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Category: Semiconductors

Nvidia Fiscal Q3 Earnings: The China Impact

Posted on November 22, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Nvidia’s Fiscal Q3 earnings report was spectacular on all accounts. The data center growth for this quarter was bonkers againbonkers again with growth of 279% year-over-year. The FQ4 guide implies data center growth that will accelerate to roughly 370% next quarter.

Overall revenue beat by $2 billion this quarter for $18.12B in revenue, up 206%. For next quarter, the guide beat by another $2 billion for guidance of $20B compared to $17.9B expected. 

EPS of $4.02 compares to $3.39 expected. Gross margin grew to 74% compared to 71.5% expected.

Yet, the stock is down 1.5% after hours. In our pre-earnings write-up that was published this morning in our free newsletter, I had stated: “The topping-out scenario is that Nvidia’s buying is exhausted, and there isn’t one fundamental analyst on earth that can help investors figure out when this will happen.” I explained this is best left to technical analysts as there are many forces which weigh on a stock. It was unlikely Nvidia missed due to the CFO’s visibility on supply, yet the win-win scenario is that we don’t need the market to continue to reward Nvidia. It already has rewarded Nvidia, and if the market is getting tired of Nvidia’s exceptional results, then we will simply take gains and buy again lower.

Essentially, what we are seeing after hours has nothing to do with the company’s financials. When buyers become exhausted, it means a story is well-known. It’s not logical, it’s merely what makes a market.

The flaw in Nvidia’s report is the loss of China revenue. It can be deceiving because demand is so high, that Nvidia will absorb those losses in the upcoming quarter. However, there are implications in the medium-term, which we had also written about in our pre-earnings report.

The long-term thesis is very much intact, which is that Nvidia is on its way to become the world’s most valuable company someday. Data center GPUs are only part of the story. Automotive has the potential to exceed data center GPUs, and there’s also software which we covered here.

In the near-term, Nvidia investors should keep an eye on the broader semiconductor sector, which looks weak, and there’s a chance the China impact drags on FY2025/FY2026 estimates until we get a new fiscal year guide next quarter. I also touch base on a few positives that are important to keep an eye on.

Revenue and EPS:

Nvidia reported revenue of $18.1B, up 206% Y/Y and well above consensus of $16.1B and above guidance of $16B. However, the magnitude of the revenue beat of 12% was smaller than the 22% beat in the July quarter. Non-GAAP EPS was $4.02, well above consensus of $3.39.

Revenue Segments:

  • Data Center revenue of $14.5B, up 279% YoY and up 41% QoQ
  • Gaming revenue of $2.9B, up 81% YoY and up 15% QoQ
  • Pro Visualization revenue of $416M, up 108% YoY and up 10% QoQ
  • Automotive revenue of $261M, up 4% YoY and up 3% QoQ
  • OEM & Other Revenue of $73M, flattish YoY and up 11% Q/Q

Nvidia provided revenue guidance of $20B +/- + 2% above consensus of $17.9B with adjusted GM guidance of 75.5% and Non-GAAP Operating Margin guidance of 64.5%.

More on Data Center Segment:

Our pre-earnings report highlighted the release of the H200. Major cloud players such as AWS, Google Cloud, Microsoft Azure, and Oracle cloud will be among the first CSPs to offer H200 inferences starting in Q2 of 2024. The H200 is likely to come with a higher ASP than the H100 due to HBM3e memory. The H100 has an ASP in the $30,000 to $40,000 range. The higher ASP may not contribute to margins necessarily, as HBM3e is costly.

At $40,000 per H100, that equals $29B in H100 sales alone, and when you add the A100 and other data center sales at a current run rate of $15B, the Data Center segment could report total revenue of $44B in FY24 (CY23). When you equal this out across the upcoming quarters, it looks something like this based on our estimates and Piper Sandler estimates.

Nvidia is expected to report approximately $16.5B in revenue for the January quarter. Keybanc has data center revenue at $101 billion for next year. If we assume China is $20 billion of this (and worst case, doesn’t get absorbed) then it will look something like this:

Scenario 1:

Q1 FY25: $18B

Q2 FY25: $19.5B

Q3 FY25: $21B

Q4 FY25: $23B

However, it’s likely the China revenue does get absorbed even if analysts are forced to revise estimates for now. This means that estimates may go down this quarter, and then be revised up again when management discusses the fiscal year guide. If so, it would look more like this:

Scenario 2:

Q1 FY25: $20B

Q2 FY25: $24B

Q3 FY25: $27B

Q4 FY25: $30B

That’s based on Keybanc’s fairly optimistic estimate of over $100B next year in data center revenue. Here are data center revenue numbers that are more conservative from Piper Sandler. Due to the QoQ growth in this model, next quarter’s fiscal year guide is paramount for us Nvidia bulls.

Scenario 3:

My opinion is that Scenario 1 is a safe assumption as it combines continued growth in the data center with some China impact.

Margins:

Gross margin of 74% beat guidance of 71.5%. As stated in our pre-ER write-up, these are historic margins for Nvidia.

The company reported an operating margin of 57.5% for income of $10.4 billion. The adjusted operating margin of 63.8% compares to a margin of 26.4% last quarter.

Net income of $9.2 billion represents a margin of 51% compared to 11.5% net margin in the year ago quarter. This is a combination of data center strength and being at the cyclical trough last year for gaming.

Cash:

Cash flow margins are the best in the Mag 7 at 40.5% operating cash flow this quarter and 38.9% in free cash flow margin. Meta has the second best FCF margin at 34.7% followed by Apple at 29.7%.

Nvidia had $18.3B in cash and marketable securities, up from $16.0B last quarter and debt of $9.7B in-line with the July quarter of $9.7B.

The company utilized cash of $3.91 billion towards shareholder returns, including $3.81 billion in share repurchases and $99 million in cash dividends. Last quarter, an additional $25 billion was authorized for share repurchases.

Earnings Call:

The China Impact:

We had written the following in our pre-earnings report:

“The Red Scare:

What’s not to be forgotten in the excitement of the product road map is China, which has been the predominant risk for semiconductor stocks dating back to 2018. Last year, the government restricted Nvidia from selling its two most powerful chips to China, the A100 and H100. To circumvent these restrictions, Nvidia designed slightly less powerful chips called the A800 and H800. As reported by Reuters, the H800 has as much computing power as the H100 in certain settings. For the United States, these chips are important to block as they strengthen China’s military.

Last month, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced updated rules focuses on computing performance by removing the bandwidth parameter and focusing exclusively on how powerful a chip is, as well as performance density, which will prevent companies from working loopholes. According to an official who spoke to Reuters, “the U.S. will require companies to notify the government about semiconductors whose performance is just below the guidelines before they are shipped to China.”

Although this is a medium-term issue for Nvidia, analysts believe the demand is high enough today that the company shouldn’t have any issues absorbing the 20% to 25% loss in its data center segment from tighter export restrictions to China. Looking further out for FY2025, Keybanc sees a $5 impact to Nvidia’s $25.62 EPS estimate, and up to a $20B impact to its data center segment with current estimates at $101B for the data center in FY2025.

Eventually, demand may settle – especially as more competitors step up – and investors should pencil-in losing China revenue as a risk that is materializing now, with the revenue impact likely to be felt in FY2025.”

It’s tempting to shrug off the loss of revenue given Nvidia beat/raised next quarter, which is the quarter when 20% to 25% of revenue from China and other restricted countries will be cut off.  However, the Street is likely to be cautious tomorrow because FQ4 will be seen as an outlier where demand can absorb the 20% to 25%. Basically, the outsized demand will be transitory whereas the U.S. Department of Commerce is cutting off 20% to 25% permanently. There was some talk about Nvidia serving these countries with a less powerful chip, but the restrictions are blacklisting Nvidia’s AI chips (specifically) so this workaround won’t be an easy feat.

By the time Nvidia comes up with a workaround, even if it’s acceptable, those countries will have designed their own domestic silicon. Even if this eventually does get absorbed, analysts will likely revised down their estimates for a few quarters out in FY2025 or next fiscal year FY2026. This may, in turn, impact Nvidia’s valuation. Per the CFO: “The export controls will have a negative effect on our China business, and we do not have good visibility into the magnitude of that impact even over the long term.”

This does not derail Nvidia’s thesis by any means and the timing could not have been better with the restrictions happening during a period of outsized demand. As pointed out on the call, Nvidia will be tapped by many countries that are not blacklisted into the foreseeable future: “National investment in compute capacity is a new economic imperative, and serving the sovereign AI infrastructure market represents a multibillion-dollar opportunity over the next few years.”

InfiniBand up 500% YoY:

We covered InfiniBand a few years back when our site covered the Mellanox acquisition. Mellanox was an important acquisition as it helped Nvidia align its architecture with speed by supporting Virtual Protocol Interconnect (VPI), which allows the ubiquitous Ethernet to provide bandwidth as cheap as possible, and InfiniBand to deliver higher throughput and fewer bottlenecks during high loads. Today, this acquisition is paying off.

Per the opening remarks: “Networking now exceeds a $10 billion annualized revenue run-rate. Strong growth was driven by exceptional demand for InfiniBand, which grew fivefold year-on-year […] Azure uses over 29,000 miles of InfiniBand tabling, enough to circle the globe.”

InfiniBand growing five-fold exceeds overall data center revenue given the $15B in total data center revenue last fiscal year is expected to grow 200% to $45 billion at the exit of this fiscal year. Networking revenue tripled and data center compute grew four-fold.

The discussion on the call is that companies are standardizing with InfiniBand as the “computing fabric” increases the effectiveness of AI infrastructure by 20% to 30%. InfiniBand is nearly ubiquitous in supercomputing and is becoming popular with AI/Big Data applications on a large scale for high performance clusters. The benefits of the software defined fabric is that it’s low latency, high bandwidth and low management cost.

Recurring Software Revenue at $1 Billion:

Going off what we know, recuring software revenue may have doubled over the past few quarters CFO had stated: “hundreds of millions of dollars annually” and it’s now being stated the standalone software business will be worth $1 billion next quarter: “We are on track to exit the year at an annualized revenue run-rate of $1 billion for our recurring software support and services offerings.”

Keep an eye on this as it’s likely to be the leading story over the next few years – especially as automotive ramps.

AI Factories:

This was probably the most important question in terms of Nvidia’s growth potential. There’s nothing revelatory being said, per se, but it’s nice to hear some of the bigger picture repeated.

Question: “Because when I just look at the trajectory of your Data Center, it will be close to nearly 30% of all the spending in Data Center next year. So what metrics are you keeping an eye on to inform you that you can continue to grow? Just where are we in the adoption curve of your products into the generative AI market?” -Vivek Arya, Bank of America

Answer: “Generative AI is the largest TAM expansion of software and hardware that we've seen in several decades. At the core of it, what's really exciting is that what was largely a retrieval-based computing approach – almost everything that you do is retrieved off of storage somewhere – has been augmented now, added with a generative method. And its changed almost everything. […]

And one of the areas that is really impactful is the software industry, which is about $1 trillion or so, has been building tools that are manually used over the last couple decades. And now, there's a whole new segment of software called co-pilots and assistants. Instead of manually used, these tools will have co- pilots to help you use it, and so instead of licensing software – we will continue to do that of course, but we will also hire co-pilots and assistants to help us use the software. […]

But there's a new class of data centers, and this new class of data centers, unlike the data centers of the past, where you have a lot of applications running used by a great many people that are different tenants that are using the same infrastructure, and that data center stores a lot of files. These new data centers are very few applications, if not one application, used by basically one tenant, and it processes data. It trains models, and it generates tokens. It generates AI. And we call these new data centers AI factories.”

Translation: If you separate AI from traditional data centers (and where data centers are headed), then Nvidia represents far more than 30%.

Conclusion:

We are tracking TSM, semiconductor indexes, and Nvidia’s chart for signs of exhaustion as outlined here. We are seeking a win-win scenario where we can lock-in gains, and then use that cash to buy Nvidia again at lower levels. As stated, Nvidia’s thesis is firmly intact. Rather, the issue is the market is seeing very narrow leadership and Nvidia is the defacto leader within that narrow leadership. The saying in Wall Street is that pigs get slaughtered. That’s a rough way of saying 200% gains YTD should be approached carefully as the goal is to make real money, not paper money. Of course, 200% will be nothing by the time we are done with this position. But for this year, it’s good enough. 

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Big Tech companies continue to invest in AI

Posted on November 15, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Big Tech capex is a leading indicator for AI semiconductor companies and has been a secular tailwind for our holdings, such as Nvidia and AMD. The combined capex of Big Tech companies has increased from $41.4 billion in 2017 to $150.6 billion in 2022, growing at a CAGR of 29.5%. In the recent earnings calls, management teams from big tech companies are indicating they will continue to invest in AI.

