brought about by the Covid-19 pandemic.  A key component of the “New Economy” includes more remote and flexible work, where Fiverr continues to show it will be a key beneficiary.

Valuation

FVRR stock has historically commanded a premium valuation as the company has an exceptional revenue growth rate, 84.1% gross margins, and is already profitable on the bottom line.  FVRR stock currently trades at 16.0x EV/NTM revenue after reaching a peak valuation of above 40x EV/NTM revenue in early 2021. 

The sell off in high multiple stocks has hit FVRR hard and the stock is over 50% off all-time-high prices of $336.  16.0x EV/NTM revenue is the lowest forward valuation FVRR stock has traded at in the last 9 months.     

Conclusion

We are unlikely to see a triple digit revenue growth rate again from Fiverr as the company now faces tougher comps. But consensus projections show expectations of 62% YoY growth in 2021 and a 40% revenue CAGR over the next 3 years.  Analysts are also expecting tremendous growth on the bottom line as Fiverr ramps up profitability, with consensus projections for EPS of $2.09 in FY 2023 compared to the $0.29 FY 2020 EPS Fiverr just announced.        

When the value rotation eventually ends and we see a rotation back to high growth tech stocks, FVRR is one of the stocks poised to benefit the most.  We are looking for signs of high-level business performance during the indiscriminate selling in tech, and Fiverr continues to show why its business is performing better than ever. 

Disclosure: I am long FVRR; I/O Fund is long FVRR

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Earnings Update: TWLO, DDOG, MGNI and ROKU

Posted on May 10, 2021June 30, 2026 by io-fund

If you want to see Knox’s recent thoughts on the market, please click here. He wrote out a long explanation on the forum as to what he’s seeing and correlates this to inter-market analysis, including money flow, breadth and sector rotations.

Below, I discuss TWLO, DDOG, MGNI and ROKU. We review what was pertinent from the earnings reports. Our thesis has not changed on these 4 companies.

Also, I have a LTBH webinar planned for next Monday to go over the IDFA changes from Apple with a highlight on Magnite and also Roku. We will briefly touch base on all ad-tech stocks we own and IDFA but this is mainly a CTV ads webinar from the product perspective. I’ll send instructions on the LTBH webinar mid-week.

Last but not least, if you have not transitioned over to the new website io-fund.com, please do so soon. You will need to set a new password. The Beth.Technology password will not work on the new site. You must also use the same email address you signed up with. We are redirecting the URLs on Beth.Technology this week in anticipation of our forum launching next week. Our old site will be archived and new content will not be published starting 5/13. Thank you! J

Twilio:

We recently had our second LTBH webinar on Twilio. I thought it was important to highlight this company for the important pivot taking place. In the webinar, we stressed the first-party customer data platform and why this was an important strategic approach for a company that has PII from phone numbers in its core product and PII from emails from the SendGrid acquisition. The vehicle to maximize Twilio’s position is Segment, and the company is showing us very clearly the future for by separating R&D into three departments and placing the former CEO of Segment in charge of two of those departments.

The earnings call also communicated the importance of Segment with management stating two-thirds of their sales calls centered around this product. There was an analyst on the call who nearly verbatim discussed what we talked about on our webinar. I find management’s response encouraging as to the accuracy of our thesis (and, I guess good to know that Alex Zukin shares in this exact thesis).

Alex ZukinAlex Zukin

That makes perfect sense. And then another again kind of big picture question, if you think about the rise of IDFA, the demise of – potential demise of third party cookies, it's our thesis that we're entering the world where the notion of CDP for first-party data is going to rapidly accelerate in strategic performance.

You guys mentioned – I think George you mentioned that Segment is now in two thirds or was in two thirds of your customer conversations. I guess a couple of angles around this question. Is this something – is this future world something you contemplated when making that acquisition? Are you, you know just now reaping even greater amount of strategic benefit? Just talk to us about how you think about segments in this new world, both integrated with the rest of your solutions as part of the platform, but also on a stand-alone basis with respect to Strategic impact to all these things.

Jeff LawsonJeff Lawson

This is Jeff. I'll answer, unless George, you want to?

George HuGeorge Hu

Go ahead, Jeff. I'll chime in.

