Innodata boosted its full-year revenue growth outlook by five points in Q2, now forecasting more than 45% growth this year, driven by strong demand, significant new deal wins and a large pipeline geared toward the second-half of the year.
However, digging into the details reveals that Innodata’s largest customer has not expanded over the last two quarters, and remains at the $135 million annualized rate as stated in Q4. This comes despite Innodata discussing expansion opportunities with this customer and a second SOW signed in Q1, with growth not yet materializing.
The CEO offered an update in Q2 that they’ve won “several new projects” with their largest customer and have others in the pipeline:
“We recently won several new projects with our largest customer and we have others in pipeline that are not yet included in our forecast, but which we think are reasonably likely. Several of these new projects are under the second SOW we reported signing with this customer last quarter. We believe that the second SOW potentially gives us access to an even larger generative AI revenue pool with this customer.”
Innodata is a $1.5B market cap stock highly dependent on the announcement of new customer wins and expanding its projects with the largest customer. Our strategy is to watch price closely for the best risk/reward on an entry; and any entry will have a tight stop.
We’ve discussed in the past that Innodata appears to have a low valuation when compared to peers. Our previous analysis also went into the details of Innodata’s products, market positioning and can be found here: “Innodata: Early-Stage AI Data Engineering; Lumpy Growth”
Revenue up 79.4% YoY
Innodata reported a slight revenue beat in Q2, with revenue coming in 3.6% ahead of estimates to $58.4 million, up 79.4% YoY. This did mark a more than 40 point deceleration in growth sequentially, yet that was expected coming into the quarter.
However, there have been some shifts in forward estimates for Q3 and Q4. For Q3, revenue estimates have been revised nearly $2 million lower since June, now projecting revenue of $59.8 million for growth of just 14.5% YoY. Q4 revenue has been revised more than $5.5 million higher to $70.9 million, for growth of almost 20% YoY. This suggest Q3 is now expected to see be a bottom of sorts before rebounding and reaccelerating into 2026.
For the full-year, Innodata raised its revenue growth guidance from 40% to >45%, now implying revenue of >$247 million, up from $239 million as of Q1. It is important to keep in mind the fluid nature of Innodata’s business, and that any new contractual agreements or expansions could have a large and/or immediate impact on revenue.
Management stated that the guidance hike was driven by “significant new deals that have been finalized since our last call as well as several deals that we believe are highly likely to close in the near term.” Any of these new deals could easily boost growth depending on how quickly they scale.
One key point that could be behind the post-earnings sell-off was some comments made by management around customer engagement and deal sizes. CEO Jack Abuhoff said that with one Big Tech customer, Innodata was “recently awarded a number of significant engagements… enabling us to forecast $10 million of revenue from this customer in the second half of this year,” up from $0.2 million over the last four quarters. Given the size of the revenue guide raise at just $8 million implied, this comment raises some questions about growth in 2H from other core customers.
Largest Customer Accounts for 58% of Revenue
Innodata provided only a brief update on customer progress this quarter, one with its largest customer and the other being the $10 million revenue opportunity discussed above.
With its largest customer, Innodata said that it won “several new projects,” with some of these being under the second scope-of-work (SOW) signed last quarter. Management added that there are other projects in the pipeline with the customer that are not yet included in its forecast, but are “reasonably likely” to be signed in the future.
Innodata’s largest customer accounted for 58% of revenue in Q2 and 59% of revenue for 1H, implying contributions of ~$33.9 million in Q2 and $68.9 million in 1H. This represents no change from Q4 (ie. no expansion) when it was stated the customer was at a $135 million annualized run rate, or ~$34 million quarterly.
Innodata also had no other >10% customers, implying the remaining customers are not spending more than $5.8 million per quarter with the company. The forecast for $10 million in 2H from another customer would likely make said customer Innodata’s second largest and a second >10% customer.
AI Segment Grew 99% YoY on Top of Tough Comps
DDS remains the key driver of Innodata’s growth due to its role in handling AI data preparation, labeling and annotation, AI training and related services.
DDS revenue grew 99% YoY to $50.58 million, though this was slightly down sequentially from $50.83 million in Q1. Although the segment’s growth barely dropped out of the triple-digit range, what’s impressive is that revenue still practically doubled YoY against a 93% growth comp.
Synodex revenue rose 4% YoY to $2.06 million, slowing from nearly 8% growth in Q1.
Agility revenue rose 11.5% YoY to $5.75 million, flat with growth from Q1.
Margins and Adjusted EBITDA expand significantly YoY
Innodata’s margins have significantly expanded YoY, which helps set Innodata apart from stocks in the $1B or $2B market cap range (Innodata is at $1.5B market cap). There was a marginal sequential decline QoQ yet not enough to matter in terms of the overall improvement seen from strong margin and adjusted EBITDA expansion over the past few quarters.
For example, GAAP operating margin was up 14 points YoY from 1.3% to 15.3% in the current quarter.
Q2 GAAP gross margin was 39.4% in Q2, down nearly half a point sequentially but up nearly 11 points YoY. Adjusted gross margin was 42.9%, down slightly from Q1 but up more than 9.5 points YoY.
Q2 GAAP operating margin was 15.3%, up 1.1 points sequentially and up more than 14 points YoY.
Q2 GAAP net margin was 12.4%, down 1 point sequentially but up from approximately 0% in the year ago quarter.
Turning to adjusted EBITDA — Innodata saw a slight sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin in Q2, though on a YoY basis, adjusted EBITDA margin expanded more than 14 points. Innodata had guided for YoY growth in adjusted EBITDA with no further clarity, and has currently reported nearly $26 million for 1H ’25 versus $34.6 million for all of FY24.
Consolidated adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.7%, up from 21.8% in Q1 and 8.6% in the year ago quarter.
DDS adjusted EBITDA margin was 24.2%, up from 22.7% in Q1 and just 5% in the year ago quarter. Tracking DDS’ adjusted EBITDA is important considering the segment accounts for more than 92% of consolidated adjusted EBITDA.
Synodex adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.3%, up from 20.8% in Q1 but down from 26.3% in the year ago quarter
Agility adjusted EBITDA margin was 9.7%, faring the worst out of the three segments as this was down 4 points from Q1 and down nearly 10 points YoY.
EPS Beat by 80% yet EPS expected to decelerate in coming quarters
Innodata handily beat on EPS in Q2, reporting $0.20 in GAAP EPS versus consensus estimates for $0.11. Looking ahead, Q3 EPS estimates are following revenue in moving slightly lower, while Q4 estimates have moved slightly higher. Since our last report, Innodata: Early-Stage AI Data Engineering; Lumpy Growth, here’s how estimates have changed:
Q3 EPS has been revised $0.03 lower, from $0.17 to $0.14, for a YoY decline of more than (73%), though as a reminder the year-ago comp is technically inflated from a $5.9 million income tax benefit.
Q4 EPS has been revised $0.02 higher, from $0.19 to $0.21, for a YoY decline of (31.2%).
For FY25, Innodata is expected to report EPS of $0.76, down (14.6%) YoY before rebounding to 34.5% growth in FY26 to $1.02. To note, FY26’s EPS estimate is still unchanged since June’s writeup.
Cash Flow Declines 60% QoQ
Another blemish in Q2’s report were cash flows, which declined more than (60%) sequentially. Innodata’s balance sheet remains healthy, and the company still has the entirety of its $30 million credit line available.
Operating cash flow was $4.23 million, down (61%) QoQ. OCF margin was 7.3%, down more than 11 points QoQ. For 1H, operating cash flow was $15.1 million, up more than 139% YoY.
Free cash flow was $2.5 million, down more than (70%) QoQ. Free cash flow margin was 4.3%, down more than 10 points QoQ. For 1H, free cash flow was $11.0 million, up nearly 5x YoY.
Cash and equivalents totaled $59.8 million, and debt remained zero.
Deferred revenue was $6.5 million, down from $8.0 million in Q1.
Earnings Call Q&A
There were two topics on the earnings call Q&A session worth highlighting. The first was questions about Scale AI and if Innodata will see more customers onboard as a result of Meta’s large investment of $14.3 billion. The second was why agentic AI will drive more uses cases for the simulation data solutions such as what Innodata and its competitors offer.
Scale AI’s investment is a potential/speculative tailwind:
We covered why Scale AI’s investment could be a potential/speculative tailwind in our prior analysis stating: " Following Meta’s investment, it was rumored that Google, OpenAI and Tesla are looking elsewhere to avoid strengthening Meta at the cost of their proprietary data. Although it’s speculative, the exodus of major players from Scale AI could become a tailwind for Innodata. “
An analyst asked something similar on the Q2 earnings call. The CEO remained vague yet did state that something could materialize in the next couple of months:
“George Frederick Sutton, Craig-Hallum Capital Group:
Nice results. Congratulations. So I wondered if we could talk about during the quarter, your largest competitor, Scale AI was a large majority purchased by Meta. And we've had a few of the large tech companies come out and say they would no longer work with Scale AI. These ostensibely would be tech companies that you have statements of work with. So I'm just curious if you can kind of give us the after effect of that acquisition as you've seen it.