On a side note, increased capex related to AI does not mean AI stocks will move in a linear fashion, rather we track data like this to help us determine what to buy during selloffs, and at the bottom of selloffs.

Semiconductor Market Update

According to the Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA), global semiconductor sales were up 1.9% MoM and down (-4.5%) YoY in September to $44.9 billion. Q3 global semiconductor sales were up 6.3% QoQ and down (-4.5%) YoY to $134.7 billion.

John Neuffer, SIA President and CEO said, “Global semiconductor sales increased on a month-to-month basis for the seventh consecutive time in September, reinforcing the positive momentum the chip market has experienced during the middle part of this year,”increased on a month-to-month basis for the seventh consecutive time in September, reinforcing the positive momentum the chip market has experienced during the middle part of this year,” he further said, “The long-term outlook for semiconductor demand remains strong, with chips enabling countless products the world depends on and giving rise to new, transformative technologies of the future.”

Meanwhile, South Korean exports rose in October as semiconductor exports reported the smallest drop since August 2022 of (-3.1%) YoY in October. Chip sales helped the rise in the country’s exports for the first time in about a year.

Management Commentary on Big Tech Capex

Meta

Meta spent $32.04 billion in capex in 2022, up 66.5% YoY. 2023 has been a ‘Year of Efficiency’ and reducing capex was a priority for the company. Reduced spending in 2023 was possible due to cost savings, particularly in non-AI servers and the capex shift to 2024.

Susan Li, CFO of Meta, said in the recent earnings call. “Capital expenditures were below the prior year levels primarily due to lower server and data center construction spend as we prepared to shift to our new data center design, as well as payment timing.”to lower server and data center construction spend as we prepared to shift to our new data center design, as well as payment timing.”

The management during Q3 results lowered the upper range of the 2023 capex. It is expected to be $27 billion to $29 billion from the earlier reduced estimate of $27 billion to $30 billion, representing a YoY decline of (12.6%) at the mid-point. However, they expect higher capex for next year in the range of $30 billion to $35 billion, representing a YoY growth of 16.1% at the mid-point. The CFO said in the earnings call, “With growth driven by investments in servers, including both non-AI and AI hardware, and in data centers as we ramp up construction on sites with the new data center architecture we announced late last year.”With growth driven by investments in servers, including both non-AI and AI hardware, and in data centers as we ramp up construction on sites with the new data center architecture we announced late last year.”

Microsoft

Microsoft spent $28.40 billion in capex in 2022, up 3.3% YoY. YTD September 2023, the company has already spent $29.7 billion and therefore will see a significant jump in capex for the year 2023, helped by investments in cloud and AI.

Amy Hood, CFO of Microsoft, said in the recent earnings call. “Capital expenditures, including finance leases were $11.2 billion to support cloud demand, including investments to scale our AI infrastructure. Cash paid for PP&E was $9.9 billion.” including investments to scale our AI infrastructure. Cash paid for PP&E was $9.9 billion.” She further added, “We expect capital expenditures to increase sequentially on a dollar basis, driven by investments in our cloud and AI infrastructure. As a reminder, there can be normal quarterly spend variability in the timing of our cloud infrastructure buildout.”driven by investments in our cloud and AI infrastructure. As a reminder, there can be normal quarterly spend variability in the timing of our cloud infrastructure buildout.”

Nvidia had announced last year that they have a multi-year collaboration with Microsoft to build a giant AI supercomputer using thousands of Nvidia GPUs, Nvidia Quantum-2 InfiniBand, and full stack of Nvidia AI software to cater to the growing demand for AI.

Alphabet

The company spent $31.49 billion in capex in 2022, up 27.8% YoY. In the recent quarter, the company’s capex grew by 10.7% YoY to $8.06 billion. YTD September 2023, the capex was $21.3 billion down (-11.1%) YoY. However, the company will see an increase in Q4 and continue to grow in 2024.

Ruth Porat, CFO of Alphabet, said in the recent earnings call. “Finally, our reported CapEx in Q3 was $8 billion, driven overwhelmingly by investment in our technical infrastructure with the largest component for servers, followed by data centers, reflecting a meaningful increase in our investments in AI compute.reflecting a meaningful increase in our investments in AI compute.

The growth in reported cash CapEx in Q3 is somewhat muted due to the timing of supplier payments, which can cause variability from quarter-to-quarter. We continue to invest meaningfully in the technical infrastructure needed to support the opportunities we see in AI across Alphabet and expect elevated levels of investment, increasing in the fourth quarter of 2023 and continuing to grow in 2024.” We continue to invest meaningfully in the technical infrastructure needed to support the opportunities we see in AI across Alphabet and expect elevated levels of investment, increasing in the fourth quarter of 2023 and continuing to grow in 2024.”

She further clarified to an analyst that “2024 aggregate CapEx will be above the full year 2023.” “2024 aggregate CapEx will be above the full year 2023.”

The main takeaway is that the investment in technical infrastructure is growing and will continue to grow in 2024. There is an increasing shift in investment in technical infrastructure (i.e., AI and cloud) compared to other capex like office facilities, which is of prime importance for our portfolio. Ruth had clarified the change in shift in the Q4 2022 earnings call, “We're increasing our investments in technical infrastructure. And that's not just for AI. That's to support investments across Alphabet, in particular in Cloud as well. And at the same time, we're meaningfully decreasing our CapEx for office facilities.”we're meaningfully decreasing our CapEx for office facilities.”

Amazon

The company spent $58.62 billion in capex in 2022, down (-2%) YoY. The key takeaway is the company’s technological infrastructure spend is increasing. To understand the breakup of Amazon’s capex, we looked at some of the other previous earnings calls and understand technology infrastructure spend to be over 50% of the total capex. Brian Olsavsky, CFO of the company said in the Q2 2022 earnings call, “In 2021, we incurred approximately $60 billion in capital investments. About 40% of that is comprised of technology infrastructure, primarily supporting AWS as well as our worldwide stores business. Another 30% of the $60 billion was fulfillment capacity and a little less than 25% was for transportation, remaining 5% was comprised of things like corporate space and physical storesAbout 40% of that is comprised of technology infrastructure, primarily supporting AWS as well as our worldwide stores business. Another 30% of the $60 billion was fulfillment capacity and a little less than 25% was for transportation, remaining 5% was comprised of things like corporate space and physical stores.” He further said, “We expect infrastructure to represent a bit more than half of our total capital investments in 2022.”“We expect infrastructure to represent a bit more than half of our total capital investments in 2022.”

The guidance for 2023 capex is $50 billion, down (14.7%) YoY. However, technology infrastructure continues to grow. Brian said in the recent earnings call. “Now, let's turn to our capital investments. We define our capital investments as a combination of CapEx plus equipment finance leases. These investments were $50 billion for the trailing 12-month period ended September 30, down from $60 billion in the comparable prior year period. For the full year 2023, we expect capital investments to be approximately $50 billion compared to $59 billion in 2022. We expect fulfillment and transportation CapEx to be down year-over-year, partially offset by increased infrastructure CapEx to support growth of our AWS business, including additional investments related to generative AI and large language model efforts.”We expect fulfillment and transportation CapEx to be down year-over-year, partially offset by increased infrastructure CapEx to support growth of our AWS business, including additional investments related to generative AI and large language model efforts.”

We will be listening closely for 2024 capex discussions next quarter.

Conclusion

We continue to monitor Big Tech capex commentary and are encouraged by Meta’s recent guide for FY2024. Meta is the only company that has provided this level of visibility. In addition to a potential increase in capex from Big Tech, we are hearing across the board that a higher allocation of capex is going toward AI infrastructure.

With that said, it’s normal for cloud IaaS to go through periods of optimization. Given Meta’s guide, we are hopeful a period of optimization will not happen in 2024. Meanwhile, we will continue to closely monitor Big Tech capex comments closely as an important proxy for AI accelerators.

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Royston Roche, Equity Analyst at the I/O Fund, contributed to this analysis.

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AMD Q3 Earnings: $2B in GPU Revenue for 2024

Posted on November 1, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Initially, AMD sold off (-5%) based on the missed Q4 revenue guide. After hours, the stock recouped and ended up flat once management clarified the miss is not from the data center segment. Rather, it was confirmed the Q4 data center will grow 50% QoQ, and perhaps most importantly, management guided for $2B in GPU sales in 2024 from AI rather than supercomputing. This was the moment the price action reversed, and is a positive as it translates to broader hyperscaler customers driving the $2B rather than the Department of Energy’s supercomputer El Capitan.

We had stated in our pre-earnings write-up: “[The 50% revenue growth in Q4] is exciting, yet the market will want to see more balanced, commercial demand beyond the government-owned supercomputer.” AMD’s management went out of their way to provide additional color on hyperscalers driving the 2024 revenue, and I’ve included that part of the transcript below.

Roughly speaking, the data center is a $6 billion segment for AMD after 10 years of Lisa Su being the CEO (she became CEO in 2014). This means within one or two quarters of the GPUs shipping; sales will be the equivalent to 30% of today’s data center revenue right out the gate. Lisa Su stated the MI300 will be the fastest product they’ve had reach $1 billion in sales – which is saying a lot because the EPYC CPUs are popular.

Per the opening comments: “Based on the rapid progress we are making with our AI road map execution and purchase commitments from cloud customers, we now expect Data Center GPU revenue to be approximately $400 million in the fourth quarter and exceed $2 billion in 2024 as revenue ramps throughout the year. This growth would make MI300 the fastest product to ramp to $1 billion in sales in AMD history.”

Notably, it’s out of character for this management team to discuss forward revenue beyond one quarter. I find this break in style interesting, and I also take this to mean the $2 billion is a baseline. We will see, but that’s how I interpret a very early guide that would normally come in February. 

What is a bit unfortunate is that the gaming segment and embedded is weak, and these two segments overshadow AMD continuing to take market share on the CPU data center, and the company’s highly anticipated answer to Nvidia’s H100s. Per the CFO’s opening remarks: “In the fourth quarter, we expect to benefit from strong Data Center and Client momentum, driven by MI300 AI accelerated ramp and the strength of our high-performance leadership Zen 4 family of products despite lower sales in the Gaming segment and additional softening of demand in the embedded market.”

What is quite fortunate, however, is that some of AMD’s AI story is undercover, which is the PC and mobile market. There’s a bonus waiting for AMD investors as the AI story plays out, and while data center GPUs take up all of the attention, there is another powerful AI trend that is silently building strength in the background. I mentioned this in a previous write-up: “When discussing AMD’s AI opportunity, it is vitally important that we not lose sight of the opportunity AMD will have to expand its AI portfolio to the Client Segment.” This has already begun with the Ryzen AI on-chip accelerator contributing to the rebound in the client segment this quarter.

Revenue and EPS:

Revenue and EPS for Q3 came in a tad higher than expected at 4% growth for revenue of $5.8 billion. The company reported EPS of $0.70 versus $0.68 expected.

The guide for next quarter was problematic as it was a miss with management guiding for $6.1B in revenue versus $6.39B expected. However, the miss is not coming from the data center, and the market is digesting whether AMD is a “buy” given two of its segments are quite weak (gaming and embedded).

Margins:

Overall, the company came in as expected on margins. Gross margin came in at 47% which is a positive. On the call, it was mentioned that as the GPUs ramp, the revenue will be accretive to gross margin.

  • Adjusted gross margin of 51% was in line with management guidance for adjusted gross profits of $2.963B
  • Operating margin of 4% for operating profit of $224M is an improvement over the past few quarters of single digit negative GAAP operating margin. Per the CFO during those quarters, GAAP OM would improve with the Client segment recovery.
  • Adjusted OM came in as expected at 22% for Adj operating profits of $1.27B
  • GAAP net income was $299M with a margin of 5%

The CFO said the following about continued margin expansion:

“And in Q3, we saw very significant improvement with our client segment gross margin. I think going forward, the pace of Client segment improvement will moderate, but it will continue to drive incremental gross margin improvement in Client segment […] I think going forward, it's really mix, primarily mix, is driving our gross margin, but we feel pretty good about second half next year when we can expand the Data Center significantly and especially Embedded segment start to recover, we should be able to drive more meaningful gross margin improvement in second half.”

Cash Flow:

Operating cash flow has improved from last quarter although is still quite a bit lower than AMD’s peak in 2022. Operating cash flow of $421M is up from $379M last quarter, but is down from $965M in the year ago quarter. This should continue to improve with the Client segment bottoming.

Free cash flow of $297M is similar – an improvement from last quarter at $254M yet down from $842M in the year ago quarter.

The company has $5.8 billion in cash and short-term investments with $2.467B in debt. The company repurchased $511 million in shares.

Revenue Segments:

Data Center:

Data center came in as expected for Q3 at $1.6 billion in revenue, driven by the 4th Gen EPYC CPUs which offset a decline in adaptive SoC products. Per the opening remarks: “EPYC CPU revenue grew by a strong double-digit percentage sequentially” and also “we gained server CPU revenue share in the quarter as fourth-gen EPYC CPU revenue grew more than 50% sequentially, crossing over to represent a majority of our server processor revenue and unit shipments.”