Jeff LawsonJeff Lawson

Well, I'll give my point of view and I'll let George give his point of view. You know collaboration is the answer and is harder in this virtual world.

My point of view is yes, you know we did think about the importance of first party data and how every company is having to become great digital marketers and great digital executors, and you can't necessarily rely on some of the, let's say, sloppier ways of acquiring and re-engaging your customers when you've got a lot of third party data floating around that. So we did believe – we do believe that the CDP market in and of itself as a standalone becomes ever more important to companies, not just because of the plurality of systems you have to figure out how to make sense of, but also because outside their walls it's getting more complex to actually target and reach your own customers.So it becomes even more important that once you meet a customer, so there's your marketing and they buy something or whatever it is, you do a really good job of continually engaging them, because going back out to kind of reacquire that customer is getting harder and harder and harder. And so companies have to treat their existing customers incredibly well, and those relationships are getting even more valuable. And then you add in all the value of – and then integrating that and creating that journey that's going to achieve that using Twilio's customer engagement cloud, that is the next level of benefit on top of the core CDP.

Twilio grew revenue 62% year-over-year for $590 million and guided for $596 million next quarter, or 49% year-over-year at the midpoint. This represents a 4% raise above consensus estimates of $579 million, according to FactSet.

Adjusted EPS came in at $0.05, or $0.15 ahead of estimates. Active customer accounts totaled 235,000 at the end of the Q1 compared to 190,000 in 2020, representing 24% growth YoY.  Dollar-based net expansion rate came in at 133% for the quarter compared to an organic DBNER of 135% in Q1 of 2020.  Gross margins were 55% for the quarter and the company recorded a -2% free cash flow margin.    

The blemish on the report was Twilio’s forward EPS as the company guided for adjusted losses of $0.14 per share compared to analyst expectations of adjusted losses of 4 cents per share. We posted on the forum that this does not concern us as the company had planned investments that did not materialize in 2020 due to Covid. These investments are focused on enterprise sales, flex and new growth products, plus core systems and infrastructure. Twilio management expects these investments to generate losses in the short term, but in the long term it will allow the company to grow at elevated levels.

Additional Research:

Twilio 2021 PDF here

Twilio 2019 PDF here

Datadog:

Datadog allows us exposure to the market that AWS, Azure and Google Cloud participates in but with a pureplay. If the tech giants are communicating that cloud infrastructure-as-a-service is one of the most critical markets in the future, then who are we to argue with this by not investing in the leader across cloud monitoring products?

The company capitalizes on the trend that vendor-specific is becoming unpopular due to issues that vendor lock-in creates. On the flip side, the company competes with open-source options, such as OpenTelemetry.

Here is what the company stated as to why customers choose Datadog in light of many competitors: “We lean into open-source format and libraries to instrument obligations for a very long time. And we support a large number of them. The way we see the problem is not like what matters is not with technology we use to get from here to there. What matters is to solve the end-to-end problem for our customers. And to make it as easy as possible for them to just plug us in and everything just work everything to show that we don’t get our mess, a gigantic mess with all these different technologies and applications and clouds, everything else. We turn that into something that the understanding is well ordered, without any effort.”What matters is to solve the end-to-end problem for our customers. And to make it as easy as possible for them to just plug us in and everything just work everything to show that we don’t get our mess, a gigantic mess with all these different technologies and applications and clouds, everything else. We turn that into something that the understanding is well ordered, without any effort.”

Datadog deserves an updated LTBH report as the product has evolved since we last covered the company with the acquisition of Sqreen. Keep an eye out for this after we get through cloud earnings.

I had said on a Motley Fool podcast in February that we faced a unique environment for cloud stocks this year with a tight pack of cloud stocks guiding between 20-30% and then another tight pack guiding between 30-40% on forward growth. Only Snowflake and Kingsoft Cloud were guiding higher than 50%. We provided a chart here. This is unusual as cloud guidance usually tells us our leaders in advance. Tougher comps from last year require cloud companies to show endurance and prove that any growth last year was not a pull forward from the one-time event of Covid.