Jack S. Abuhoff, President, CEO & Director
[…] We have, in light of this stepped up that effort with certain companies and there are certain conversations that are going on and are now planned to be happening over the next couple of months that I think could be very exciting for us. I don't know that I can get into particulars much beyond that, but I'll reiterate that we do see an opportunity to accelerate our market presence.”
Agentic AI to drive forward major use cases:
Although agentic AI may still be a few years out before it’s commercially viable, the CEO pointed out the future of large language model (LLM) improvements lies in the quality of data. In order to have agentic AI that can tackle multivariant problems, training data will need to be supplemented with simulation training data.
The CEO stated the following on the call:
“We believe agent-based AI is going to serve as the cornerstone technology that unlocks the full value of large language models and generative AI for enterprises. Moreover, we believe that progress on Agentic AI is likely to soon result in a ChatGPT moment for robotics. Within the next several years, we believe Agentic AI will be served at the edge in hardware devices with which we will commonly interact in many respects in our lives. We believe the market for simulation data services and evaluation services to drive Agentic AI and robotics is likely to dwarf the market for frontier model post-training data.”
Conclusion:
We pointed out in our original analysis that Innodata has many competitors, and we provided an overview of how Innodata must find a path to compete with AI-native startups for data-as-a-service for AI training data. As proven by Scale AI, the market for data labeling and supervised learning is only going to grow in importance – but will Innodata be able to compete? That is a question this earnings report did not answer for investors. For an opportunity like this, we rely heavily on technicals.
Damien Robbins, Equity Analyst at I/O Fund contributed to this analysis.
Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the Fund’s positions. We then share that information with our readers. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis.
Innodata boosted its full-year revenue growth outlook by five points in Q2, now forecasting more than 45% growth this year, driven by strong demand, significant new deal wins and a large pipeline geared toward the second-half of the year.
However, digging into the details reveals that Innodata’s largest customer has not expanded over the last two quarters, and remains at the $135 million annualized rate as stated in Q4. This comes despite Innodata discussing expansion opportunities with this customer and a second SOW signed in Q1, with growth not yet materializing.
The CEO offered an update in Q2 that they’ve won “several new projects” with their largest customer and have others in the pipeline:
“We recently won several new projects with our largest customer and we have others in pipeline that are not yet included in our forecast, but which we think are reasonably likely. Several of these new projects are under the second SOW we reported signing with this customer last quarter. We believe that the second SOW potentially gives us access to an even larger generative AI revenue pool with this customer.”
Innodata is a $1.5B market cap stock highly dependent on the announcement of new customer wins and expanding its projects with the largest customer. Our strategy is to watch price closely for the best risk/reward on an entry; and any entry will have a tight stop.
We’ve discussed in the past that Innodata appears to have a low valuation when compared to peers. Our previous analysis also went into the details of Innodata’s products, market positioning and can be found here: “Innodata: Early-Stage AI Data Engineering; Lumpy Growth”
Discovery Members: You are invited to join Knox Ridley on Monday, August 18th at 4:30 pm EST for a special Discovery webinar where he will discuss technical setups on Discovery stocks.a special Discovery webinar where he will discuss technical setups on Discovery stocks.
Revenue up 79.4% YoY
Innodata reported a slight revenue beat in Q2, with revenue coming in 3.6% ahead of estimates to $58.4 million, up 79.4% YoY. This did mark a more than 40 point deceleration in growth sequentially, yet that was expected coming into the quarter.
However, there have been some shifts in forward estimates for Q3 and Q4. For Q3, revenue estimates have been revised nearly $2 million lower since June, now projecting revenue of $59.8 million for growth of just 14.5% YoY. Q4 revenue has been revised more than $5.5 million higher to $70.9 million, for growth of almost 20% YoY. This suggest Q3 is now expected to see be a bottom of sorts before rebounding and reaccelerating into 2026.
For the full-year, Innodata raised its revenue growth guidance from 40% to >45%, now implying revenue of >$247 million, up from $239 million as of Q1. It is important to keep in mind the fluid nature of Innodata’s business, and that any new contractual agreements or expansions could have a large and/or immediate impact on revenue.
Management stated that the guidance hike was driven by “significant new deals that have been finalized since our last call as well as several deals that we believe are highly likely to close in the near term.” Any of these new deals could easily boost growth depending on how quickly they scale.
One key point that could be behind the post-earnings sell-off was some comments made by management around customer engagement and deal sizes. CEO Jack Abuhoff said that with one Big Tech customer, Innodata was “recently awarded a number of significant engagements… enabling us to forecast $10 million of revenue from this customer in the second half of this year,” up from $0.2 million over the last four quarters. Given the size of the revenue guide raise at just $8 million implied, this comment raises some questions about growth in 2H from other core customers.
Largest Customer Accounts for 58% of Revenue
Innodata provided only a brief update on customer progress this quarter, one with its largest customer and the other being the $10 million revenue opportunity discussed above.
With its largest customer, Innodata said that it won “several new projects,” with some of these being under the second scope-of-work (SOW) signed last quarter. Management added that there are other projects in the pipeline with the customer that are not yet included in its forecast, but are “reasonably likely” to be signed in the future.
Innodata’s largest customer accounted for 58% of revenue in Q2 and 59% of revenue for 1H, implying contributions of ~$33.9 million in Q2 and $68.9 million in 1H. This represents no change from Q4 (ie. no expansion) when it was stated the customer was at a $135 million annualized run rate, or ~$34 million quarterly.
Innodata also had no other >10% customers, implying the remaining customers are not spending more than $5.8 million per quarter with the company. The forecast for $10 million in 2H from another customer would likely make said customer Innodata’s second largest and a second >10% customer.
AI Segment Grew 99% YoY on Top of Tough Comps
DDS remains the key driver of Innodata’s growth due to its role in handling AI data preparation, labeling and annotation, AI training and related services.
DDS revenue grew 99% YoY to $50.58 million, though this was slightly down sequentially from $50.83 million in Q1. Although the segment’s growth barely dropped out of the triple-digit range, what’s impressive is that revenue still practically doubled YoY against a 93% growth comp.
Synodex revenue rose 4% YoY to $2.06 million, slowing from nearly 8% growth in Q1.
Agility revenue rose 11.5% YoY to $5.75 million, flat with growth from Q1.
Margins and Adjusted EBITDA expand significantly YoY
Innodata’s margins have significantly expanded YoY, which helps set Innodata apart from stocks in the $1B or $2B market cap range (Innodata is at $1.5B market cap). There was a marginal sequential decline QoQ yet not enough to matter in terms of the overall improvement seen from strong margin and adjusted EBITDA expansion over the past few quarters.
For example, GAAP operating margin was up 14 points YoY from 1.3% to 15.3% in the current quarter.
Q2 GAAP gross margin was 39.4% in Q2, down nearly half a point sequentially but up nearly 11 points YoY. Adjusted gross margin was 42.9%, down slightly from Q1 but up more than 9.5 points YoY.
Q2 GAAP operating margin was 15.3%, up 1.1 points sequentially and up more than 14 points YoY.
Q2 GAAP net margin was 12.4%, down 1 point sequentially but up from approximately 0% in the year ago quarter.
Turning to adjusted EBITDA — Innodata saw a slight sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin in Q2, though on a YoY basis, adjusted EBITDA margin expanded more than 14 points. Innodata had guided for YoY growth in adjusted EBITDA with no further clarity, and has currently reported nearly $26 million for 1H ’25 versus $34.6 million for all of FY24.
Consolidated adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.7%, up from 21.8% in Q1 and 8.6% in the year ago quarter.
DDS adjusted EBITDA margin was 24.2%, up from 22.7% in Q1 and just 5% in the year ago quarter. Tracking DDS’ adjusted EBITDA is important considering the segment accounts for more than 92% of consolidated adjusted EBITDA.
Synodex adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.3%, up from 20.8% in Q1 but down from 26.3% in the year ago quarter
Agility adjusted EBITDA margin was 9.7%, faring the worst out of the three segments as this was down 4 points from Q1 and down nearly 10 points YoY.
EPS Beat by 80% yet EPS expected to decelerate in coming quarters
Innodata handily beat on EPS in Q2, reporting $0.20 in GAAP EPS versus consensus estimates for $0.11. Looking ahead, Q3 EPS estimates are following revenue in moving slightly lower, while Q4 estimates have moved slightly higher. Since our last report, Innodata: Early-Stage AI Data Engineering; Lumpy Growth, here’s how estimates have changed:
Q3 EPS has been revised $0.03 lower, from $0.17 to $0.14, for a YoY decline of more than (73%), though as a reminder the year-ago comp is technically inflated from a $5.9 million income tax benefit.