Management has confirmed Q4 will be 50% sequential growth, or $2.4 billion in revenue. Of this, $400 million is from GPUs.

Client Segment:

The Client segment looks to have bottomed in a big way. Revenue of $1.5B was up 42% year-over-year and was up 46% QoQ. A full recovery would be in the $2.5B range. AMD released the Ryzen 7000 Series, which has helped CPU sales. Management also indicated that their partnership with Microsoft is a catalyst on the horizon as the Ryzen 7000 Series will power the biggest advancement in Windows in over 20 years.

Per management’s opening remarks: “Looking forward, we are executing on a multiyear Ryzen AI road map to deliver leadership compute capabilities built on top of Microsoft's Windows software ecosystem to enable the new generation of AI PCs that will fundamentally redefine the computing experience over the coming years.”

The Client Segment is expected to be strong next quarter, as well.

Gaming:

Gaming revenue of $1.5B was down (-8%) YoY due to a decline in semi-custom revenue but was offset by AMD Radeon GPUs. This segment is expected to decline next quarter due to a steep console cycle.

Embedded:

This segment is weighing on AMD as it’s lapping very high comps. As stated in our Pre-ER writeup, embedded is lapping a quarter with 1868% growth. Per the opening remarks: “Looking ahead, based on our current visibility, we expect Embedded segment revenue to decline sequentially as customers continue working through elevated inventory levels through the first half of 2024.”

The weakness in the gaming and embedded segments is expected to last (and perhaps worsen) through at least Q1. Per the CEO:

“And then from an Embedded and Gaming standpoint, we would say Embedded, think about it down similar levels sort of in the teens compared to sort of Q3 was down in the teens and Q4 will be down in the teens. And then Gaming, from a console standpoint, we do expect that to be down a bit more than that. And then as we go into Q1, again without being — there are lots of things that need to happen. We would expect that both gaming and embedded would be down into Q1 as well and sort of the other comments would be more around seasonality.”

Earnings Call:

It was key that management provide color on this call regarding the MI300 demand. The first question was centered the hyperscalers and how the MI300 is being used:

Toshiya Hari:

[…] My first one is on the Data Center GPU business. You talked about '24 revenue potentially exceeding $2 billion. I was hoping you could provide a little bit more color. What percentage of this is AI versus supercomputing or other applications?

Lisa Su:

Your question as to how the revenue evolves, so the way to think about it is, in the fourth quarter, we said revenue would be approximately $400 million, and that's mostly HPC with some — the start of our AI ramp. And then as we go into the first quarter, we actually expect revenue to be approximately similar in that $400 million range. And that will be mostly AI so with a very small piece being HPC. And as we go through 2024, we would expect revenue to continue to ramp quarterly, and again, it will be mostly AI.

The second question is when the stock price recovered after hours because this is when management made it clear the Q4 miss was not data center related. AMD had previously guided for 50% sequential data center growth (we covered this in great detail here) and this was reiterated:

Aaron Rakers:

[…] And how has that $400 million evolved underneath that? Has that — was it $300 million now going to $400 million? Just how has that changed over the course of the last quarter just to level set that Data Center expectation?

Jean Hu:

Yeah. So, I think for the second half, we said we expect Data Center business to grow approximately 50% versus first half. But right now, based on what we are seeing, we continue to see in that similar range of that 50%. So, we are very happy and pleased about the strong momentum of our Data Center business. On the GPU side, Lisa mentioned about $400 million, around $400 million […]”

The CEO let a comment slip that it would be “greater than $2 billion” for next year, and given how careful this management team is, I do think it’s important to note here:

Lisa Su:

Sure, Aaron. So, we've been planning the supply chain for the last year and we're always planning for success. So, certainly, for the current forecast of greater than $2 billion, we have adequate supply. But we have also planned for a supply chain forecast that could be significantly higher than that, and we would continue to work with customers to build that out.

For our purposes, as far as where this can go, the management team goes back to quoting 50% CAGR in this segment over the next few years: “So, I think we are big believers in the strength of the market. We previously said we believe that the compound annual growth rate could be 50% over the next three or four years.”

The March quarter is expected to be lumpy due to seasonality with the Client segment, Gaming, Embedded and then moving from El Capitan’s $400M in GPU revenue to $400M in Q1 from AI-driven GPU revenue (hyperscalers).

In regards to AMD’s AI-driven Client segment, here is a comment that helps solidify some of what our earlier analysis this year has discussed. From the CEO today: “What I'm most excited about in PCs is actually the AI PC. I think the AI PC opportunity is an opportunity to redefine what PCs are in terms of productivity tool and really sort of operating on sort of user data. And so, I think we're at the beginning of a wave there. We're investing heavily in Ryzen AI and the opportunity to really broaden sort of the AI capabilities of PCs going forward.”

Conclusion:

Gaming and Embedded will overshadow 4th Gen EPYC and also GPU sales in the near-term. However, we will be looking exclusively at the acceleration in the data center (EPYC and Instinct) and client segment (Ryzen AI) as the thesis. The market wanted to sell this report, yet AMD’s management team stood firm on their data center guide. For our purposes, some important hurdles were cleared – Q4 will come in as expected on the MI300s, Q1 will be the start of hyperscaler GPU sales, the margins will get better over time, and the Client segment is rebounding while also having its own AI story. Most importantly, we wanted to see AMD gain traction with hyperscalers, and that was confirmed this quarter for Q1.

Technically speaking, this report was stronger than Nvidia’s was this time last year despite the GPUs shipping at the same time seasonally – NVDA had 1% QoQ growth for data center revenue in the October quarter and then declined (-6%) QoQ in the Q4 January quarter. To jog your memory, it was the guide provided in May (for the July quarter) when Nvidia had its blowout quarter.

I don’t think AMD will take the exact path as Nvidia’s near-monopoly, rather, as was stated in the pre-earnings writeup, our goal is to see how this unfolds.

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Super Micro Fiscal Q1 Pre-Earnings: AI Marches Onward

Posted on November 1, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Second only to Nvidia, Super Micro is a stock that is reporting real AI revenue. As a percentage of revenue, SMCI is reporting 52% in AI revenue compared to Nvidia’s 76% as a percentage of total revenue (data center segment).

Super Micro is sandwiched in the AI trend between hyperscalers and major chip design companies. The company is a server maker that started off by making motherboards and other components before it began making complete systems. The company is unique in that it sits between being an equipment manufacturer (Dell, HP) and being a design manufacturer (Foxconn). Part of the company’s success is due to liquid cooling, which is a popular alternative to air cooling to sustain maximum performance with the added benefit of driving down costs for supercomputers. Liquid cooling is expected to grow from 10% of supercomputers to the “vast majority” due to improving data center power usage effectiveness (PUE) and total cost of ownership (TCO) “by over 40% on power costs.” Please reference our Super Micro overview here.

The AI and GPU rack-scale revenue accounted for 52% of the recent Q4 FY2023 revenue. It was up from 29% in Q3 FY2023 – so nearly doubling in the span of a quarter (!)

For Super Micro, AI-related revenue is expected to march onward with Barclays analyst George Wang expecting it to rise to 70% of revenue in FY2024 and further rise to 80% in FY2025. The management FY2024 revenue guidance of $10 billion at the mid-point was significantly higher than the estimates of $8.61 billion and represents a YoY growth of 40.45%, up from 37.1% in FY2023.

What could cause Super Micro to miss is supply constraints for components. This was outlined in the last earnings write-up when we stated “Supply is the primary headwind; not demand.” With that said, management seems to be confident in the current guide, with supply more of a factor as to whether they raise revenue guidance in the future. Anything can happen, but that was our interpretation in the last earnings write-up.

Here's a quote from management: “However, given the record high backlog, we see fiscal year 2024 revenue between $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion with room to deliver more depending on availability of supply.”

Revenue and EPS

The company’s Q4 FY2023 revenue grew by 33.6% YoY to $2.18 billion. The management Q1 guidance is in the range of $1.9 billion to $2.2 billion, representing YoY growth of 10.8% at the mid-point. The consensus analysts’ estimate is $2.06 billion, representing a YoY growth of 11.4%. The guidance was lower due to the key component supply shortages, and strong growth is expected for the remaining quarters of the fiscal year.

The management Q1 GAAP EPS guidance is $2.02 to $2.80 and adjusted EPS guidance is $2.75 to $3.50. The consensus adjusted EPS estimate is $3.22, representing a YoY decline of (-5.8%). The EPS also follows a similar trend of solid growth like revenue for the remaining quarters of the fiscal year.

Margins

The adjusted gross margin was 17.1% compared to 17.7% in Q3 and 17.6% in the same period last year. The gross margin was lower as the company focused on market share gains. The management expects the September quarter adjusted gross margin to be similar to Q4.

The operating margin improved 30 basis points YoY to 10.4%. The adjusted operating margin improved 30 basis points YoY and 230 basis points QoQ to 11%. The strong QoQ improvement in margins was due to higher revenues that outpaced increases in operating expenses.

The operating margin guide for the next quarter is 8% and adjusted operating margin is 10.4%. The lower operating margin is due to higher operating expenses from a continued increase in R&D expenses and higher personnel costs.

The net margin improved 30 basis points YoY to 8.9%.

Overall, these margins are slim and this is always a focus in the earnings calls. The 10%+ OM is strong enough to be acceptable on a GAAP basis, yet is also thin enough to have to monitor quarterly.

Cash Flow and Balance Sheet

Operating cash outflow in Q4 FY23 was (-$9 million) compared to cash flow of $198 million in Q3 and cash outflow of (-$25 million) in the same quarter last year. The drop in cash flow was mainly due to higher accounts receivable. We will look for improved cash flow in the upcoming quarter.

The free cash flow outflow was (-$17 million) compared to free cash flow of $190 million in Q3 and free cash outflow of (-$36 million) in the same quarter last year. Lumpy is okay as long as fiscal year is positive. For FY2022, the company reported negative cash flow of (-$485 million). For FY2023 ending in June, the company reported positive cash flow of $626.8 million. 

The company has cash of $440 million and debt of $290 million. It has a net cash position of $150 million, down from a net cash position of $176 million in the previous quarter. Per management: “we utilized our bank lines of credit to support higher revenues and accounts receivable as we ramped up production of new AI/GPU design wins.”

Key Metrics:

The AI and GPU rack-scale revenue accounted for 52% of the recent Q4 FY2023 revenue. It was up from 29% in Q3 FY2023. Barclays initiated coverage on the company with an overweight rating citing company’s exposure to AI. "Against the backdrop of AI investment trends, we believe SMCI is well positioned to capture the rising AI server opportunity with more share gains ahead driven by its superior design capability and strong AI partnerships." with more share gains ahead driven by its superior design capability and strong AI partnerships." The analyst also believes that AI-related revenue will increase to 70% in FY2024 and further to 80% in FY2025.

The OEM appliance and large data center revenue of $1.17 billion grew 59% year-over-year and 94% QoQ. The boom in AI-related data center sales helped to push this segment to over 100% growth in FY2023.

The Enterprise and channel vertical, which also includes AI/ML revenue, was up 19% year-over-year and 51% QoQ to $976 million.

What to look for in the earnings report:

1) Visibility on Supply:

Charles Liang, Founder and CEO of the company, said in the last earnings call, “Due to the current key components supply shortages, we forecast revenue in the range of $1.9 billion to $2.2 billion for the September quarter. However, given the record high backlog, we see fiscal year 2024 revenue between $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion with room to deliver more depending on availability of supply.” “Due to the current key components supply shortages, we forecast revenue in the range of $1.9 billion to $2.2 billion for the September quarter. However, given the record high backlog, we see fiscal year 2024 revenue between $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion with room to deliver more depending on availability of supply.”

Regarding the possibility high revenue (all dependent on supply), this was what was discussed on the call – with the CEO making it abundantly clear the revenue will follow the supply outlook.

Ananda Baruah:

“[…] And so I guess the first question is, is what's the opportunity do you see to maybe even do teach stronger than the fiscal '24 guidance. I guess, what would be the puts and takes there? And, if you were to be able to exceed the 2024 guidance, what would be some of the things you think would need to occur?”

Charles Liang

“[..] And for sure, they need 10 times 20 time more system. And we just cannot ship at this moment, because of supply chain […] So I mean, we are on the right track, yes expecting supply chain can improve so that we can grow our revenue.

2) Nvidia Relationship:

You can expect Supermicro to continue to play up its relationship with Nvidia in the upcoming earnings call.