You can view my explanation of cloud valuations going into 2021 here at minute 2:15 – YouTube linkYouTube link

What we want to see are cloud companies breaking through the ceiling of 40% growth. That is exactly what Datadog did this quarter and also provided >40% guidance for next quarter and full-year guidance, as well.

Notably, the tone on the earnings call was that their guidance is conservative in light of many unknowns. I can’t guarantee this but I’m hoping to see Datadog come in above guidance in the future, per comments like this: “Now, some notes on our guidance, while usage growth was strong in Q1, when providing guidance as usual, we use more conservative assumptions.”, we use more conservative assumptions.”

The company grew revenue 51% YoY to $198.5M, representing a 6% beat above consensus estimates.  Management attributed the revenue beat in Q1 to stronger than expected usage growth from existing customers. On the bottom line, EPS came in at $0.06, topping consensus estimates by $0.03.  The company logged a record EBITDA total of $24M in the quarter and free cash flow of $44M (22% FCF Margin). 

Customers with $100K+ ARR totaled 1,437 at the end of Q1, representing growth of 50% YoY.  These customers generate over 75% of Datadog’s ARR.

 

Additionally, Datadog announced that 75% of its customers are using two or more products at the end of Q1.  This is up from 63% in Q1 of 2020. 

For Q2, Datadog guided for $212M of revenue, or 51% year-over-year at the midpoint, beating the consensus estimate by 8%. The company is expecting $0.03 of EPS and $10M of operating income in Q2. 

For the FY21, DDOG raised revenue guidance to $885M, or 47% year-over-year at the midpoint, and 6% above consensus estimates. The company is expecting EPS of $0.15 and operating income of $50M for the full year.             

I touch on Datadog here around minute 53:00 – click here for YouTube link

Additional Research:
Datadog Premium Research
H1 2021 Cloud Software Update

Magnite:

We laid out our thoughts here on Magnite and our conviction and thesis remains the same. We go over why Magnite’s Q1 report came in weaker than expected and why we aren’t concerned as management has provided enough statements Q2’s guidance being stronger than expected. We take short-term misses as long as guidance remains strong and the story is intact.

Per my post on the forum, I do believe some of the weakness we saw in ad-tech today is due to IDFA changes from the April 30th iOS update. There was a report from Flurry, as reported by Mashable, over the weekend that stated “only 4 percent of iOS users in the United States let apps track them.” Here’s the full post from Flurry. I believe this partly caused the weakness today in TTD, MGNI, Unity plus other ad-tech companies as there is a lot of confusion in regards to IDFA.

On one hand, we have companies like Unity saying it’ll impact low single digits for their revenue, and on the other hand we see sensational comments from mobile analysts that this is an Apocalypse and “Book of Revelation” stuff  

I’ve been covering the IDFA specifically since October of 2019 after attending Advertising Week and I followed up again in 2020 with free version here. I also covered Facebook’s tracking behaviors in-depth for public investors around Q1 2018, when I criticized the company for not talking about Audience Network in their earnings calls (the IDFA threatens Facebook’s Audience Network the most). 

As the lead technology analyst at the I/O Fund, I made sure my readers were up to speed on the IDFA, such as the July 2020 Update and also here when I first covered Magnite. 

With that said, I don’t think information is easily accessible to public investors on this topic, and meanwhile, iOS 14.5 rolled out at the end of April. Therefore, seeing the reaction to Magnite and The Trade Desk today, Citi’s downgrade, and Flurry’s report, I think it makes sense to have our next LTBH webinar on the IDFA this Monday with a primary focus on Magnite and Roku but we will touch on other ad-tech stocks we own too (Unity, Snap, Pinterest, etcetera).

The summary of my thoughts can be found in the links above if you want the information before Monday. Similar to the tide of all boats, I believe we will see the supply side come out better than the demand side – but that’s my personal opinion and the way that we’ve structured I/O Fund with our positions. I’ll present the information from a product perspective and you can make your own conclusions when we review this on Monday.

Although I don’t think it will be Apocalypse, I do believe it will affect the ad industry enough that we should do the next LTBH webinar on this topic. We will dive deeper into Magnite and Roku, as well.