Q4 EPS has been revised $0.02 higher, from $0.19 to $0.21, for a YoY decline of (31.2%).
For FY25, Innodata is expected to report EPS of $0.76, down (14.6%) YoY before rebounding to 34.5% growth in FY26 to $1.02. To note, FY26’s EPS estimate is still unchanged since June’s writeup.
Cash Flow Declines 60% QoQ
Another blemish in Q2’s report were cash flows, which declined more than (60%) sequentially. Innodata’s balance sheet remains healthy, and the company still has the entirety of its $30 million credit line available.
Operating cash flow was $4.23 million, down (61%) QoQ. OCF margin was 7.3%, down more than 11 points QoQ. For 1H, operating cash flow was $15.1 million, up more than 139% YoY.
Free cash flow was $2.5 million, down more than (70%) QoQ. Free cash flow margin was 4.3%, down more than 10 points QoQ. For 1H, free cash flow was $11.0 million, up nearly 5x YoY.
Cash and equivalents totaled $59.8 million, and debt remained zero.
Deferred revenue was $6.5 million, down from $8.0 million in Q1.
Earnings Call Q&A
There were two topics on the earnings call Q&A session worth highlighting. The first was questions about Scale AI and if Innodata will see more customers onboard as a result of Meta’s large investment of $14.3 billion. The second was why agentic AI will drive more uses cases for the simulation data solutions such as what Innodata and its competitors offer.
Scale AI’s investment is a potential/speculative tailwind:
We covered why Scale AI’s investment could be a potential/speculative tailwind in our prior analysis stating: " Following Meta’s investment, it was rumored that Google, OpenAI and Tesla are looking elsewhere to avoid strengthening Meta at the cost of their proprietary data. Although it’s speculative, the exodus of major players from Scale AI could become a tailwind for Innodata. “
An analyst asked something similar on the Q2 earnings call. The CEO remained vague yet did state that something could materialize in the next couple of months:
“George Frederick Sutton, Craig-Hallum Capital Group:
Nice results. Congratulations. So I wondered if we could talk about during the quarter, your largest competitor, Scale AI was a large majority purchased by Meta. And we've had a few of the large tech companies come out and say they would no longer work with Scale AI. These ostensibely would be tech companies that you have statements of work with. So I'm just curious if you can kind of give us the after effect of that acquisition as you've seen it.
Jack S. Abuhoff, President, CEO & Director
[…] We have, in light of this stepped up that effort with certain companies and there are certain conversations that are going on and are now planned to be happening over the next couple of months that I think could be very exciting for us. I don't know that I can get into particulars much beyond that, but I'll reiterate that we do see an opportunity to accelerate our market presence.”
Agentic AI to drive forward major use cases:
Although agentic AI may still be a few years out before it’s commercially viable, the CEO pointed out the future of large language model (LLM) improvements lies in the quality of data. In order to have agentic AI that can tackle multivariant problems, training data will need to be supplemented with simulation training data.
The CEO stated the following on the call:
“We believe agent-based AI is going to serve as the cornerstone technology that unlocks the full value of large language models and generative AI for enterprises. Moreover, we believe that progress on Agentic AI is likely to soon result in a ChatGPT moment for robotics. Within the next several years, we believe Agentic AI will be served at the edge in hardware devices with which we will commonly interact in many respects in our lives. We believe the market for simulation data services and evaluation services to drive Agentic AI and robotics is likely to dwarf the market for frontier model post-training data.”
Conclusion:
We pointed out in our original analysis that Innodata has many competitors, and we provided an overview of how Innodata must find a path to compete with AI-native startups for data-as-a-service for AI training data. As proven by Scale AI, the market for data labeling and supervised learning is only going to grow in importance – but will Innodata be able to compete? That is a question this earnings report did not answer for investors. For an opportunity like this, we rely heavily on technicals.
Discovery Members: You are invited to join Knox Ridley on Monday, August 18th at 4:30 pm EST for a special Discovery webinar where he will discuss technical setups on Discovery stocks.a special Discovery webinar where he will discuss technical setups on Discovery stocks.
Damien Robbins, Equity Analyst at I/O Fund contributed to this analysis.
Please note: The I/O Fund conducts research and draws conclusions for the Fund’s positions. We then share that information with our readers. This is not a guarantee of a stock’s performance. Please consult your personal financial advisor before buying any stock in the companies mentioned in this analysis.
Vertiv offered a mixed report this quarter with stronger commentary about Q4 as opposed to Q3, along with a slight miss on adjusted operating margin. Considering the margins are already thin for many AI hardware stocks, any miss tends to be amplified. With that said, the stock has been on a tear off the Apri lows – up 130% since early April. Given the report was not a blowout, a cooling off may be in order regardless of the earnings numbers.
Notably, Vertiv will not win any hypergrowth stock awards, especially as management has previously offered CAGR guidance of 15% to 17% through 2029. Rather, it’s where Vertiv is positioned as an AI infrastructure partner especially as the trend turns toward modular infrastructure that makes this a stock to watch.
Essentially, all roads point toward Vertiv’s power and thermal solutions becoming increasingly important for future generations of rack scale solutions. Personally, I’d like to see material evidence the current CAGR guidance through 2029 will end up 2-3X higher before we add VRT to our portfolio. This is AI, so anything is possible. I've outlined important information on how Vertiv can achieve this under the Q&A section below.
Specifically for this earnings report, the following are a few key items:
Vertiv reported a large beat this quarter with 35% revenue growth in Q2 due to the America geo reporting very strong YoY growth while EMEA lagged.
Vertiv missed on adjusted operating margin, largely due to impact of tariffs and operational inefficiencies. The company lowered their adjusted operating margin for the year despite QoQ adjusted operating margin increases through Q4.
However, if management meets their margin guidance for Q4, it will represent the strongest margins since the company has been on the public markets with adjusted operating margin of 23.6%
EPS growth surpassed top line growth at 42%
Modular AI infrastructure remains Vertiv’s top catalyst and makes this stock one to watch
Vertiv reported 35.4% YoY growth in revenue in Q2 to $2.64 billion, with organic growth of 34% on continued strength in the Americas and APAC, noting that demand remains strong with its order pipeline expanding in all regions.
Supported by these demand signals and favorable pricing, Vertiv hiked its full year revenue guidance to $9.925 to $10.075 billion ($10 billion at midpoint), up $550 million from its prior view for $9.325 to $9.575 billion. This points to YoY growth of 24.8% YoY, more than 7 points higher than its prior guidance. Organic growth was raised to 23% to 25%, up 6 points from its prior guidance at midpoint.
Despite the FY25 raise, Vertiv is still guiding for a rather swift topline deceleration through Q4.
Q3 revenue was guided between $2.51 to $2.59 billion, or 23% YoY growth at the $2.55 billion midpoint. Organic growth was guided to be 20% to 24%. This sequential decline goes against typical seasonality for VRT.
Q4 revenue was guided at $2.735 to $2.815 billion, or 18.3% YoY at the $2.775 billion midpoint. Organic growth was guided at 16% at midpoint. This would represent a ~17 point deceleration in growth in the second half of the year.
If we zoom out, then Q2 represents the largest beat Vertiv has seen in recent years. As we look forward, the guide for Q4 represents a $200M increase between Q3-Q4.
As noted previously, the Americas and APAC drove Q2’s outperformance, with Americas growth accelerating more than 14 points sequentially. This is the strongest growth in the Americas region we’ve recorded since covering the stock for 2.5 years.
Americas revenue increased 42.9% YoY and 43.2% organic to $1.60 billion. Growth was driven by hyperscale and colocation markets with strength in switchgear, busway, liquid cooling, and infrastructure solutions.
APAC revenue accelerated slightly to 36.9% YoY and 36.8% organic to $560.2 million. Growth was primarily driven by hyperscale and colocation markets in China.
EMEA revenue accelerated back into the double digit range after a soft Q1, up 12.5% YoY and 7% organic to $475.6 million. Vertiv said its EMEA pipeline remains strong with continued sequential growth.
For Q3:
Americas growth is expected to be in the mid-30% range.
APAC growth is expected to be in the low 20% range.
EMEA growth is expected to be down high single digits.
Backlog, Orders Growth Slows
Though Vertiv’s backlog increased to $8.5 billion, growth is decelerating, now at 21% YoY versus 25% in Q1 and 30% in Q4. This is also the slowest growth for Vertiv’s backlog since Q4 2023.
TTM organic orders growth also decelerated more than 9 points sequentially, from 20% in Q1 to 11% in Q2.
Margins to Expand Through Q4, Yet FY25 Operating Margin Lowered Slightly
Margins expanded sequentially in Q2, with net margin moving into the double-digit range. Vertiv forecast Q3 and Q4 adjusted operating margin to expand sequentially, yet lowered its full-year guidance to account for tariff countermeasures and other factors.