The company recently announced the shipment of Nvidia GH200 Grace Hopper Superchip-based servers. So, there could be more updates in the earnings call regarding the company’s capabilities in AI. In the last earnings call, Charles Liang said, “Couple of months ago, I was honored to have my close friend, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang, join me on stage at Computex to highlight our optimized new generation GPU solutions for this AI era. We are deploying not just systems, but complete rack-scale total solutions to large generative AI innovators.”

3) Cash flow and Margins need to be decent.

Cash flow was negative in the recent quarter due to high accounts receivable. However, we will keep an eye on cash flow in the upcoming quarter. There was a question in the earnings call about working capital needs and whether they can generate positive cash flow going forward. Per management: “Yes, John. We see the business generating good cash flows, as it has historically. And we think that the — especially in this constrained supply market, where we could deliver more if we had more supply. But we're so really, the constrained supply ends up moderating the working capital. And so we grew our business last quarter quite a bit and grew our ARR. So that utilized a lot of working capital, but we have no concerns about working capital.”

As stated, operating margins are always a point of focus for SMCI on the earnings calls.

Conclusion:

Investing is a sum of calculated bets. AI will continue to be a powerful trend into the foreseeable future and our plan is to position for this. Supermicro is the #2 company for AI-related revenue (as a percentage of revenue), and this is not an easy achievement given the other companies that are gunning for AI-related revenue are juggernauts with billions in cash. However, we are no stranger to the ups/downs of sentiment in the tech sector. Strong companies with perfect earnings reports will selloff, sometimes drastically, and then often power higher. You can expect us to use all the technical analysis tools at our disposal to manage this position: setting stops, hedging at times, layering in more, trimming at the top. We think SMCI is well worth the effort.

Notably with SMCI and all of our positions, what would get us to change our mind is a material change to the margins and cash flow. We respect the FED, we don’t fight the FED. You can look for our post-ER write-up Wed night!

Read our deep-dive analysis on the company here and our past coverage here and here.

Royston Roche Equity Analyst at the I/O Fund contributed to this analysis

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Super Micro Q4 Earnings: Half of Revenue is from AI

Posted on August 9, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

Here we are in 2023, spoiled by the best Nasdaq performance in the history of the index. 2022 seems like a distant memory. Well, Super Micro’s earnings are here to remind us that stocks do not go up forever, even on a nearly perfect earnings report.

I will take this opportunity to make a plug for technical analysis, as Super Micro due for a pullback from some time, per Knox’s Positions Report here. There is very little in the fundamentals that would directly cause a selloff, and so the information below is going to frustrate anyone who thinks only fundamentals drives stock prices.

Super Micro beat on all accounts, and also raised full year guidance. Cash flow was negative this quarter but likely to be temporary. I’ve included some notes on this below.

We had written going into the earnings report that Super Micro had pre-announced Q4, and it was a sizable beat:

Today, the company has taken this further and raised FY2024 guidance considerably from $8.61 billion expected to $10 billion at the midpoint. Rough math of a 17% gross margin and a 9% net margin gets us comfortably above the $14.73 EPS expected for FY2024, as well, in the $16.00 adjusted EPS to $17.00 GAAP EPS range.

Management did a good job on the call discussing what would cause them to raise the guidance even more for FY2024. The brief answer is they will raise again if they can obtain key components from the supply chain. I detail this for you below.

Scorecard:

The current fiscal Q4 results are bolded for easy reference. Percentages are YoY unless stated otherwise.

Revenue and EPS:

  • SMCI Management raised Q4FY23 revenue guidance to $2.15B-2.18B from previous guidance of $1.7B to $1.9B, vs consensus of $1.96B. Today, the company reported $2.18 billion for growth of 34% YoY and 70% QoQ.
  • Q4 GAAP eps guidance raised to $3.25 to $3.35 from $2.13-$2.65. The company reported $3.43 GAAP EPS.
  • Non-GAAP guidance raised to between $3.35 to $3.45 from $2.21 to $2.71 vs consensus of $2.88. The company reported adjusted EPS of $3.51 for growth of 34% YoY.
  • Q1FY24 consensus eps of $3.19. The company guided for $2.75 to $3.50 EPS, so this is technically a slight miss at the midpoint of $3.13 EPS but the guide is still within range.
  • FY24 consensus eps of $14.51 and revenue of $8.47B. The company raised full year guidance to $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion, or $10B at the midpoint. This implies a comfortable beat on the bottom line with the current margin profile.

Margins:

  • Current gross Margin of 17% versus Q323 gross margin of 17.6% and 18.7% in Q223
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  • Current operating margin of 10.60% versus Q323 opm of 7.7% and 11.9% in Q223.
  • Current net margin of 8.9% compared to 6.7% last quarter and 9.8% in Q2

Cash Flow:

This quarter, the operating cash flow was (-$9) million and free cash flow was (-$17) million for a 0% margin. This compares to $198m in op cash flow and $190m in free cash flow last quarter with margins of 15.5% and 14.8%, respectively. In Q2, the margins were 8.9% and 8.4%, respectively.

The cash flow was also negative in Q4 of last year. Management stated the following regarding the negative FCF: “Cash flow used in operations for Q4 was $9 million compared to cash flow generated by operations of $198 million in Q3 due to higher accounts receivable, offset by lower inventory and higher accounts payable from backend loaded shipments in the quarter due to supply constraints.” 

The company has $440 million in cash and $290 million in debt for a net cash position of $150 million, down from $176 million. Per management: “we utilized our bank lines of credit to support higher revenues and accounts receivable as we ramped up production of new AI/GPU design wins.”

Here was a question on the call, which seemed to relay that cash flow would be similar to previous levels: 

Jon Tanwanteng

Hi, thanks for the follow up. Dave, I was wondering if you could talk about your working capital needs in the sort of environment. Can you generate positive cash flow going forward? Are you going to be using cash as you as you try to fulfill this OpEx demand? 

David Weigand 

Yeah, John. We see the business generating good cash flows, as it has historically. And we think that the — especially in this constrained supply market, where we could deliver more if we had more supply. But we're so really, the constrained supply ends up moderating the working capital. And so we grew our business last quarter quite a bit and grew our ARR. So that utilized a lot of working capital, but we have no concerns about working capital.

Key Metrics:

52% of Super Micro’s revenue is driven by AI-related designs. Compare that to many AI bubble stocks that do not have any AI revenue yet.

To help illustrate what that has done for Super Micro, analysts raised FY 2025 expectations from 11% revenue growth to 71% revenue growth over the past three months. That is a considerable jump thanks to it’s here-and-now AI exposure.

The OEM appliance and large data center revenue of $1.17 billion grew 59% year-over-year and 94% QoQ. The boom in AI-related data center sales helped to push this segment to over 100% growth in FY2023.

The Enterprise and channel vertical, which also includes AI/ML revenue, was up 19% year-over-year and 51% QoQ to $976 million.

Earnings Call:

Supply is the Primary Headwind; Not Demand:

When management raised guidance, this is what the CEO stated: “However, given the record high backlog, we see fiscal year 2024 revenue between $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion with room to deliver more depending on availability of supply.”

Basically, Nvidia’s chips are so popular that Super Micro is competing with many others for a very limited supply of these chips. Super Micro has a strong relationship with Nvidia and the company is not bashful about making it known. Here is what was stated in the opening remarks: “Couple of months ago, I was honored to have my close friend, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang, join me on stage at Computex to highlight our optimized new generation GPU solutions for this AI era” along with a list of Nvidia-powered systems that Super Micro supports. 

In our pre-earnings write-up, we had stated: “The bulk of SMCI’s growth will depend on supply chain, which we outlined in our recent analysis. The demand is there, can the company meet the demand or are the key component supply shortages going to keep the company’s growth in line for now? Clearly, the pre-announcement is a good sign that the supply chain is not getting in the way too much, however, this remains the top concern for SMCI's near-term growth. Per our analysis, lead times are at 26 weeks compared to a 10-14 week target. This is an improvement from 40 weeks. Read more here.”

Here was the first question regarding the supply:

Ananda Baruah:

“[…] And so I guess the first question is, is what's the opportunity do you see to maybe even do teach stronger than the fiscal '24 guidance. I guess, what would be the puts and takes there? And, if you were to be able to exceed the 2024 guidance, what would be some of the things you think would need to occur?”

Charles Liang

“[..] And for sure, they need 10 times 20 time more system. And we just cannot ship at this moment, because of supply chain […] So I mean, we are on the right track, yes expecting supply chain can improve so that we can grow our revenue.”

Can the Company Keep Growing …

As if a beat in Q4 and a raise for FY2024 isn’t good enough, analysts on the call wanted to know what the possibility is that Super Micro continues to beat and raise. It was helpful that the CEO stated, “With LLM large language model and other AI applications booming, I now expect the $20 billion annual revenue target to be just a couple of years away.”

Here was a question from an analyst on that note:

Ananda Baruah

That's really helpful. And so, Charles, just to make sure that I understood that accurately, is that to say, if the supply chain — so if you can, if you can get more from the supply chain, actually use it to say this way you have order visibility, such that if you can procure more, you would have the ability to share gains, exceed the fiscal '24 range that you provide is a really supply chain issue, I guess, is what I'm asking. Did I hear that accurately?

Charles Liang

Yeah, absolutely […]

This was also stated at the very end by the CEO:

“Charles Liang

And even a supply condition, I believe we can surpass $10.5 million for sure easily.”

Conclusion

On the Microsoft post-earnings report, I had stated “Let’s be real, the Nasdaq has rallied more than it has in its 52-year history off fairly unimpressive top line growth in the tech industry and minimal to no earnings growth. Although fellow growth investors have greatly benefited, we shouldn’t be surprised if the buying is exhausted at the moment.”

Per a recent Zack’s report (behind a paywall): “For the Tech sector, we now have Q2 results for 41.2% of the sector’s total market capitalization in the index. Total earnings for these companies are down -0.4% on +2.1% higher revenues, with 94.7% beating EPS estimates and 73.7% beating revenue estimates.”

This is not enough growth to sustain the rally we have seen.

Of the tech earnings results this year, Super Micro is a rare gem that has materially grown both top line and bottom line in a big wayin a big way. But, to be fair, the stock has been rewarded and is up considerably this year. Tech investing is not linear, and so what we have is a solid earnings report that is being sold off as buyers are drying up and/or investors are taking gains.

From my perspective, this is a great report and stands out from the weakness we are seeing in many earnings reports. Our plan is to buy on any weakness using technical analysis, so you can look for those trade alerts when the stock hits our buy zone.

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SuperMicro Pre-ER Fiscal Q4: Momentum Continues

Posted on August 8, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

We recently did a SMCI deep dive here.  We expect SMCI to benefit from the AI trend due to its position between hyperscalers and major chip design companies. 

Our investment thesis is playing out as SMCI recently revised up its Q4FY23 guidance which was better than expectedQ4FY23 guidance which was better than expected. So we will listen to the drivers behind this upward revision and whether it will carry through to FY24 and its potential impact on FY2024 consensus earnings estimates. 

Revenue and EPS:

  • SMCI Management raised Q4FY23 revenue guidance to $2.15B-2.18B from previous guidance of $1.7B to $1.9B, vs consensus of $1.96B
  • Q4 GAAP eps guidance raised to $3.25 to $3.35 from $2.13-$2.65
  • Non-GAAP guidance raised to between $3.35 to $3.45 from $2.21 to $2.71 vs consensus of $2.88
  • Q1FY24 consensus eps of $3.19, FY24 consensus eps of $14.51 and revenue of $8.47B

Margins:

  • Q323 gross margin was 17.6%  vs  18.7% in Q223  
  • Adj Q323 gross margin was 17.7%  vs 18.8% in Q223
  • Q323 opm was 7.7% vs 52 % in 11.9% in Q223.
  • Adj Q323 gross margin was 8.7% vs 12.8% in Q223 

Cash Flow:

  • In Q323, SMCI posted $198m in op cash flow and $190m in free cash flow. Margins were 15.5% and 14.8%, respectively.
  • In Q223, SMCI posted $161m in op cash flow and $151m in free cash flow. Margins were 8.9% and 8.4%, respectively. 
  • $363m in cash and $187m in debt. 

What we are watching for:

  • The bulk of SMCI’s growth will depend on supply chain, which we outlined in our recent analysis. The demand is there, can the company meet the demand or are the key component supply shortages going to keep the company’s growth in line for now? Clearly, the pre-announcement is a good sign that the supply chain is not getting in the way too much, however, this remains the top concern for SMCI's near-term growth. Per our analysis, lead times are at 26 weeks compared to a 10-14 week target. This is an improvement from 40 weeks. Read more here.
  • Discussions around their 10%+ customer Meta and the other unnamed 10% customer increasing orders (ideally) and/or any other new customer wins that can be named or quantified
  • Comments on the partnership with Nvidia, per our write-up: “Supermicro is closely partnered with Nvidia on the H100 GPU rollout with air flow designs that reduce fan speeds, lower power consumption, lower noise levels and lower the total cost of ownership.”
  • Discussions on other partnerships, such as AMD and Intel.
  • FY2024 consensus eps estimate is $14.51. There was a miss last quarter on EPS, which management stated: “The shortfall was primarily due to key new component shortages for Supermicro’s new generation server platforms which have been mostly resolved to-date.” We will look for this EPS to stand and will evaluate if there can be a beat in the future.
  • We will assess if SMCI is taking more market share, and if so, how much market share?
  • We will listen for and note any discussions on the margins (this was also detailed in our most recent writeup in the conclusion).