Magnite’s Earnings:

I had said that Magnite is not the “shiniest company to analyze if you’re a financial analyst” and this earnings report validated that statement. There have been two acquisitions and a major rebranding, so what we really have is really three companies reporting earnings: Telaria, Rubicon and SpotX.

Magnite reported revenue growth of 67%, up 18% on a pro-forma basis. CTV revenue was up 32% on a pro-forma basis or $12 million. Compare this to last quarter’s report which was 69% revenue growth, up 20% on a pro-forma basis, with CTV revenue up 53% on a pro-forma basis, or $15.4 million. Therefore, Q1 was meaningfully weaker than Q4 on CTV (more on this below).

The company was profitable on an adjusted basis at $0.03 EPS compared to a loss of $0.06 EPS in the year-ago quarter.

SpotX results showed considerable strength on CTV with overall revenue excluding traffic acquisition costs of $31.2 million. CTV revenue was at $19.7 million, up 70% year-over-year.

Management is guiding for revenue of $94 million with CTV revenue of $32 million, at the midpoint. This represents 90% growth if the company had closed the acquisition on SpotX on April 1st rather than April 30th. The company raised its long-term revenue targets from 20% to 25% and had raised long-term adjusted EBITDA targets to 30% to 35% in the last quarter.

This comment here provides color for the weaker-than-expected CTV revenue:

Yes, so I think, March was a bit of a disappointment for us at Magnite. I think if you look at the combined company going forward, you're just going to have a greater line of CTV products that each kind of address a different sliver of the marketplace. We talked a bit about the SpotX managed service business, which was able to extract linear dollars into CTV capability that we did not build out at Magnite, but saw as something incredibly attractive in its products, along with a few other products. But as we said, severe acceleration in Q2 for Magnite's business, and if you look at the two combined, you're 90% plus growth range for Q2. So, so all is well there.which was able to extract linear dollars into CTV capability that we did not build out at Magnite, but saw as something incredibly attractive in its products, along with a few other products. But as we said, severe acceleration in Q2 for Magnite's business, and if you look at the two combined, you're 90% plus growth range for Q2. So, so all is well there.

Another analyst also asked about March, which management provided this answer:

Suffice to say, Magnite is growing in terms of — its back to where we always thought it would be and then some. So, I think that this isn't a case of — in q2, particularly SpotX coming in and saving the show, if you will, I think both are growing exceptionally well. And any kind of slowdown that we witness in Magnite in March has been more than made up for, but David, do you have any more color to bring to that?its back to where we always thought it would be and then some. So, I think that this isn't a case of — in q2, particularly SpotX coming in and saving the show, if you will, I think both are growing exceptionally well. And any kind of slowdown that we witness in Magnite in March has been more than made up for, but David, do you have any more color to bring to that?

And there was yet another question about the weaker guidance in March. Management stressed how early in the cycle the Connected TV market is and how some inventory is still being sold direct versus programmatic.

So, I think that there's in any kind of nascent marketplace and CTV is certainly nascent … I would say that Q2 is behaving what in excess of what we would have thought going into it, and that Q1 was strong going in, and then had a weaker March. And, again, probably a handful of reasons there, but nothing systemic or anything that takes the bloom off the rose in terms of our position in CTV or the attractiveness of that marketplace.

As I said, we are comfortable with short-term misses as long as the story is intact and guidance remains strong. There was also more to the earnings call in terms of IDFA, which we will unpack during the upcoming webinar on Monday.

Past Magnite Research here

Roku:

I’ve written a library of research about this company from very early-on. If you want more information as to how we arrived here, I encourage you to read my analysis as it dates back to a time when the market doubted Roku and we withstood two 60% drawdowns.

On that note, Roku is the perfect example of how long it takes for a trend to play out. While many investors are conditioned for instant gratification following last year, we know that tech trends are a 3-5 year exit or longer. In the meantime, our job is to make sure a company is consistently reporting along the thesis we’ve laid out.

Here’s what I want to emphasize: the 3-5 year investment period for Roku begins this year. If someone were to learn about Roku for the first time today, I’d say they’re right on time. In fact, there is less risk now as Roku is a mature and consistent performer. As an analyst, I’m on cruise control with this stock as it’s been performing as we laid out nearly three years ago.