Vertiv expects to be back to normal on adjusted operating margin by Q4, stating they will expect to see a margin of 23%+:
“Full year adjusted operating margin is projected to be approximately 20% at the midpoint, 60 basis points higher than last year despite tariff headwinds, and 50 basis points lower than prior guidance. We continue to drive margin improvement, including positive price/ cost and productivity. And implied in our guidance is fourth quarter adjusted operating margin in excess of 23%, once again, keeping us on track to attain our long-term target by 2029.”
Gross margin was 34%, down 4 points YoY but up 0.3 points QoQ.
GAAP operating margin was 16.8%, down 0.4 points YoY but up 2.5 points QoQ.
Adjusted operating margin was 18.5%, down 1.1 points YoY but up 2 points QoQ. Vertiv said the YoY decline stemmed from accelerated R&D investments, high supply chain and manufacturing transition costs stemming from tariff mitigation efforts, and operational inefficiencies from stronger than anticipated growth. Vertiv said it expects these factors to resolve by year-end.
GAAP net margin was 12.3%, up 3.2 points YoY and 4.2 points QoQ. Adjusted net margin was 14.1%, up 0.9 points YoY and 1.8 points QoQ.
For Q3 to see slight margin inflection from disappointing Q2 margins:
GAAP operating margin was guided to be 18.2% at midpoint, up 0.3 points YoY and 1.4 points QoQ.
Adjusted operating margin was guided to be 19.75% to 20.25%, or approximately flat YoY and up 1.5 points QoQ at the 20% midpoint. Vertiv said the QoQ improvement will stem from moderating operational inefficiencies.
GAAP net margin was guided to be 13.1%, up 4.6 points YoY and 0.8 points QoQ. Adjusted net margin was guided to be 14.9% at midpoint, up less than 1 point YoY and QoQ.
Q4 to see a return to higher margins:
GAAP operating margin was guided to be 22%, up 2.5 points YoY and 3.8 points QoQ.
Adjusted operating margin was guided to be 23.6% at midpoint, up 3 points YoY and 3.6 points QoQ.
GAAP net margin was guided to be 15.8% at midpoint, up 9.5 points YoY and 2.5 points QoQ. Adjusted net margin was guided to be 17.4%, up 1 point YoY and 2.5 points QoQ.
Should Q4 margin guidance materialize …
It’s important to note that if the Q4 margin guidance materializes, then Vertiv will be reporting the best margins since going public in 2020. This is visible in the adjusted operating margin chart listed above.
The proverbial “seeing the forest through the trees” is that Q2 was weaker than expected yet Vertiv’s management is guiding quite strong as we exit the year.
FY25 Margins to see impact from tariffs and operational inefficiencies:
GAAP operating margin was guided to be 18.1% at midpoint, up 1 point YoY.
Adjusted operating margin was lowered slightly to 19.7% to 20.3%, or 20% at midpoint, down half a point from its Q1 guidance for 19.75%-21.25%, or 20.5% at midpoint. This reflects the operational inefficiencies from tariff mitigation, accelerated R&D investments and capacity expansion efforts.
GAAP net margin was guided to be 12.6%, up 6.4 points YoY. Adjusted net margin was 14.8%, up 1 point YoY.
EPS growth exceeded revenue growth at 42%
While adjusted EPS growth was rather robust in Q2, growth is expected to the mid 20% level by Q4, mirroring revenue growth.
Q2 adjusted EPS of $0.95 beat estimates for $0.84, increasing 41.8% YoY. GAAP EPS of $0.83 beat estimates for $0.71.
Q3 adjusted EPS was guided at $0.94 to $1.00, or up 28% YoY at the $0.97 midpoint. This was marginally ahead of estimates for $0.96.
Q4 adjusted EPS was guided at $1.23 at midpoint, up 24.2% YoY and ahead of estimates for $1.14.
For FY25, Vertiv boosted its adjusted EPS outlook from $3.55 to $3.80 at midpoint, pointing to YoY growth of 33%. Heading into Q2’s report, FY26 growth was projected at 23%, though this may be revised higher given the improvement in net margin through year-end.
Cash Flows and Balance Sheet
Cash flow margins dipped slightly sequentially, and remain lower than last year. However, Vertiv also boosted its FY25 adjusted free cash flow guidance by $100 million this quarter.
The company offered the following commentary regarding cash flows being lumpy but directionally positive:
“And finally, on this page, adjusted free cash flow was down $60 million from last year's second quarter, primarily due to favorable trade working capital timing last year. But year-to-date adjusted free cash flow is up 24%. And as you will see in a few slides, we are raising our full year guidance by $100 million to $1.4 billion. In short, you can likely check the box on free cash flow.”
Operating cash flow was $322.9 million in Q2 for a 12.2% margin, down more than 7 points YoY and nearly 3 points QoQ.
Adjusted free cash flow was $277 million in Q2 for a 10.5% margin, down more than 6.5 points YoY and 2.5 points QoQ. For FY25, Vertiv guided for $1.375 to $1.40 billion in adjusted FCF, up from its prior view for $1.25 to $1.35 billion. This implies that Vertiv is expecting ~$859 million in adjusted FCF in 2H to reach the midpoint of its guide.
Cash and equivalents rose to $1.74 billion, while debt remained steady at $2.9 billion. Net leverage was 0.6x in Q2, versus 0.8x in Q1.
Earnings Q&A:
Weak Q2 margins set to significantly rebound by Q4
Vertiv’s margins fall into the “fair” category when compared with other AI hardware peers. Across the sector, we see a wide spectrum — Nvidia and Broadcom deliver “excellent” margins, while Dell and Supermicro are at the “weak” end. Vertiv consistently sits in the middle: not low enough to be concerning, but not high enough to command a premium valuation.
For AI hardware investors, it’s important to recognize that earnings reactions are often driven more by margins than by top-line growth—a sharp contrast to hypergrowth and software stocks, where revenue acceleration tends to be the primary catalyst.
Starting in 2023, Vertiv began a period of critical margin expansion, as the company had a negative GAAP operating margin in 2022 prior to the AI boom. The GAAP operating margin was 17% in the last quarter, up from 14.5% last quarter – yet the margins were flat from the year ago quarter and down from 19.5% in Q4.
The CEO offered more color regarding margins, stating the executional challenges were primarily in the EMEA region: “The temporary costs of the supply chain and manufacturing transition to tariff-optimized footprint are higher than we initially estimated. We're also experiencing some temporary costs to deliver a steeper growth than expected and some executional challenges in EMEA. We expect all these factors will significantly moderate during the year, and we believe they will be materially resolved by year-end.”
He also concluded the call stating: “We are vigorously addressing the temporary margin challenges. This has my and my team's full attention. I'm confident we will see constant improvement.”
Quite a few analysts asked about margins during the Q&A, showing how nervous analysts can get about this line item even when management guides for healthy margins by year-end. Of the many questions on margins, the following Q&A exchange stood out as it discusses why management has confidence margins can expand into H2.
Nicole Sheree DeBlase, Deutsche Bank
I just had a question on margin. So the guidance implies like a 10 basis points year-on-year decline in margins in the third quarter, and then a pretty big step-up to like over 200 basis points of expansion in the fourth quarter. So probably a question for David. But can we kind of walk through some of the puts and takes that give you guys confidence in that step-up?
David J. Fallon, CFO:
Yes. I think it's 2 things, Nicole. Number one is the benefit of operational leverage. And you can get our exact Q4 numbers in the appendix, but there's over $200 million increase in sales expected in Q4 versus Q3. So that definitely provides the benefits of operational leverage.
And the other bucket is simply addressing the operational inefficiencies and execution challenges that we've seen in Q2 into Q3. Once again, we believe all of these should be resolved in Q4. So it may be oversimplifying things, but I think those are the 2 buckets that drive the improvement from Q3 to Q4.”
New Reporting Metric Starting in Q4
Vertiv will no longer report on quarterly orders and backlog information, and instead will report a new metric “projected full year orders.”
The following was stated on the call: “Beginning on our Q4 and full year 2025 earnings call, we will provide projected full year orders rather than quarterly orders and backlog information. We believe this better aligns with how we run our business. We will provide updates on the full year projections quarterly as we progress through the year and as we deem necessary.”
This could create a boost to Vertiv’s stock to remove the lumpiness from quarterly reports and to also be more forward looking in terms of visibility offered to investors.
AWS announcement sent shares tumbling in early July
Recently, an announcement that AWS is pursuing their own thermal management solutions caused weak price actionin the stock.
Management used the words “co-engineering” when asked about the announcement, implying they stand to profit regardless of how each hyperscaler uniquely approaches cooling solutions.
“So I don't think there should be any scare. This is not an anomaly in the way the market works. And we are here to scale with our hyperscale customers. We are here to co-engineer with them.”
Great Lakes Acquisition
Vertiv’s is acquiring Great Lakes Data Racks & Cabinetsfor $200 million for its portfolio of high-end rack solutions, including custom racks, integrated cabinets, heavy-duty designs, and advanced cable-management systems. The acquisition will help Vertiv to deliver AI-ready solutions to hyperscalers and neoclouds. According to Vertiv, they are paying 11.5X projected 2026 EBITDA.