 

What analysts are watching for:

Loop Capital analyst Ananda Baruah raised the firm's price target on Super Micro Computer to $400 from $325 and keeps a Buy rating on the shares ahead of its Q2 results tomorrow. Having positively pre-announced Q4 earnings last month, the company's commentary will provide the "latest rungs on the ladder" to achieving long-term EPS of $20.00 

Rosenblatt analyst Hans Mosesmann raised the firm's price target on Super Micro Computer (SMCI) to $375 from $300 and keeps a Buy rating on the shares after the company pre-announced "record" bookings. The market is "set to be on its heels for several quarters" and the firm sees Super Micro capturing incremental AI supply as a premier enterprise partner to Nvidia (NVDA) and its Hopper ramp, the analyst tells investors. 

Wedbush analyst Matt Bryson notes that Supermicro updated its Q4 outlook, with revenues now expected to come in at $2.15B-$2.18B, vs. the original guidance range of $1.7B-$1.9B and consensus at $1.8B. EPS is now expected to be about $3.35-$3.45, compared to the previously provided range of $2.21-$2.71. As part of the release, management signaled that order rates and design activity remain at record levels driving rapid backlog growth, the firm adds. While Wedbush doesn't see any near-term risk to Supermicro results, the firm is retaining its more cautious stance and Underperform rating on the name with a price target of $65.

The I/O Fund Analyst Team contributed to this analysis

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AMD Q2 Earnings: ETA for AI Ramp is Q4 & 2024

Posted on August 2, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

AMD has been referencing a ramp for the data center in H2. Given that Q3 revenue growth is below expectations, this would imply that Q4 will have to really deliver.

AMD’s management reiterated “we do have that confidence” that there will be an “aggressive ramp in Q4 and 2024.” This was not the only statement on the topic, rather the quote we provided to premium members where management confirmed “50% year-over-year growth in the second half” was by and far the main focus of the call.

Notably, a large portion of the sales in Q4 will come from the El Capitan supercomputer, a highly anticipated launch that we discussed recently in our AMD Deep Dive.

The analysts that dug into the “50% year-over-year growth in second half” comment were trying to ascertain the following:

  • Is the 50% still valid despite the Q3 miss? If so, this implies +$700 million sequential revenue for Q4
  • Of this roughly $700 million for Q4, what’s the product mix between EPYC processors and MI300 GPUs
  • If El Capitan contributes “several hundred million” for Q4 then when will Tier 1 hyperscalers begin to drive sales for MI300 GPUs

In addition to these questions, which we outline below, the pertinent Q&A was on how much of a slowdown AMD is seeing for general purpose CPUs (Gen 3) as hyperscalers and the enterprise go through an optimization period. Here is what was specifically stated: “In the datacenter market, we see a mixed environment as AI deployments are expanding. However, cloud customers continue optimizing their datacenter compute and enterprise customers remain cautious with new deployments. Against this backdrop, we expect strong growth driven by higher fourth gen EPYC and Ryzen 7000 processor sales and initial shipments of our Instinct MI300 accelerators in the fourth quarter.”

Regarding Bergamo and Genoa-X specifically, management stated that Microsoft Azure is seeing “5X higher performance in technical computing workloads compared to their prior generation” and that Bergamo is delivering “more than double the performance than competitive offerings for cloud-native applications, while offering full x86 software compatibility.” As a reminder, Gen 4 CPUs went into production this quarter.

The MI300s will ship in Q4 with the competitive edge of more memory bandwidth and memory storage. This is ideal for the inference phase, which is used heavily by large language models. We detailed the MI300s in our deep dive here.

On the Client side, AMD has officially bottomed (barring any new, unforeseen circumstances). Management stated that “client segment will grow in the seasonally stronger second half of the year” including a launch of a dedicated AI engine for the mobile 7040 Ryzen CPUs. When discussing AMD’s AI opportunity, it is vitally important that we not lose sight of the opportunity AMD will have to expand its AI portfolio to the Client Segment. Hybrid AI architectures are coming (which means AI is going to go beyond the data center and expand toward the edge), and AMD will be at the forefront. As long as dollar content per chip is higher (which it will be), then AMD will benefit nicely in the next replacement cycle (and beyond). That is a record for parentheses in a paragraph!

For gaming, AMD has yet to bottom. The embedded segment will be weaker than usual over the next two quarters. This segment has been unusually strong post-Xilinx acquisition but is coming up on sky-high comps, so will be cooling off in the medium-term. Due to the M&A with Xilinx, AMD was posting 1,000% to 2,000% growth in the 2022 quarters.

Scorecard

All numbers for current quarter and YoY unless otherwise stated

Overall, everything was in line except the forward guide for Q3 was a miss. This is important because it means the pressure is on Q4 to deliver the H2 growth management had referenced in the prior Q1 earnings call. 

In addition to this, we want to see margins rebound quickly after Client and Gaming stabilize. In the past, the CFO has stated that the margins will return to normal when these two segments return to normal. The gross margin of 51% is in good shape but the operating margin of 0% is below AMD’s GAAP operating margin of 20% to 25% in the boom years of 2020/2021. Net margin of 0% compares the net margin of 15% to 20% in the boom years.

Although a tad vague, the CFO stated the following when pressed about the margins: “The model we leverage to generate profitability, we should be able to get back to 20%.”

EPS & Revenue:

EPS: Consensus estimates $0.57 versus $0.58 reported (in line)
Revenue: Mgmt midpoint guidance of $5.3B (-19% YoY) versus $5.4 billion reported for (-17%) growth (in line)
Next quarter revenue consensus of $5.85B versus $5.7B reported (miss)

Group sales by division (a reference guide of what was reported the last two quarters)

Data centers – $1.3B Q1 vs $1.3B in the current quarter (flat QoQ, down 13% YoY)
Client segment – $739m Q1 vs. $998 million in the current quarter (up 35% QoQ, down 54% YoY)
Gaming – $1.8B Q1 vs $1.6B in the current quarter (down 10% QoQ, down 4% YoY)
Embedded – $1.6B in Q1 vs $1.5B in current quarter (up 16% YoY, down 7% QoQ)

Gross Margins based on midpoint 

Mgmt adj guidance of 51% versus 51% GM reported (in line)
Mgmt adj $ guidance of $2.65B versus $2.665B reported (in line) 

Operating Margins based on midpoint 

GAAP operating margin of (-3%) last quarter versus 0% GAAP OM this quarter for (-$20M) in losses
Adjusted operating margin guidance of 19.8% vs versus 20% reported (in line) for $1.068B in profit

Cash flow + Cash 

Last quarter operating and free cash flow was $486M and $328M for a margin of 9% and 6%, respectively. This quarter, operating cash flow was $379M and $254M for a margin of 7% and 4.7%.

Earnings Q&A

As stated in the intro, there were many questions about the 50% growth in the second half comment from Q1. Here were a few of the more important discussions.

Matt Ramsay 

“Last quarter, you had given us some metrics around potentially being able to grow your datacenter business by 50% in the second-half of the year versus the first-half. And maybe you could give us a little bit of an update on how you're thinking about that milestone and the drivers of growth across CPU and accelerator for the back-half? Thanks.”

Lisa Su

“And we are still looking at a zip code of, let's call it, 50% plus or minus second-half to first-half. So, it's a big ramp, but when we look at all the components, I think that the customer pull is certainly there. And it's exciting to be in this part of the industry.”

When asked again about Q4, and whether the company has the supply to meet the demand, the CFO stated: “We feel that we have ample supply for an aggressive ramp in the fourth quarter and into 2024. But this is certainly one of the areas that we spent quite a bit of time to ensure that we do have that confidence.”

As stated in our AMD deep dive, El Capitan launches in November. Per management, this will contribute “several hundred million” in revenue for Q4. Of the obstacles that AMD must overcome, our analysis made it quite clear it was the software part of the equation that AMD must solve.

Per management: “There is a sort of large, call it, lumpy supercomputer win, so our El Capitan win will be in the fourth quarter primarily, with a little bit in the first quarter” and later it was stated by management: “You can assume that the El Capitan is several hundred million” of the Q4 data center revenue. Ideally, AMD announces commercial customers soon. I’m sure Meta will be one of the first customers, considering the company has been ordering Bergamo from AMD, was on stage at AMD’s conference recently in June, and PyTorch is optimizing its framework for AMD’s software stack RocM. It’s just a guess at this point, but that’s a lot of collaboration.

Conclusion:

AMD has high institutional ownership of +70%, which exceeds many of the FAANGs. The reason is that it’s a tough company to cover and retail investors avoid AMD for this reason. There are many moving pieces with exposure to a handful of major markets, a wide variety of customers, deceivingly lumpy revenue, known to be in second place against 800-pound gorillas, plus trying to figure out where AMD fits requires understanding of both hardware and software.

While some are offput by AMD’s complexity compared to Nvidia’s simple, straightforward thesis, this company has all of the ingredients to be a major AI player. As you’ve probably heard already on the quarterly webinars, my stance is there will be fewer winners in AI compared to other microtrends, and so to find a company like AMD will be quite rare.

Also, as a gentle reminder, Nvidia’s H100 started shipping in Q4 of last year and it took until April for there to be a “wow” moment. I can’t guarantee a “wow” moment will happen (my personal speculation is that it will happen), but this provides investors a minimum time frame of what to expect for Tier 1 hyperscalers to ramp orders after qualifying the two new accelerators.

Rather than pinpoint an exact month or quarter, let’s just say that 2024 should be the year that AMD puts up notable AI revenue. Those are my words. Here is management’s way of saying it: “So, we would expect early deployments as we go into the first-half of 2024, and then we would expect more volume in the second-half of '24 as those things fully qualify.” 

 Recommended Readings:

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AMD is Ready to Rival on AI Acceleration

Posted on July 5, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

AMD is more complex than Nvidia as I can simply say “near-monopoly on GPUs” or “deep moat from CUDA” and that summarizes quite nicely why Nvidia is an AI leader. Of course, there is much more to the products, and that complexity has worked in our favor.

However, AMD is far less straight forward, and coupled with the complexity of the chip market, I am not surprised there was a muted reaction to the AI conference this month. Wall Street was quite late to Nvidia’s H100 release, in fact, Nvidia’s stock was at a deep discount the very month the H100 shipped. One can only hope that AMD will be at a similar deep discount when the MI300 ships in volume in Q4 2023.

I’ve said “I’m Still Feeling Zen” with AMD during the PC-slump – a play on AMD’s Zen Architecture — and I’ve also called the company “The Dark Horse,” which refers to being an underestimated competitor.  The Dark Horse reference is becoming less noteworthy given its penetration in the data center has grown 5-6X since we first started referring to the company as underestimated.

In October, I had said Nvidia was Ready to Rumble. At the exact time that Nvidia has been named AI King, I’m going to say that AMD is Ready to Rival.

Below, I go through the product lines you can expect to be Phase 1 of AMD’s AI Acceleration strategy. I believe what is described below will take us through the next two years of gains as AMD will primarily rely on the MI300A and MI300X to nibble at Nvidia’s GPU monopoly. There is also exciting things happening in CPUs with the Zen 4/4c release in the second half of the year, including a cloud optimized processor.

Later down the line, in Phase 2, AMD will benefit from recurring software revenue, hybrid AI, edge computing, FPGAs/Xilinx and Automotive. However, maintaining CPU growth coupled with a competitive GPU strategy is most important right now and I think it’s prudent to focus entirely here for the time being as our current position depends on this.

Notably, the revenue potential from Phase 2 will be quite substantial after the GPU strategy materializes. The main point to know is that major design companies will do quite well outside of the data center, so what you’re seeing now and next year will only multiply.

The goal of this particular analysis is to describe what AMD is setting out to accomplish with GPUs in as lucid a manner as possible. The opportunity in front of AMD is exciting. But, let’s first start with the risks before we go into the larger analysis as I want to make sure the risks are fully understood.

Here are the hurdles that AMD must clear to become a major AI contender – I expand on these points below.

  • Lacks a popular software platform and CUDA competitor. AMD’s recently released software platform ROCM is promising but is no CUDA.
  • AMD is later to market on AI acceleration in terms of GPUs. Although AMD has accomplished what is nearly impossible by being a second-place contender that crushed first-place Intel, the reality is that being in second place is a major obstacle.
  • On that note, the company has its hands full competing against Intel on CPUs. It will now go up against Nvidia on GPUs. Lisa Su is one of the best CEOs in the history of the tech industry, but can she and her team take on both at the same time?