Rarely, do we get a full-stack opportunity that is centered in the middle of a future trend. It’s my belief that Apple’s IDFA deprecation will positively impact Roku – and I hope a few others we have picked out too.

That’s what my library of research answered through the past few years. We will touch on this in the upcoming webinar, as well. The simple answer is Roku delivers the targeting capabilities of mobile with the completion rates of Pay TV. This was outlined in May of 2018.

“For example, according to Nielsen in March, ratings, linear TV ratings for adults 18 to 24 was down 22%. Q1 TV ad spending was down 11% and according to Media Radar. Meanwhile, we doubled, monetized video ad impressions on the platform, ad spending by major agency holding companies with Roku more than doubled. We saw strength really up and down the ad business.”linear TV ratings for adults 18 to 24 was down 22%. Q1 TV ad spending was down 11% and according to Media Radar. Meanwhile, we doubled, monetized video ad impressions on the platform, ad spending by major agency holding companies with Roku more than doubled. We saw strength really up and down the ad business.”

Since my coverage began, Roku has become an even bigger force in the Connected TV ad space. OneView is Roku’s move into the demand side while The Roku Channel provides original content to optimize ad formats.

This sums up some of Roku’s strength competitively speaking:

I will say that the use of OneView to buy media on Roku, whether that's media we're selling, for example, a video ad that runs in The Roku Channel or an ad bought from a publisher on Roku through one year. That segment is growing even faster because, of course, we have data and identity and optimization capabilities to help them do that better than were they to buy through a third-party DSP.we have data and identity and optimization capabilities to help them do that better than were they to buy through a third-party DSP.

And also here …

“The second part of your question was about volume and CPMs. Our product remains a premium product. If anything, we've added, better data, better targeting, better measurement, newer ad products over time. And I think that, that bodes well for continuing to be able to command premium CPMs, but I will also call out to the earlier question from Ralph that streaming is increasingly also a performance media.”we've added, better data, better targeting, better measurement, newer ad products over time. And I think that, that bodes well for continuing to be able to command premium CPMs, but I will also call out to the earlier question from Ralph that streaming is increasingly also a performance media.”

Roku also recently acquired Nielsen’s advanced video advertising business and is expected to close in Q2 2021. The automatic content recognition and dynamic ad insertion will help Roku show different ads to different households based on Nielsen data.

We’ve written quite a bit on Roku and I hesitate to spend more time on the company when we have other stocks we are forming a thesis on and/or need a reiteration of our conviction. However, that should not be confused for lack of conviction by any means as Roku has received my highest conviction for some time and continues to.

Here’s a clip we created of me explaining Roku in October of last year – view on YouTube here.

Roku and The Trade Desk: 2019 Analysis
Roku Update & What’s Next in June
Disney+ Killing it on the App Store – Roku Downstream
Check-in: ROKU, TTD, BABA, UBER, TLRA, and upcoming 5G – Nov 6th
Checking in on Tech Trends and My Current Convictions – January 2020
The Crucial Difference Between Roku and Netflix
Q4 Earnings Analysis for Shopify, Roku, Fiverr And Palantir

On Earnings …

Roku delivered excellent Q1 results on May 6th led by strong growth in advertising and the expansion of content distribution partnerships. Total revenue grew 79% YoY to $574.2M, representing a 17% beat above consensus estimates. 

The growth was led by platform revenue, which increased 101% YoY to $466.5M. Gross profit rose 132% YoY to $326.8M while operating income came in at $75.8M after negative operating income $55.2M in the year-ago quarter. 

Roku also announced positive EBITDA of $125.9M in Q1 from a loss of $16.3M in the year-ago quarter. Roku added 2.4M active accounts in Q1 to reach 53.6M in total, representing 35% growth YoY. 

Streaming Hours increased 49% YoY to 18.3 billion, while average revenue per user (ARPU) grew 32% YoY to $32.14. 

For Q2, Roku management is guiding for $615M of revenue at the midpoint (73% YoY growth), representing a 13% raise above consensus estimates. The company is also guiding for total gross profit to rise 104% YoY to $300M and EBITDA of $65M after recording negative EBITDA of $3M in Q2 ’20. 

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