Perhaps most importantly, the deal will be able to increase Vertiv’s capacity quite quickly:
“With manufacturing and assembly facilities in the U.S. and Europe, we anticipate Great Lakes will enhance our ability to serve customers with speed and scale.”
The deal is expected to close in Q3. Vertiv has $1.7B in cash on its balance sheet and $2.9B in debt.
DCD Modular AI Infrastructure
In a previous analysis we pointed toward AI factories as a catalyst for Vertiv:
“Prefabricated infrastructure where the thermal management and power specialists assemble the infrastructure could become a path to faster, more successful deployments.
Per Vertiv’s comments: “Now let me share some exciting news about our projects with iGenius. Here, NVIDIA and Vertiv are delivering a fully prefabricated AI factory. This is a very important sovereign AI supercomputer and we provide everything infrastructure from liquid cooling to heat rejection, grid to chip power in a very rapidly deployable modular infrastructure. All leveraging our NVIDIA codeveloped AI reference designs. What makes this truly special is how it brings together all our core Vertiv strengths. Our ability to deliver complex solutions at scale, our deep technical expertise and our commitment to innovation. We're not just providing infrastructure, we are enabling iGenius to deploy advanced AI models in a highly regulated industry.”
Often times, CEOs use earnings calls as a marketing tactic and it can be difficult to sort through dozens of product releases to identify which ones are important catalysts. I believe the iGenius deployment will (in time) prove to be an important deployment for Vertiv – perhaps the largest catalyst ever for the company – as it transitions Vertiv from being a solutions supplier to building end-to-end modular infrastructure with substantial cross-sell opportunities. These modular AI factories also serve the massive market of sovereign AI by reducing the dependency on cloud providers such as Amazon, Google or Microsoft.”
DCD stands for data center dynamics and refers to modular infrastructure that is desirable for its rapid and efficient data center buildouts. The pre-engineered and factory-built modules offer power, cooling and IT equipment that can be deployed much faster than traditional data centers.
In this earnings report, the CEO discussed DCD modular AI infrastructure, stating: “That is certainly a trend that we see. We know that the industry needs speed, and speed in construction is paramount, full success for our customers. But also, as I said several times, this is a construction industry. And if you have to build very, very complex systems like data centers, on site, at speed, then there certainly are challenges, shortages, manpower, skilled labor shortages, and surely things can be done better in a prefabrication setup and mode.”
For AI, where compute density and thermal loads are significantly higher, modular solutions are particularly ideal as they offer optimized power distribution, advanced liquid cooling integration, and scalable “white space” that can be expanded in phases without disrupting existing operations.
Ultimately, this reduces deployment from years to months and positions Vertiv as a choice partner for the physical layer (power and cooling) for those that specialize in the logic layer (compute and networking).
Conclusion:
Given the margin improvement expected in Q4, Vertiv will likely see a second wind come H2 – especially if the top line holds a surprise or two as it did this past quarter with an 11% top line beat.
Modular AI infrastructure continues to be a primary catalyst for Vertiv, and a viable path for the company to exceed the stated CAGR of 15% to 17% through 2029 (and potentially make its way into the I/O Fund’s portfolio).
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Just when you think the controversy around Supermicro has cleared, the company offers a fiscal year guidance of $33 billion that beats consensus by 10.8% at $29.8 billion, and yet a statement in the February call has been misconstrued to lead to what the market is calling a significant miss.
The comment in the February call was the following: “With that, I am confident we will finish this fiscal year strongly with revenue in the range of $23.5 billion to $25 billion and I believe we have potential to reach $40 billion for fiscal year 2026.”
Therefore, instead of going off analyst consensus, there are reports that Supermicro missed based off that comment about six months ago. This will mark the first time in my memory that a comment two quarters prior is how the market is measuring current fiscal year guide instead of going by analyst consensus.
In addition, a report came out after hours that Supermicro servers may have been smuggled into China through Singapore and Japan. Notably, Dell serversand others have been implicated in the past as it goes without saying that if Nvidia GPUs were known to be smuggled, then servers from Nvidia’s well-known suppliers were smuggled.
Those items are less of a concern, whereas margins and cash remain the predominant concern for Supermicro. However, I suspect this time next year the troubles SMCI faces will be a distant memory as even the way the company is raising cash hints toward an underlying strength the current price action (and valuation) does not reflect.
Notably, this stock does not offer quality fundamentals, and thus it’s reserved for our Advanced tiers and we will adhere to all technical stops.
Revenue Slightly Misses:
Looking beyond the controversies, what is on deck for this quarter is that Supermicro has slightly missed on key headline numbers.
Q4 FY2025 was expected to be $6 billion at the midpoint yet came in at $5.8 billion for growth of 8% YoY and 25% QoQ.
Q1 guide of $6.5B missed consensus of $6.55B
Q1 guide for $0.46 EPS missed consensus of $0.59 EPS
If we look a bit closer, we see that technically Supermicro is guiding to grow at a larger percentage this year than they did last year at 50% for the current fiscal year compared to 47% last fiscal year.
According to management, the current quarter missed for the following reasons that are now cleared: “Shortfall stem from 2 key factors: a capital constraint that limited our ability to rapidly scale production and specification changes from a major new customer that delay revenue recognition because of new ad of some new ad features. The capital constraints will no longer an issue after we filed the fiscal year '24 10-K and large customer orders are now slated for recognition in September and December quarters. Following close collaboration to align with the customers' update future requirements.”
Segments & Geos: USA % Declines Significantly
AI platforms represented over 70% of Q4 revenues across both enterprise and cloud service provider markets. This number has not changed on a QoQ basis or YoY basis, rather has been consistently at 70%.
Enterprise reported $2.1 billion up 7% YoY and up 6% QoQ. Growth was higher on a QoQ basis last quarter up 38% QoQ. For the fiscal year, enterprise grew 38%.
OEM appliance and large data center segment revenues were $3.7 billion, representing up 2% year-over-year and up 40% quarter-over-quarter. For the fiscal year, OEM and Large DC grew 50% YoY.
Asia saw a large increase YoY at 91% compared to the United States declining 33%. Per the CFO remarks: “By geography, the U.S. represented 38% of Q4 revenues, Asia, 42%; Europe, 15%; and the rest of the world, 5%. On a year-over-year basis, U.S. revenues decreased 33%, Asia increased 91%, Europe increased 66% and Rest of World decreased 3%.”
The United States also decreased on a QoQ basis by 21% compared to APAC increasing 78%, Europe increasing 196% and ROW increasing 53%.
This may reflect orders getting pushed out as the GB200s were absent from the earnings call with a stronger focus on B200s, B300s and GB300s. The decline in the USA revenue is substantial as this geo represented the bulk of SMCI’s revenue at 61% last year compared to 38% this quarter.
Margins are Weak:
Non-GAAP gross margin of 9.6% was down 10 basis points from last quarter at 9.7% but losing any ground on gross margin for Supermicro is often penalized given how thin the margins are. The margin miss and EPS miss was from “tariff impact” according to the opening remarks.
This led to a slight EPS miss with $0.41 reported versus consensus of $0.44 EPS.
Gross margin is expected to be similar to current quarter of 9.7%. According to the CEO, their long-term gross margin is goal is 15%.
SMCI is an outlier for our portfolio as we rarely allow such thin margins to take up allocation. The Q4 adjusted operating margin was 5.3% compared to 5% last quarter. The GAAP operating margin was 4% with $228M in operating profits.
Cash and Debt:
This is the most troublesome area for Supermicro as the company must raise cash to fund operations. We closed our position at the highs last year based on this issue, given the valuation was quite high at the time (and now it’s quite low) stating cash is the Achilles heel.
This past quarter, the company completed a convertible bond offering, raising $2.3 billion in gross proceeds. This could dilute the stock by up to 7%. There is a covered call spread to the convertible bond offering, which means effective dilution may be lower than 7% if the stock goes up. On one hand, that’s nice the management team foresees the stock price going up. On the other hand, you can see they are resorting to many measures to raise cash and hedge the impact of the dilution to shareholders, meaning, this could become a vicious cycle to where Supermicro must always raise cash to fund its operations.
To further the creative financing, Supermicro also executed a $1.8M facility which allows SMCI to sell qualified accounts receivable. Again, it is interesting to see a third party has enough faith in Supermicro’s billing structure to take on the nonrecourse sale of accounts receivable, yet serves to illustrate SMCI must continuously raise cash to increase its capacity.
The company has cash of $5.2B with debt of $4.8B, for a net cash position of $412M, up from a net cash position of $44M last quarter.