There are also a few major positives that are in AMD’s favor – I expand on these points below.

  • The MI300s should be able to compete on performance once the GPUs are benchmarked as AMD’s GPUs power the world’s largest supercomputers.
  • AMD is exceptional at undercutting on price. This is primarily how AMD overtook Intel coupled with a better design (the Zen 2 architecture)
  • AMD’s designs are excellent at improving power efficiency. Power efficiency is important for total cost of ownership. Not only will AMD’s GPUs likely be cheaper (no confirmation on pricing just yet) but they will also cost less to own over a four-year life span.
  • Hyperscalers will support competition to Nvidia. You can think of Nvidia as more of a frenemy to Big Tech. This is due to pricing power, CUDA being closed source, and also now Nvidia will be competing with Big Tech in some areas. For example, Omniverse will compete with Meta’s metaverse ambitions. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that one of AMD’s largest customers is Meta. For the MI300 release, AMD is primarily focused on hyperscalers with the CDNA GPUs and not consumer-level RDNA GPUs.
  • Victor Peng, former CEO of Xilinx and now President of AMD, is an ace of spades in AMD’s pocket, as is Forrest Norrod and Jean Hu. As any epic CEO should do, Lisa Su has loaded up her team with a strong C-suite.

Brief Background on AMD-Powered Supercomputers

To understand AMD’s beginnings on AI acceleration, we have to start the discussion with supercomputers.

Supercomputers are the world’s most powerful computers and are government owned by the Department of Energy at national laboratories. Currently, Frontier is the world’s fastest supercomputer, and this is powered by AMD’s EPYC Milan CPUs and AMD’s MI250X GPUs. Infinity Fabric is essential to AMD’s architecture as it links functions of the CPUs and GPUs by providing interconnects for purposes of data exchange and memory.

Supercomputers are important for national defense purposes. Per the announcement from the Lawrence laboratory: “Besides supporting the nuclear stockpile, El Capitan will perform secondary national security missions, including nuclear nonproliferation and counterterrorism. NNSA laboratories are building machine learning and AI into computational techniques and analysis that will benefit NNSA’s primary missions and unclassified projects such as climate modeling and cancer research for DOE.”

Last year, the AMD-powered Frontier supercomputer broke Japan’s record at a speed of 1.1 exaflops, which is two times faster than the record held by Japan for two years. By breaking the 1.0 ExaFLOP/s barrier in the HPL benchmark test, AMD-powered Frontier became the world’s first exascale computer. This speed is greater than a quintillion calculations per second. 

This year, AMD will be powering the launch of a new and highly anticipated supercomputer called El Capitan located in Livermore, California. The ambitious goal for El Capitan is to exceed 2 exaFLOPS of “double-precision” processing power. This supercomputer is powered by AMD EPYC Genoa CPUs and AMD’s MI300A GPUs. El Capitan will also feature AMD’s ROCm open compute software platform.

AMD’s first real-go at competing with Nvidia on commercialized AI acceleration will be this year, however, the company has been powering the world’s top performing computer for five years. I think answering this question — why did the Frontier and El Capitan projects choose AMD — is critical for understanding why AMD can rival Nvidia on GPUs in the near future. The analysis below is aimed at discussing a few advantages AMD has in terms of design. 

Also, investors should note that AMD’s new GPUs will be shipping around the same time that El Capitan will launch (ETA: Oct/Nov 2023).

AMD’s CPU Zen Architecture

We’ve covered AMD’s Zen Architecture in depth a few times, including about two years ago in a 1-hour webinar on AMD and three years ago in a premium report here. The 2020 report is important because it was real-time on discussing the bullish thesis that AMD could take substantial market share from Intel in the data center. At the time, the company had 4% CPU server market share and now has over 20% market share.

We need to revisit how AMD was able to take on an 800 lb. gorilla in order to piece together how AMD plans to do it again.

Here is what was said a couple of years back – I’ve bolded what is important for the purposes of this analysis:

“In August of 2019, AMD released a competitive 7nm chip while Intel was still producing 14nm chips with a 10nm chip on the way. Essentially, AMD leapfrogged the incumbent with a product that is more power efficient and allows for more cores per chip. Because 7nm are twice as dense as 14nm, AMD was able to release a 64-core server chip and 128 threads rather than AMD’s previous 32-core server chip. Up until early 2019, Intel’s offering has been a 28-core server chip and 64 threads. […] AMD has blatantly stated the second-generation EPYC server processors had 1.8 to 2 times the performance advantage of Intel’s Xeon processor line and is half the cost in some instances.”

Here is a recent statement from Microsoft on the dramatic results from AMD’s Zen Architecture:

Source: Twitter

So, how was AMD able to outpace Intel on computing power, memory and energy use — at half the cost?

The Zen-2 architecture introduced a multi-chip module that used the most advanced technology where it’s needed most by combining 7nm chiplets with a 14nm die. This was quite a competitive leap as Intel was still using a monolithic design.

In this case, the 14nm was leveraged for memory controllers because the central hub runs input/output (I/O) and memory better. This helped AMD beat Intel on memory bandwidth. The design also greatly improved performance by putting the L2 cache on the core and the L3 cache across the core. Overall, these design improvements lower the power required while increasing the performance as it requires fewer NUMA hops, which in turn, increases instructions per clock, and this ultimately reduces latency.

From there, AMD undercut Intel on price, which becomes a virtuous cyclebecomes a virtuous cycle as driving down costs means more chips will be bought from AMD. We also mentioned in the 2021 webinar that at the time, a third-party analyst named Michael Larabel benchmarked AMD as being 14% faster than Intel while costing about 30% less.

In what can a be an industry full of jargon, this is most important point in my previous AMD analysis as to why AMD went from 2-4% CPU server share to 20%+ when AMD’s Rome went up against Intel Xeon Cascade Lake: 

“It’s estimated that for every $1.00 in Rome chip sales, Intel loses $2.25 on average in Intel Xeon SP sales. The savings are then deployed to buy more Rome chips, which can further depress Intel’s revenue.”$1.00 in Rome chip sales, Intel loses $2.25 on average in Intel Xeon SP sales. The savings are then deployed to buy more Rome chips, which can further depress Intel’s revenue.”

The older Rome Series Zen 2 architecture is what was discussed in our webinar. Meanwhile, the Milan Series is the current series driving forward AMD’s data center growth. The Milan Series Zen 3 architecture has made improvements in performance largely due to 3D stacking. By incorporating 3D stacking in Zen 3, AMD was able to triple the L3 cache size while only adding four clock cycles of latency. When 3D stacking is incorporated with GPUs, the result is computers that train neural nets up to 40 percent faster with 16 percent less energy.

Next up is Bergamo, the CPU line specifically designed for cloud native workloads. In this case, Bergamo will have less cache and more performance per watt. During the conference, Meta was on stage with AMD to attest to Bergamo having 2.5X better throughput performance. Part of the upcoming release includes Siena, which will drive more dollar performance per watt at the edge for telco customers. Notably, Genoa and Genoa-X will continue to provide more cache for general purpose workloads.

Total Cost of Ownership:

Total cost of ownership (TCO) refers to the total cost to own and operate equipment over its useful life span. TCO is a motivating factor for hyperscalers when evaluating equipment as it factors in not only the acquisition cost but also the costs associated with owning and operating the equipment over the hardware life cycle. 

For example, Spiceworks reported that “in 2010, the research firm Gartner estimated that for a desktop PC priced at $1,000, the total cost of ownership works out to at least $2,680 per year when you factor in things like capital expenditures, labor expenses of supporting the computer, and indirect costs such as lost end-user productivity due to downtime.” Over a four-year lifespan, the costs are estimated to be $9,800 to $17,600.

We will have to get the benchmarks after the MI300s are released, but power consumption is a major contributor to higher TCO. In addition to this, if a company has to buy more GPUs to train and run similar size LLMs, then this would (theoretically) also contribute to a higher TCO for Nvidia equipment.

In the past, AMD advertised up to 20% Capex savings compared to Intel based on Epyc processors delivering more performance from a single chip compared to Intel’s dual-processor powered by two CPUs. Big Tech has capex budgets into the tens of billions. Although it’s not specifically disclosed exactly how much goes toward AI acceleration, we know that Big Tech is driving forward Nvidia’s GPU sales at $8 billion per quarter or $35 billion to $40 billion per year.

Here is the thesis in a nutshell: If a competitor can deliver 20% savings on this kind of budget with similar performance, then it will turn heads. We can geek out all day long on the computing performance of Nvidia’s H100 GPU, however, if the MI300s drive down total cost of ownership through low unit pricing, better power efficiency and reducing the number of GPUs required, then hyperscalers will line up to support this.

What Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta and large enterprises want most of all is to build incredible AI systems but at a manageable cost. This goes back to the virtuous cycle. The more they save, the more they can build.

If Big Tech capex goes further with AMD, then that will be something Nvidia will be forced to address. Nvidia is unrivaled right now on GPUs, which means their pricing power is unrivaled. The H100 is in short supply, and the A100 may be being stockpiled by China before United States sanctions take effect. The lead times on the H100 and A100 are into 2024 at this point, which means there is no better time for AMD to enter the market and undercut on price/TCO than right now.

In the next section, we discuss how the MI300A and MI300X GPUs may be following a similar path as the Rome, Milan and Genoa CPUs.

MI300A and MI300X GPUs

The El Capitan Supercomputer is expected to launch this Fall. When it launches, El Capitan is expected to follow a similar system as Frontier which is (1) AMD Epyc CPU with (4) MI300 GPUs with Infinity Fabric. The “A” in the MI300 stands for APU, which refers to a CPU being combined with a GPU. Nvidia has only recently attempted this at the HPC level with the Grace CPU and H100 GPU, but this is technically two discrete devices with separate memories.

By having a fully shared, coherent memory, the MI300A architecture reduces latency while enabling high bandwidth. The high-speed, low-latency unified memory helps improve speed while allowing the CPU and GPU to do what they do best. By allowing both processor types to access shared memory, HPC programming is more efficient. 

Notably, AMD has been successful in releasing APUs for PCs and gaming. Technically, APUs underperform GPUs when it comes to gaming but outperform on PCs as they don’t use as much power as dedicated GPUs.

Here are the specs:

  • 24 CPU Cores comprised of three Genoa eight-core chiplets
  • 128 GB HBM3 memory with approx. 5TB/second of memory bandwidth
  • (9) 5nm compute logic chiplets and (4) 6nm base dies
  • Shared memory

MI300X

According to AMD, the MI300X will have 2.4X the memory density of the H100 and 1.6X the memory bandwidth. The reason that the MI300X was able to run the popular Falcon-40B large language model (LLM) with 40 parameters is because the neural network was ran entirely in memory without the need to move data back-and-forth with the external memory. AMD also stated the MI300X will be able to run up to 80B parameters on a single chip.

  • (8) 5nm GPUs and (4) 6nm base dies
  • 153 billion transistors
  • 192GB of HMB3 memory. 5TB/second of memory bandwidth
  • Ran a 40B parameter large language model (LLM) on a single GPU (unprecedented)
  • Can scale up to 8 accelerators in a single package for cutting-edge generative AI LLMs

The MI300X requires more power than its predecessor MI250X at 750 watts, and this is higher than Nvidia’s H100 at 700 watts. However, it’s not an apples-to-apples because what the MI300X promises to deliver is running compute-intensive large language models with fewer GPUs than is required with the H100s due to offering roughly double the memory.

The need for fewer GPUs is accomplished by running LLMs in the memory. The image below shows why having 2.4X memory at 192GB compared to Nvidia’s 80GB will reduce the number of GPUs required for running popular large language models.

Here is what Dr. Lisa Su said at the recent AI conference:

“For the largest models, that actually reduces the number of GPUs you need, significantly speeding up the performance, especially for inference, as well as reducing the total cost of ownership."

In terms of the MI250X versus the MI300X, the newer model is powering nearly three times more transistors than its predecessor. There is also a lower power variant of the MI300X expected in early 2024. In addition to this, AMD offers chiplet and packaging technologies that reduce power requirements.

To compete with Nvidia’s DGX systems, AMD is also releasing the AMD Instinct Platform which will combine eight MI300X systems with 1.5B terabytes of HBM3 memory. The server utilizes the Open Compute Platform specifications so that it’s compatible with existing hyperscaler infrastructure (more on this below).

Quick note on AMD Radeon RX Series Gaming GPUs

We are invested in AMD for the company’s AI potential. However, it makes sense to touch base on gaming as graphics processing units (GPUs) are first and foremost gaming chips. At the time that Nvidia was founded in the early 1990s, and up until recently, gaming was one of the most computationally challenging use cases for hardware.