GB200 NVL72s Absent from Conversation
Analysts asked about the GB200s in as many ways they could think of, and the reply was always the same … that Supermicro is not shipping these rather are preparing to ship the GB300s. Here’s one of many responses like this one:
“Nehal Sushil Chokshi
I have 2 questions. First one is, what is going to be the driver of the projected Q2 uptick to the September quarter revenue? And maybe that can also help us understand why you're guiding to no operating leverage, I believe, effectively the guidance implies about a flat operating margin from the June quarter, September quarter.
David E. Weigand
So the — in terms of the customers, we have a lot of customers that are building out a really good deployments. And so that's what gives us a guide to the first quarter. So we've been shipping AMI 355X and GB300. And so we expect that to ramp in Q1. And that's really what's giving us our guide.”
In the opening remarks, the GB200s were left out: “Notably, we were able to deliver our B200 systems with an industry-leading time to market to our customers. We are confident our B300 and GB300 solutions will deliver a similar, if not even better time to market and time to online advantages for customers, helping them accelerate their AI deployments faster than others.”
Data Center Building Block Solution
Supermicro highlighted their data center building block solution, stating it reduces time to convert data centers for high-density direct liquid cooling from 12-18 months down to 3-6 months. According to the opening remarks: “Several DCBBS components are now shipping or entering production, supporting a growing demand for high-performance, energy-efficient data center infrastructure. equally important, DCBBS meets the growing demand for a comprehensive one-stop shop solution, including software-defined infrastructure, system management, AI workload optimization networking deployment and all different levels of services.”
Management specifically called out Europe and Asia as strong demand for this product: “There are so many contracts, especially in Europe — in Europe, in East, in Asia. So they're all really a great — their AI infrastructure for their country. for their company. And we are working very closely with you there.”
Management stated that they expect DCBBS to represent 20% to 30% of revenue by this time next year:
“Q: But did you say that the data center building block solutions will be around 20% to 30% of total revenue in the September quarter?
Charles Liang
No. I mean I will be maybe next year summer. So it will ramp gradually not immediately.”
Conclusion:
If we read between the lines, Supermicro is cautioning that Nvidia’s highly anticipated Blackwell arrival is either not on time for this quarter or will not going to directly benefit SMCI until Blackwell Ultra ships in Q3. Meanwhile, Astera Labs is giving the green light on PCIe6, which indicates Nvidia’s larger systems are moving somewhere along the supply chain.
We have a setup for Supermicro that we are tracking and a stop we will follow should the stock break that stop. Until then, it’s just another wild ride with Supermicro – one that we feel is worth taking until technicals signal otherwise.
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Innodata is a company that has lumpy growth yet is also centered in the surging trend of AI data engineering, known as data-as-a-service (DaaS) which offers curated and synthetic data to augment large language models (LLMs). Notably, the company is a small cap, high risk stock.
Complex reasoning models require an expanded data set, such as dozens of foreign languages or multi-step problems within math and chemistry, for example. This is in contrast to a static data set, which often produces too many hallucinations and can be inaccurate at times. For example, if a Big Tech company only used its proprietary social data to train LLMs, this may not be broad enough to prevent hallucinations since social data is limited in its context and scope. In many cases, additional data points are sought out to improve the accuracy of the model.
In order to move toward general artificial intelligence (AGI), which is defined as AI models that think for themselves similar to a human, companies like Innodata are also tapped for their ability to augment accuracy through reinforcement learning and direct preference optimization, which utilizes subject matter experts to annotate data and to also stress-test the models for accuracy.
Overview of Innodata’s Solutions:
The problem Innodata aims to solve is to help generative AI improve its multimodal reasoning skills and to help the accuracy of agentic models. The definition of an agentic model is when the model is more proactive, has multi-layered memory for knowledge across sessions, and eventually will work across a multi-agent ecosystem with an orchestrator. Although very few enterprises use agentic models today, Big Tech and other enterprises rely on data solutions such as Innodata’s to build out the next level of complex problems that AI can solve.
The CEO stated the following on the most recent earnings call in terms of the problem their solutions are aimed to solve: “As models grow more sophisticated, their performance hinges not just on raw computational power, but also on the breadth, depth and quality of the data they are trained on. Continuous data acquisition enables the models to better understand nuance, context, and intent across languages and domains.”
Here is an overview of Innodata’s solutions and how they’re used:
Fine tuning is using curated and synthetic data to expand the list of tasks and subtasks to where Innodata offers hundreds of capabilities through its data sets, such as programming tasks (coding), content creation (emails, papers, checklists), logic and semantics (sentiment analysis), multi-modal reasoning (input from audio, visual and text for more nuanced comprehension), etc. The list is quite long as to how synthetic data can augment proprietary data.
Model scoring, risk mitigation and red-teaming refers to stress-testing AI systems for vulnerabilities. It’s a common practice in cybersecurity that Innodata provides for generative AI models to help surface any biases or inaccuracies. Model scoring helps to rank a model compared to frontier models (i.e., your model is X% less accurate than Chat-GPT 4o).
Reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF): Generative AI requires human feedback to spot inaccuracies with expert annotators to help LLMs reflect the complexity of human interactions. The company advertises that it has 5,000 subject matter experts located globally who oversee a reward model.
Direct Preference Optimization (DPO) also uses feedback but is a more refined process due to optimizing models by assigning high probability or low probability to two outcomes. This offers a faster feedback loop as the model can more quickly learn from the higher probabilities to improve accuracy.
Partnership with Nvidia’s NIM Microservices:
Although very early stage and still in beta testing, Innodata announced a new platform at Nvidia’s GTC 2025 Conference. The company is partnering with Nvidia’s NIM microservices to help facilitate LLM development across enterprises.
Nvidia’s NIM microservices is essentially an app store for LLMs, which offers foundation models, inference engines and APIs in out-of-the-box software containers for enterprises to easily build and deploy customized LLMs. Innodata helps by providing stress-testing and reinforcement learning/direct preference optimization to fine tune the models.
Meta Invests $14.3 Billion into Scale AI
Scale AI is a major competitor to Innodata that also annotates data with a global team of contractors. Scale AI was recently in the news following a $14.3 billion investment by Meta, which helps to underscore the importance of data engineering platforms and Data-as-a-Service (DaaS) for the purpose of fine-tuning large language models.
Scale AI has a particular specialty in autonomous vehicles as the company helps companies like Waymo and Tesla label objects from lidar sensors and video frames. Reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF) — discussed above – is then used to improve the quality of the response.
Following Meta’s investment, it was rumored that Google, OpenAI and Tesla are looking elsewhere to avoid strengthening Meta at the cost of their proprietary data. Although it’s speculative, the exodus of major players from Scale AI could become a tailwind for Innodata.
While Innodata’s partnership with Nvidia is a boon, one reason that Innodata may struggle to capture the business is the company is vintage with an inception date in the 1980s. The other data labeling/tooling companies are native AI companies with API-first data pipelines. To contrast, Innodata has roots in legal, healthcare, publishing and PR content whereas these other companies were founded with natural language processing (NLP) in mind.
For example, there are other private companies that stand to benefit as well, such as Labelbox, Appen (public company in Australia) and SuperAnnotate. From there, startups such as SnorkelAI also compete by relying on automated labeling, although it’s likely the workforce behind companies like Scale AI and Innodata is what's attractive to Big Tech given automation is an area where they lead.
ScaleAI is valued at $29 billion compared to Innodata’s $1.5 billion market cap with last year’s reported revenue of $870 million last year. If we assume Scale AI is at $1 billion revenue now, that would be a 29X compared to Innodata’s 6X forward sales.
Big Tech Seeking Data Quality as Differentiator
If we read between the lines on the Meta $14B investment into Scale AI, then what we see is an emphasis on data quality as a key differentiator for frontier LLMs, such as Meta’s Llama, OpenAI’s Chat-GPT or even proprietary models for Waymo and Tesla’s autonomous vehicles. While we’ve heard companies like Palantir state LLMs will become commoditized, I will stick my neck out here to say I think Alex Karp is oversimplifying the quality of LLMs.
Last month, I asked a question of Chat-GPT 4.1 about export licensing under the Trump Administration to help ascertain if a specific semiconductor was subject to export licensing due to manufacturing partners in Hong Kong and this was the response:
Pictured above: Chat-GPT4o hallucination on simple, basic facts from a query dated May 20th, 2025
Chat-GPT updates its training data about once per year with this example showing the limitations of lower quality data in terms of frequency of updates and/or limited resources for new data.
As with all technologies, we are in the hype cycle for LLMs which precedes a period of mass consolidation. Meta knows it must be competitive on data quality, and clearly, its proprietary social data is not able to produce a broad level of intelligence in order to compete with a company like Google or OpenAI when comparing recent benchmarks
Innodata’s Financials: Triple-Digit but Lumpy Growth; Anything Could Happen
Innodata is a high beta stock with a $1.5B market cap and $241M estimated for fiscal year 2025 revenue. The company reported three consecutive quarters of triple-digit topline growth in Q1 with revenue rising 120.1% YoY to $58.3 million, marginally ahead of estimates for $57.6 million. Although revenue growth slowed by over 6 percentage points sequentially, it is expected to decline even more sharply in the coming quarters.
For Q2, analyst estimates point to revenue growth decelerating nearly 50 points to the 73% range, before slowing to the low double-digits against peak growth comps. Management did not provide any quarterly guidance for Q2, though they maintained FY25 revenue growth guidance of 40% YoY, suggesting that with what management knew at the time of the earnings call, revenue growth is expected to follow this trajectory of a sharp back-half deceleration.
However, it is important to keep in mind the fluid nature of Innodata’s business, and that any new contractual agreements or expansions could have a large and/or immediate impact on revenue. For example, in FY24 Innodata had originally guided for 20% YoY revenue growth, before raising that to >40% in Q1, then >60% in Q2 and ultimately to 88% to 92% YoY by Q3. Such a dynamic occurring again this year cannot be quickly written off, given that management is upfront about current engagements and prospective discussions with Big Tech customers.
Customer Update: “Mag 7” and “Big Tech” Mentioned Repeatedly on ER Call
Management provided a handful of updates on existing Big Tech customer expansions (which includes five of the Mag 7) and discussions with prospective customers in Q1. Keep in mind, the fiscal year revenue estimates right now are for $241 million yet discussions around SOWs present a strong case for Innodata exceeding this estimate as the year plays out:
Innodata signed a second statement-of-work (SOW) with its largest customer, which as of Q4, was contributing revenue at a $135 million annualized rate, up more than 22% in two quarters on new expansions in Q4 and January.
A Big Tech customer (noted to be one of the most valuable software companies in the world) was said to have a late-stage pipeline potentially valued up to “more than $25 million of bookings this year and continued growth over the next several years.” This customer began working with Innodata in Q2 ’24 and contributed just $0.4 million in revenue in FY24.
Another Big Tech customer recently signed one expansion deal and is expected to soon sign a second expansion, worth a combined $1.3 million in potential revenue. Management said there is another opportunity with this customer worth up to $6 million, and for comparison, the customer generated just $0.2 million in FY24.
Management said they signed a deal in Q1 with “one of the most highly regarded generative AI labs” worth $0.9 million, with expansion potential worth double that figure.
To note, Innodata’s largest customer is by far its most important, as a $135 million annualized rate implies this customer is contributing nearly $34 million quarterly, or around 58% of Q1’s revenue. This is a rather significant customer concentration, in that any lost revenue from this customer would not easily be made up from others, as deal sizes touted by management in Q1 pale in comparison.
With that said, the shakeup around Scale AI and the growing importance around data engineering, plus Innodata’s partnership with Nvidia would help level out the customer concentration by attracting more large customers.
On the call, it was stated that Innodata is working on building 200 autonomous agents with its largest customer worth approximately $6 million at the onset:
“With one of our smaller big tech relationships, one that I discussed a few minutes ago, we have begun a collaboration around both AI agent data set creation and AI agent building. The work we are hoping to kick off with them this quarter will involve creating approximately 200 conversational and autonomous agents across multiple domains.”
Key Segments
Innodata’s Digital Data Solutions (DDS) segment is the primary driver of this sharp growth acceleration and improvement in profitability in FY24 and FY25. The segment handles AI data preparation, labeling and annotation, AI training and related services.
The Synodex segment transforms medical records into usable digital data for customers, while its Agility segment provides a platform for PR and communications professionals to target and distribute content to journalists and influencers globally.
DDS revenue in Q1 rose 158% YoY to $50.8 million, accounting for more than 87% of revenue. This marked the third consecutive quarter with revenue growth above 150% YoY. However, given that Innodata’s revenue is expected to decelerate sharply by Q4, it’s likely DDS is behind this as the core growth driver, and could see growth return to Q3 23’s levels.
Synodex revenue rose 7.6% YoY to $2.0 million, decelerating from 14.6% YoY growth in Q4.
Agility revenue rose 11.6% YoY to $5.5 million, decelerating from 24.9% YoY growth in Q1.
GAAP Profitable with Adjusted EBITDA Growth of 236%
Considering Innodata has a mere $58.3 million in estimated quarterly revenue, plus $241B in estimated annual revenue, the margin profile is quite impressive since most companies operate at a loss until they reach scale.
Margins weakened slightly sequentially in Q1, though the rapid ramp of DDS revenue that really accelerated in Q2 has driven margins down the line much higher on a YoY basis.
Q1 GAAP gross margin was 39.9%, down 5.3 points sequentially but up 3.5 points YoY. Adjusted gross margin was 43.2%, up 1.8 points YoY. Innodata shared that it is targeting an adjusted gross margin of 40%, with this result being above expectations.
GAAP operating margin was 14.4%, down 4.8 points sequentially but up more than 9 points YoY.
GAAP net margin was 13.4%, down 4 points sequentially but up nearly 9.7 points YoY, benefiting from the increased operating leverage driven by improving DDS profitability.
Innodata did not provide any clear guidance on Q2’s margins, though management noted that they plan to invest ~$2 million in Q2 to support the new SOW with its largest customer, which will occur ahead of associated revenue and thus impact margins.
Turning to adjusted EBITDA, management forecast YoY growth for the metric, though it is not clear to which degree, given that there was no supporting commentary. Adjusted EBITDA for FY24 was $34.6 million for a 20.3% margin, with Q1’s 21.8% margin already positioning Innodata for growth. Adjusted EBITDA was up 236% YoY (although on small numbers).
DDS adjusted EBITDA was $11.5 million for a 22.7% margin. This marks a substantial improvement from the 11.0% margin a year ago.
Synodex adjusted EBITDA was $0.4 million for a 20.8% margin, down nearly 4 points from a 24.7% margin a year ago.
Agility adjusted EBITDA was nearly $0.8 million for a 13.7% margin, down nearly 10 points from a 23.3% margin a year ago.
EPS
Despite Q1 starting off with triple-digit topline growth and a rather strong >40% guide for FY25, EPS growth is expected to be negative this year. This is primarily due to two factors: a $5.9 million income tax benefit in Q3 and strong outperformance in margins in Q4.
In Q1, Innodata reported $0.22 in GAAP EPS, ahead of estimates for $0.17 and representing growth of 633.3% YoY.
However, for Q2, analysts are currently expecting EPS of $0.11, down (50%) sequentially, before ticking higher to $0.17 in Q3. This would be a decline of nearly (67%) YoY versus $0.51 in Q3 2024, due to the income tax benefit. Q4 is not expected to bring any relief, with current estimates pointing to a (38.5%) YoY decline to $0.19.
For the entire year, Innodata is expected to report a (22.0%) YoY decline to $0.69, before rebounding 46.3% in FY26 to $1.02.
Cash and Balance Sheet
Cash flows have improved significantly as revenue ramped, allowing Innodata to add significant cash to its balance sheet through 2024. As a result, Innodata has a relatively healthy balance sheet with no debt and an undrawn $30 million credit facility.
Operating cash flow was $10.9 million for an 18.6% margin. This was lower than the 25.5% margin in the year ago quarter, with the strong print driven by a $3 million QoQ increase in deferred revenue.
Free cash flow was $8.5 million for a 14.6% margin. This was lower than the 20.5% margin from the year ago quarter due to the relatively stronger OCF.
Cash and equivalents on hand were $56.6 million, up from $46.9 million in Q4 and a substantial improvement from $19.0 million a year ago.
Debt remained zero, with Innodata still having access to its undrawn $30 million credit line should it need extra funding.
Deferred revenue was approximately flat QoQ at $8.03 million.
Cash flow is a line item to watch as the company stated they plan to re-invest OCF and this could lead to debt or stock dilution: “Accordingly, we intend to reinvest a meaningful portion of our operating cash flow into product innovation, go-to-market expansion and talent acquisition, while still delivering adjusted EBITDA above our 2024 results.”
Earnings Call:
Largest Customer to be down 5%
In the opening remarks, the CEO stated the largest customer would be down 5% going into the next quarter: “Inevitably, customer concentration can result in quarter-to-quarter volatility. For example, with our largest customer, we exited 2024 at an annualized revenue run rate of approximately $135 million. In Q1, we were running higher than this by about 5%, and in Q2, we anticipate that we could be lower by about 5%, but the customers' demand signals are updated continually and are highly dynamic.”
An analyst asked about this in more detail during the Q&A when it was stated the new statement of work with the customer will provide “additional share of wallet that we can tap into.” Management is referring to 200 autonomous agents discussed above under the customer section, yet at the onset this is worth $6 million.
Risks:
There have been short reports on the company that led to a 30% drop in share price in one day. You can read the report from Wolfpack Research here and a second short report from J Capital can be read here. These are worth a read for anyone seriously considering the stock. We utilize proper risk management in these cases, which includes a stop on the position – should we enter. We would also only buy on a breakout when technicals provide a green light.