Nvidia is the inventor of GPUs, and for the first two decades or so, NVDA was primarily a gaming stock. Part of our original thesis was that the AI era would be upon us when AI revenue overtakes gaming revenue for Nvidia, as this would help pinpoint when Nvidia’s industry had officially changed. It’s a big moment when something like this happens (Mac/PC overtaken by iPhone/Mobile revenue, etc.). 

Since gaming is what led to Nvidia’s GPU positioning for AI/ML, it makes sense to note that AMD is a decent contender on gaming GPUs. Here’s a snapshot of how gaming GPUs rank in 2023 from industry-expert Tom’s Hardware:

PC Gamer stated that AMD has 9% of market share compared to Nvidia’s roughly 82%. This is hard to rely on for concrete numbers as GPUs are down nearly 50% year-over-year and both Nvidia and AMD’s bigger gaming releases occurred in Q4. The upcoming 2023 numbers will represent the market share a bit better. In the past, we’ve reported that Peddie’s numbers were 25% AMD and 75% Nvidia. According to PC Gamer, Intel may be eating into AMD’s market share, but we won’t know this definitively until there’s reports on Radeon RX 7900 numbers.

Open Accelerator Module (OAM):

In 2019, Meta and Microsoft led a coalition to create open standards that allow for choice in processor and accelerator. The OAM came together to design packaging and motherboard socketing technology that allows accelerators with different sockets and thermals to be consistently deployed. 

The OAM form factor replaces the PCIe form factor accelerator cards. The OAM form factor is also ideal for interoperability across custom silicon, such as ASICs, which experience excessive signal insertion loss to PCIe connectors and the baseboard.

AMD’s Instinct GPU accelerators feature OAM baseboards. These universal hardware design standards allow IT departments to choose a new GPU architecture with a more simplified installation and provides the ability to upgrade at any time. The IT departments may or may not choose AMD over Nvidia but the process is easier with OAMs and open standards.

ROCm Open Software (AMD) versus CUDA (Nvidia) & Other AMD Weaknesses

Are you feeling bulled up? If only it were so simple! The predominant weakness AMD must address is ROCm open software versus CUDA. Our original thesis on Nvidia in 2018 pointed toward developers/CUDA being the primary moatthe primary moat. The CUDA software moat will be tougher to disrupt than Nvidia’s A100 and H100 hardware lead. This is because developers have to install new drivers, compilers, and will have to learn new libraries and tools. Meanwhile, Nvidia’s closed source CUDA has everything a developer needs to support code development. So, why would a developer switch? Answering this will not be so easy for AMD to answer compared to GPU performance, power efficiency, and total cost of ownership.

The long history of support CUDA that CUDA offers will be very hard for AMD to shake as it requires time to build up proper support, including libraries and frameworks. AMD’s ROCm has only a fraction of the libraries that CUDA offers. Meanwhile, software engineers in AI/ML lack only one thing: time. It’s a very competitive and fast-moving space, and AI engineers are in high demand. AI startups are getting more funding than any other type of startup right now. Money is tight for startups everywhere – except in AI.

Speaking of startups, AMD is particularly lacking in terms of bottom-up adoption and revenue, which refers to employees at a lower level helping to drive adoption rather than top-down from the C-suite. This is because AMD is weaker in terms of its consumer-level RDNA cards as they lack matrix cores for machine learning purposes.

In December, the company released RDNA3 which has more matrix operations, but does not compare to dedicated matrix cores. The CDNA GPUs from AMD are aimed at hyperscalers and fully satisfy AI/ML operations in this regard, however, the price is prohibitive for individual developers and smaller startups.

An example of ROCm lacking support is that the open source development platform underperforms with the popular 3D modeling program called Blender and does not offer support for bugs. Currently there is a statement on the wiki linux page: “ROCm HIP is known to currently have issuesissues with cycles in the while in the 3D Viewport (refer to the "issue" cited before to find workarounds), however rendering with Render > Render Image or F12 should work fine.”

Overall, developers not only must take the time to learn a new development platform but are likely to encounter roadblocks in terms of support for popular programs.

Pytorch is a popular, deep learning framework that has natively supported ROCm since 2021 and also supports CUDA directly in the interface. In June of 2022, ROCm 5.3 moved from Beta to Stable on the Pytorch 1.12 framework. This a good date to work with (June of 2022) in terms of when ROCm officially launched for AI/ML development.

PyTorch was founded by Meta’s AI research team, and it quickly overtook Google’s framework TensorFlow. The current version PyTorch 2.0 utilizes OpenAI’s Triton software stack. OpenAI open-sourced Triton in an effort to circumvent Nvidia’s closed source CUDA libraries.

Pictured Above: Beta tested throughput performance for AMD’s CDNA architecture with ROCm software platform and PyTorch Framework and libraries. You can expect this to increase dramatically with the MI300.throughput performance for AMD’s CDNA architecture with ROCm software platform and PyTorch Framework and libraries. You can expect this to increase dramatically with the MI300.

What we discussed earlier in the analysis is that the MI300A GPUs are unique due to the unified, coherent memory. It’s expected that AMD will offer memory models on the PyTorch framework to help developers optimize memory usage in AI acceleration.

ROCm is currently only supported on Linux but is expected to support Windows soon. This further prevents adoption as a serious contender to CUDA should be supported on both major operating systems.

Conclusion:

The MI300s are on the way and there is pent-up demand for GPUs. Prices are high, lead times are long, and the race for AI is fierce. AMD is an equation where strong management + strong track record on CPUs + lower prices, lower power usage, and fewer GPUs for LLMs = the one and only contender that can take on Nvidia. The MI300s have been in development for longer than one might assume and they arrive in volume in Q4.

Let’s get ready to rumble! –Michael Buffer

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Beth Kindig Discusses AI Stocks with Tier 1 Media

Posted on July 5, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund
Beth Kindig Discusses AI Stocks with Tier 1 Media

Tier 1 Media outlets such as Fox Business News, Bloomberg and Real Vision interviewed Beth four times over the past month about her call on Nvidia and also picked her brain on other AI-related topics.

Below are clips of Beth Kindig’s Tier 1 media coverage in the month of May and June.

Background:

I/O Fund Lead Tech Analyst Beth Kindig was early to Nvidia’s AI story with five years of coverage dating back to 2018 on the very specific thesis that this company would one day lead on AI. Beth’s prescient call on Nvidia and a handful of others led to the I/O Fund portfolio being positioned with a 45% allocation to AI stocks going into May. Compare this to Stanley Drunkenmiller, who had 29.5% allocationhad 29.5% allocation in AI, and has been covered by the press as the leading AI investor.

The stock is up 710% since her coverage five years ago when she stated: “Nvidia is already the universal platform for development, but this won’t become obvious until innovation in artificial intelligence matures. Developers are programming the future of artificial intelligence applications on Nvidia because GPUs are easier and more flexible than customized TPU chips from Google or FPGA chips used by Microsoft […] Data center revenue stands at 24% and is rapidly growing. When artificial intelligence matures, you can expect data center revenue to be Nvidia’s top revenue segment. Despite the corrections we’ve seen in the technology sector, and with Nvidia stock specifically, investors who remain patient will have a sizeable return in the future.

Nvidia price chart

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Beth on Fox Business News: Nvidia’s future AI dominance will be propelled by Software

In the clip below, Beth Kindig discusses with Charles Payne of Fox Business News how “it was a hardware that provided the $950 billion to $1 trillion market cap we see today [for Nvidia], but it will be software that will propels Nvidia into the Trillions for market cap.”

She specifically points toward DGX Cloud and AI-as-a-service for Nvidia’s software layer and how this is expected to eventually eclipse its hardware revenue. The cost of AI supercomputers can be several million dollars and Nvidia will help to lower the costs of AI development by allowing enterprises and startups to rent a supercomputer in the cloud for roughly $40,000 a month. Kindig states this is likely to be popular not only because the costs of AI development are prohibitive but because AI is a race in terms of time to market, as well.

The video below was originally recorded on June 9, 2023.

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Beth on Fox Business News: AI will drive $100 billion in revenue for Microsoft

Microsoft is another AI stock that Charles Payne interviewed Beth Kindig about later in the month of June. Payne specifically asked Kindig about her research note that stated the company is well positioned to increase revenue by $100 Billion. She cites Microsoft CoPilot as a primary driver as it can immediately increase enterprise spend on the Office 365 productivity suite, as well Bing Search which will add $2 billion in revenue for every 1% of market share that Bing takes from Google as a result of Chat-GPT. In addition to this, cybersecurity is a $15 billion market and it can easily double by 2027 with the help of AI.

The video below was originally recorded on June 15, 2023. You can view the clip here.

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Beth on Bloomberg Markets: Nvidia benefits from Accelerated Computing and Generative AI

Beth Kindig discusses Nvidia's competitive strength and AI. She speaks with Rishaad Salamat, David Ingles, and Yvonne Man on "Bloomberg Markets: China Open." Beth Kindig highlights that the company is very resilient and insulated. The reason is that companies have been saving cash to buy accelerated computing for the data center and Generative AI applications. Most tech companies are coming under tighter tech budgets, but the one area of growth is specifically AI within Big Tech capex budgets. This is the market Nvidia serves.

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Beth said that semiconductors will continue to be winners because this is what is enabling accelerated computing. In the past, data center investment was focused on processors. Now, they have to move to accelerated computing, and that’s where Nvidia benefits because NVDA is the leader in parallel processing.

At minute 3:00, Beth outlines the risks for China, stating that any long-term Nvidia investor should be prepared for China to be the primary threat for this company. “This can rock the stock, so to speak,” she stated. AI is an immense opportunity but “for these major design companies which includes AMD, China could not be more important.” 

The video was originally recorded on May 25, 2023.

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Real Vision

Beth was also interviewed by Real Vision, where she followed up on her initial call in January to buy Nvidia. At the time, she was asked what would cause her to sell the stock and she “absolutely nothing except maybe World War 3.” Fast forward, and today Beth has the highest returns from the 3 Ideas Series on Real Vision. The follow up is behind a paywall, but those with a Real Vision membership can view it here:

The video was originally recorded on May 25, 2023.

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As stated in the article, Beth Kindig and I/O Fund currently own shares of NVDA. This is not financial advice. Please consult with your financial advisor in regards to any stocks you buy.

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Cadence Design Systems – Generative AI For Chips and Systems

Posted on June 20, 2023June 30, 2026 by io-fund

AI continues to be an investment theme in all investor’s minds. NVDA’s recent results only added fuel to the fire. We’re continually analyzing the AI stack to find other companies that will benefit. We’ve identified companies such as Nvidia, AMD, Microsoft, Taiwan Semiconductor, which we’ve written about on several occasions, plus ASML and Super Micro, more recently. Note: We also covered Marvell on our forum, which you can read here.which you can read here.

Summary of Cadence: AI-Based EDA

Cadence Design Systems provides semiconductor chip design and printed circuit board design tools. In the era of AI, the company has expanded to AI-Based EDA, which stands for AI-Based Electronic Design Automation.

Cadence’s tools eliminate defects in semiconductors early-on during the verification process, which is quite valuable, as catching a bug too late can be exponentially expensive and problematic for design companies.

In addition to improving product quality, there is also a large opportunity for Cadence in reducing the time required to design chips, especially as design companies move quickly toward smaller node sizes. In the past, semiconductor companies, pursued time-consuming methods such as transistor-level and cell-based designs. More recently, Design Reuse has been a popular design method to increase productivity, which is taking an IP block and dropping this into the new chip. 

Cadence’s AI-Based EDA will greatly increase productivity by leveraging AI to augment human engineering. This is especially important as the nodes are shrinking, which increases the costs for the physical design process (dark blue in the chart below) and verification (dark green in the chart below).

Source: Cadence Design Systems, CadenceLIVE

Management made these general comments on the demand environment:

“Exploding chip and system design complexity will drive a significant non-linear growth in the workload requirements, opening up a massive opportunity for computational software to help realize these innovative products by investing more of the R&D spend in automation.”

Cadence offers a wide range of AI-based tools for digital implementation, regression and verification testing, or cell library characterization. However, more importantly, Cadence is moving into AI platforms which wrap the AI-based tools into frameworks. This expands the ways Cadence’s tools can be used.

Stock attributes that we like  

  1. Exposed to mission critical capex  – Chips are shrinking, which adds complexity to the design. Before actually spending millions on a chip or system, hyperscalers and design companies need to ensure that the chips and systems will work. Computational Software is an integral part of that process to design and verify that the chips will operate as intended. Clients include not only the semiconductor heavyweights such as Nvidia, AMD, Samsung and Broadcom but across other industries, such as Electric Vehicle systems.
  2. High switching costs for customers – After a client designs a successful chip using Cadence software. It’s less likely the client will switch to another software provider to design the next generation. This increases the likelihood that the client will renew the software licenses
  3. Subscription model – 85% of revenue is recurring with a visible backlog which contributes to consistent FCF generation and steady operating margins

AI Platforms for EDA:

Cerebrus: Digital Design and Optimization – 28% of Revenue

Uses training data from reinforcement machine for full flow optimization. What reinforcement machine learning does well is trying new options and learning what works, which lowers the human effort in the design process. This platform can be used for both at the system level and for silicon optimization. If you think of a car, it has a large system that combines many components and it has chips and circuit boards. In this case, Cadence can be used for the system or the chips.

“Among others, [Cerebrus] is now deployed at 10 of the top 20 semiconductor companies, including 7 of the top 10 semis and at several major hyperscalers. In Q4, we successfully delivered an advanced HPC design and a CPU design using our digital full flow and Cadence Cerebrus on TSMC N5 process technology, delivering 8% reduced power and a 9% area improvement while significantly improving engineering productivity. In 2022, several market-shaping customers, including Intel, NVIDIA, Broadcom, Samsung and Renesas shared their remarkable successes with Cadence Cerebrus at our CadenceLIVE user conferences.”

Optimality: In-Design Optimization

The optimal electro-mechanical system needs to run many cycles of simulations until the system reaches its performance goals. This platform provides the parameters to reduce the number of simulations required. In a case study the company provided, Optimality reduces the number of simulations from 3125 to 79 simulations. This reduces the number of required engineering hours from 66 hours to 1.6 hours. In a second case study, it reduces the number of simulations from 625 to 58 simulations, with a reduction of hours from 110 hours to 11.3 hours.

Verisium: AI-Driven Verification and Debugging – 26% of Revenue

Combines the AI-enabled tools for simulation, emulation and prototyping and uses AI techniques to find the failures. It can be very time consuming to figure out the cause of a failure. By using AI, the engineer can go quickly to the root cause of the failure and to the bug fix. 

Per management, the verification business grew 28% year-over-year, and is used for mobile, hyperscale, high performance computing and electric vehicles. It was also stated that Verisium delivered up to 30X improvement in efficient root cause analysis.

Allegro X AI: AI-Driven PCB – 12% of Revenue

Allegro X helps to optimize circuit boards and systems using generative AI. It particularly helps with automating the placement and routing of components on a board.

Virtuoso: AI-Driven Custom Layout – 22% of Revenue

Virtuoso is a platform that helps move existing chips design and intellectual property over to a new generation through AI trained algorithms. One reason that Cadence is defensible against large language models is that these platforms require large data sets, whereas Cadence’s platforms can be trained on a much smaller yet highly specialized data set. This is ideal for chip designs, which are proprietary and are not shared. Cadence is ideal as the platforms can train using the smaller data sets that a company owns (and does not share).

Regarding the two generative AI platforms, Allegro and Virtuoso, the following was stated on the earnings call:

“Generative AI design tools are revolutionizing chip and system development by delivering unprecedented optimization and productivity benefits. Customers have already been benefiting from our ground-breaking generative AI solutions in the digital, verification and systems areas, and with the recent introductions of Virtuoso Studio and Allegro X AI, we now have an unmatched chip to package to board to systems generative AI portfolio.” Several customers including MediaTek, Renesas, Analog Devices and TSMC provided testimonials for the launch.

IP – 12% of Revenue

IP offerings consist of pre-verified, customizable functional blocks, which customers integrate into their ICs to accelerate the development process and to reduce the risk of errors in the design process.

JedAI: Joint Enterprise Data and AI Platform:

In September, the company released a platform to fuel the AI platforms called JedAI. This horizontal platform provides a knowledge repository between projects and serves as the big data analytics layer. There are many tools and projects required for hardware designs (listed above), and Jed AI provides the fuel (or a knowledge base) to improve efficiency for future designs from past projects. This is done by leveraging data from previous design projects, workload data (runtime, memory usage) and workflow data.

Below is an engineer’s view using Cadence’s chip design software.

Helping to improve Nvidia’s GPU Performance

For example, by integrating Computation Fluid Dynamics (CFD) with System Design Automation, Nvidia was able to improve the speed and power of efficiency of its GPU chips. Computation Fluid Dynamics (CFD) is an aspect of multi-physics system analysis that stimulates the behavior of fluid and their thermodynamic properties using numerical models.

Per the management team:

“Recently with our collaboration with NVIDIA, Jensen talked about that Cadence CFD on GPU for the same cost is giving a 9x improvement in speed up and 17x improvement in power efficiency. And GPUs are slightly more expensive than CPUs. I mean, typically, I would guess, at least 3x to 5x. So, you're getting 30x to 50x speed up on GPUs that normalized for cost is still getting 10x or 9x improvement in speed. So that's a huge improvement based on our special algorithms, because we have a long history of massive parallelism in CPUs and now we are applying it to GPUs, especially in SDA, both for electromagnetic and CFD. So, I think that can also provide a lot of growth. I talked about AI and all for chip and system, but this acceleration on GPUs, accelerated compute for system analysis is another big vector.” 

Evolving from EDA to SDA

Currently, there is a shift in electronic design systems from EDA (Electronic Design Automation) to SDA (System Design Automation). No longer can components be designed in isolation and integrated by systems engineers. As a result, electronic and mechanical design are increasingly becoming intermingled which requires the co-design and co-optimization of every component in an electronics system and every aspect of the physical nature of the systems.

Traditional EDA can already solve system simulations measured in billions of transistors. In the future, SDA will be able to process simulations involving 1 trillion transistors. Per the management team: “[…] some of these chips have 100 billion transistors, right, on 1 inch by 1 inch. And if you look at by 2030, they will have 1 trillion transistors, okay? So just in terms of size, it will be 10x more. And then the chips are more complicated and then you add software on top of it. So the design complexity that our customers need to do will go up by at least 20, 30x in the next 5 to 7 years. So the only way to meet that is by more (SDA) automation. That’s the history of our industry, And the best way to do more automation right now is using AI.”

Business model + Historical Growth (2016-2022) 

Between 2016 and 2022, on the back of these positive secular tailwinds Cadence delivered a revenue CAGR of 11.9% and non-GAAP EPS of 23.4%.  Despite selling products into an industry that can be cyclical, Cadence has been insulated from the profitability ups and downs of its semiconductor customers.

Because of its subscription model, 85% of Cadence’s revenue is recurring. Typically, Cadence enters into time-based license arrangements which grants customers the right to access and use all of the licensed products at the outset of an arrangement and updates are generally made available throughout the entire term of the arrangement, which is generally two to three years. Cadence’s updates provide continued access to evolving technology as customers’ designs migrate to more advanced nodes and as its customers’ technological requirements evolve. Payments are generally received in equal or near equal installments over the term of the agreement. Clients have the option to renew the license at the end of the agreement.

The 2022 revenue breakdown and 22/21 YoY growth rates for the 5 software segments:

The remaining 15% of revenue is upfront revenue mainly from the sale of Emulation and FPGA Prototyping hardware equipment. Typically, it’s the same clients who use the software and then use the hardware for testing and verification purposes.

China contributes 17% of revenue.

Profitability:

Similar to its Revenue and Non-GAAP eps, Cadence’s non-GAAP operating margins have steadily increased from about 26% in 2016 to ending at 36% in Q422.

Additionally, FCF generation increased coupled with share buybacks and healthy balance sheet.

Q123 Financials:

For q1fy23, Cadence reported revenue of $1.02b (+13.3% y/y) which matched the upper end of their guidance of between $1b-$1.02.  Non-GAAP eps was $1.29 which beat their guidance of $1.27 and consensus of $1.25.

For q223, Cadence guided revenue $960 million to $980 million, non-GAAP EPS $1.15 to $1.19 and GAAP EPS $0.73 to $0.77.

For q1fy23, GAAP operating margin was 31.6%, right in the middle of company guidance, vs 35.4% last year.  While non-GAAP operating margin 42.1%, lower than 44% in the prior year, but exceeded the upper end of management’s 42% guidance.

For q223, Cadence guided non-GAAP operating margin 40% to 41% and GAAP operating margin 29% to 30%.  

Looking at the balance sheet, Cadence finished q1 with $917 million in cash and debt of $678m. Operating cash flow was $267 million. And repurchased $125 million worth of Cadence shares.

The Q123 backlog stood at $5.4b vs $5.8b Q422

2023 guidance

Cadence updated their 2023 full guidance. The revenue range was increased from $4.03b to $4.07b vs $4.0b to $4.06b. GAAP eps in the range of $3.26 to $3.34 versus $3.24 to $3.34 and non-GAAP eps in the range of $4.96 to $5.04 versus $4.90 to $5.00

GAAP operating margin in the range of 30% to 31% vs 30.5% to 32% and non-GAAP operating margin in the range of 41% to 42%  vs 40.5% to 42%.

Operating cash flow in the range of $1.3b to $1.4b. Expects to use approximately 50% of free cash flow to repurchase Cadence shares.

Cadence’s full year 2023 guidance represents of +14% sales growth and 17%, non-GAAP EPS YoY. Full year guidance was very modestly raised by $20, spread evenly between hardware and software. Despite the better-than-expected hardware sales in Q1, Cadence is taking a wait and see approach and didn’t want to further raise the FY guidance at this time.    

Initially, the stock reacted negatively to the Q1 earnings report likely on 1) disappointment that 2023 guidance was not raised higher, 2) sequential q4/q1 backlog decline and 3) q1/q2 decline in sales guidance. It has since recovered with the Nvidia’s blowout earnings likely driving it higher. See below for questions from analysts on these points.

Earnings Call:

Analysts were concerned about the 5% sequential decline in revenue provided in the guidance:

Question

Oh, sorry, yes. And then, my second question on the guide, it looks like second quarter is going to decline sequentially by about 5%, consistent with what we saw last year too. So maybe just a quick refresher on what's driving the seasonality here?

John Wall

Yes, when you look at it, it will be — it'll show up in the functional verification number next quarter. I think the — when I look at — like Q1 was great. I mean, functional verification was up 30% year-over-year. The quarter was up low teens. When I look at Q2, Q2 also looks great. It's going to be up low teens again compared to Q1 '22, but functional verification will be up probably closer to 20% rather than 30%.

But — so, it's our expectation that in our guide, we're assuming that the recurring revenue mix for the year stays at 85-15, 85% recurring, 15% upfront, same as what we experienced last year. Now, in Q1, it was 80%, 20%, so there was a lot of open revenue for the hardware deliveries that went out in Q1. In Q2 — we expect Q2, Q3, Q4 to be less than the 80-20, and it will average 85-15 for the year. So, you're seeing that in the Q2 guide”

Regarding Q4/Q1 decline in backlog from $5.8 to $5.4b. Bookings and renewal environment continue to be solid. H1 tend to be weaker. Q123 was also impacted by timing and big renewals in H1 2022.

“The second half of this year is very heavily weighted for bookings for the total year. We're very light in the first half of the year for software renewals. The second half of the year, Q3 and Q4, are very strong for software renewals this year. Unlike last year, last year, I think the first half was we had a number of big software renewals in the first half, we don't have that this year. And when you look at the second half, of course, I mean any big renewal you have in Q3 — at the end of last year, we had like nine months in RPO for that and now it's only six months at the end of this quarter. So, it's really just a function of renewal timing and the fact that the first half of the year is light for renewal timing [..] What I was trying to convey was that we had very few software renewals that came up for renewal in Q1 and therefore bookings were expected to be light. The beauty of the recurring revenue model that we have is that the timing of those renewals is not especially important, but it's the annual value of those renewals. And that we continue to see growth in the annual value of those bookings, and we see growth across all of the businesses.” 

Key Risks

Currently, the biggest risk is Cadence’s 17% exposure to China where they sell software and hardware such as Emulation and FGPA Prototyping hardware equipment. Hardware sales to China were strong in Q123. Total hardware sales have ranged from 15-20% of sales and are recognized upfront.

Similar to other tech sectors, if the US gov’t restricts hardware citing competitive reasons, this will adversely Cadence.

However, at the moment there is nothing to indicate that this will happen. But any headline suggesting that will impact the stock price. 

Conclusion:

Taking into consideration the recent AI rally that lifted Cadence stock price, coupled with the sequential decline in Q2 and premium valuation, we are sensitive to entry price levels.

We expect it to be a medium and long-term winner. Cadence occupies an important piece of the AI stack and is at the intersection of secular megatrends such as 5G, hyperscale computing and AI/ML that are driving sustained investments by its semiconductor and systems customers. Despite the macroeconomic uncertainty, Cadence’s clients continue making significant investment in their next-generation products, resulting in robust design activity.

Ultimately, we will want to see revenue accelerate beyond the mid-teens. It’s a matter of deciding if the story is strong enough to buy in advance of an acceleration or wait for higher revenue to be reported and forego an earnings pop.

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