One of the primary risks to Innodata’s revenue acceleration and growth trajectory is We’ve already seen one large customer termination with Innodata, though that was attributed to Musk’s publicized take-over of xAI (Innodata said this customer “dramatically cut spending after a significant and highly publicized management change” in 2022). There is no guarantee that customer spend with Innodata will expand beyond the scope of the current deals, though the view that a majority of the Magnificent 7 are rapidly adopting generative AI products and will spend hundreds of millions on generative AI and LLM development over the next few years bodes well for future growth, both in terms of expanding the scope of deals and landing deals with new customers.
Another risk presents itself in the volatile swings in share price that Innodata sees – as a small cap, it’s much more likely to see these substantial moves in such a brief period. For example, there have been multiple weeks and many days in which Innodata has seen moves in excess of +/- 10%. This level of volatility is not typically seen with large or mega-cap stocks and requires prudent risk management. Institutional ownership is also relatively low for a high-beta AI small cap at just 36%.
Conclusion:
The takeaway is that as LLMs continue to fiercely compete, companies like Innodata will become force extenders in the race for more accurate and reliable output. Although Innodata has many competitors, consider that Meta’s investment into Scale AI is 14X larger than its acquisition of Instagram at $1 billon, which puts into perspective the importance of data quality for Big Tech companies.
In the closing remarks, the CEO stated “we believe our business right now is on fire. The growth we're seeing year-over-year is just the beginning. What's happening now inside the Company is really like or unlike anything we've seen before.”
Investors will have to get comfortable with early-stage tech given Innodata’s new product-market fit is very early stage. Scale AI provides a decent comp in terms of the value of a strong AI data engineering company. Innodata’s solutions will be put to the test now that Scale AI customers will be unwinding their partnerships. Anything could happen. If we were to enter, it would be with a tight stop, and we would raise our stop as the stock price increases.
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Credo continues to report outstanding revenue growth, up 180% YoY in Q4 and guided to accelerate further in Q1 as management touted growing traction with hyperscalers, new design wins in qualification and strong customer forecasts driving sustained AEC growth.
GAAP margins have expanded significantly down the line with operating margin quickly approaching 20% as signs of operating leverage emerge. Cash flow margins were robust in Q4 on strong collections, while inventories surged over the past two quarters, indicating that Credo’s hypergrowth phase will likely continue for a few quarters.
Management hinted that a new DSP deal with a hyperscaler represents its largest revenue opportunity to date, with two new hyperscaler customers ramping up in FY26. Backed by these arising revenue streams, Credo guided for revenue growth of 85%+ next year, or over $800 million.
Brief Background on Credo:
Credo’s primary product line is active electric cables (AECs), while it also offers PAM4 digital signal processors (DSPs), optical transceivers, active optical cables (AOCs), and PCIe 6 retimers. Credo’s product portfolio is underpinned by its proprietary SerDes tech, which allows for comparable performance as its peers in data transmission but at a much lower cost.
AECs and active copper cables (ACCs) are challenging fiber optic networking in the two to seven meter space, as these solutions offer lower power, lower costs and at times, higher reliability over the shorter distance. AECs solve a critical issue of data loss that occurs with passive cables at longer lengths, especially in 800 Gbps/port environments with lengths longer than two to three meters. As data center network architectures look toward replacing fiber optic in some cases for short haul networking, both AEC and ACC are being evaluated.
AECs with retimers are a more expensive option compared to ACCs due to offering a cleaner signal, yet they have the additional benefit of being vendor agnostic, which is key for data center operators who are looking to upgrade as they add more racks.
Being copper-based, AECs are cheaper than fiber optics even with the cost of the retimer, and AECs consume less power due to having a small diameter. By allowing more air flow, there are fewer issues with thermal management. This is the primary catalyst for AEC growth within the data center.
In Credo’s case, for distances between two meters and seven meters, AECs are seeing heightened demand as servers scale up from eight GPUs to now 36 and 72 GPU per rack-scale AI systems, and also as clusters grow from 10,000 to 100,000 and soon million-GPU clusters.
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AEC Adoption Driven by Higher Reliability and Efficiency
For Credo, the strong growth trajectory of its AEC product line in Q4 and FY25 was driven by their higher reliability and energy efficiency, with management highlighting significant customer wins in Q4’s earnings call.
Credo expanded its AEC portfolio with the launch of its 800G HiWire ZeroFlap AECs for AI backend networks in October 2024, aiming to enable large AI clusters sized into the hundreds of thousands of GPUs. The new AECs were designed to reach seven meters with full host-to-switch connectivity, specifically for liquid cooled servers. Credo says the new AEC line saves up to 14 watts per link and up to $1,000 per GPU.
Credo says that ZeroFlap AECs now “are gaining traction as a robust rack-to-rack solution for distances up to 7 meters, offering over 100 times greater reliability than laser-based optical modules, virtually eliminating linked labs and significantly improving energy efficiency, which are both key enablers for best-in-class AI deployments.”
This increased reliability and focus on energy efficiency at the longer seven meter length have already driven a major customer win in xAI’s Colossus 100,000 GPU cluster. At that size, Credo’s ZeroFlap AECs could drive power and cost savings of up to 1400kw (~10 NVL72 racks) and $100 million.
Aside from xAI, Credo says it has a second customer ramping this year where the catalyst was “similar in the sense that their ability to move to these longer length AECs really opens the door for them to improve the reliability.” Credo is eyeing more deployment opportunities through FY27 as cluster sizes continue to increase, with AECs helping hyperscalers greatly improve density (more racks deployed for same amount of power) with a highly reliable, efficient solution.
Eyeing >100% YoY Optics Growth with 100G Optical DSPs and 800G Transceivers
While AECs take center stage for the role as the primary growth driver, Credo’s optics portfolio stands out as well. Management laid out robust triple-digit growth targets for FY26, alongside significant progress with industry-leading product deployment and major customer wins.
Credo recently announced a handful of industry-leading optics products that position it well for more customer wins and strong growth over the next two years. Credo unveiled its ultra-low power 5nm 100G optical DSP at OFC in May, which it says sets new industry-leading benchmarks for power efficiency with full DSP and linear receive optics (LRO) variants. Credo recently showcased its 3nm 200G per lane DSP, support 1.6T port speeds with leading power efficiency and signal integrity. Credo says this new solution positions it to drive the shift to 200G lane speeds over the next few years.
Credo also showcased its family of ultra-low power 800G optical modules with an industry-first power consumption of just 9W, powered by its Lark linear receive optic (LRO) tech. Credo said it “achieved error rates comparable to full DSP solutions” and attracted significant interest from hyperscalers who are prioritizing power efficiency. LRO solutions are gaining traction as they remove the DSP, reducing cost, latency and power consumption by 1-2W per module, which is significant at larger scales.
Highlighting the strength of its optics solutions, Credo secured a major full 800G DSP transceiver win with a US-based hyperscaler, with deployments commencing in fiscal 2026. Credo said that from a revenue standpoint, this win is “probably going to be the largest opportunity that we've had to-date.”
As a result, Credo CEO Bill Brennan is expecting the company to “double or even beyond double our optical revenue in fiscal '26” with accelerated growth in the years ahead. Most optical shipments currently are 50G per lane (400G) with several designs shipping, though Credo expects more traction and revenue growth from 100G per lane designs.
Brennan was also confident in Credo’s ability to drive market share gains in 100G DSPs. He explained that he feels Credo will “experience a lot of success in the 100G per lane market in the next 12 to 24 months” as full DSP and LRO variants launch simultaneously, with the expectation that Credo will be “really well positioned in that market as that develops.”
In terms of the timing for scale-up driven optics growth, Brennan said Credo has been consistent in saying designs wins will come this year with revenue ramp beginning in calendar 2026. Over the next two to five years, he believes optics and DSPs will grow “dramatically” to eventually become a >10% revenue business. Importantly, this comment suggests that optics remains <$40 million as of FY25, and the forecast for doubling or more than doubling in FY26 may only contribute approx. $40 million of an expected $370 million-plus in revenue growth.
PCIe 6, Scale-Up Seen as Growth Driver through 2027
Credo was highly positive about the transition from PCIe Gen5 to PCIe Gen6 driving growth for them in scale-up, with PCIe 6 expected to gain traction in FY26 and FY27.
Credo’s PCIe 6 AECs displayed at GTC promised the same reliability and energy benefits for scale-up networks and rack-scale architectures, while its PCIe 6 retimers showcased “superior performance and interoperability.” Management said that customer momentum for PCIe retimers is accelerating with design winds expected in 2025 and production revenue commencing in calendar 2026. On the AEC front, management said there were “new design wins in qualification” amidst growing traction amongst hyperscalers, positioning them for sustained strong AEC revenue growth.
For scale-up Ethernet, UALink or Nvidia’s new NVLink Fusion, Credo said that these networking standards create a large market for PCIe, shifting from Gen5 to Gen6. CEO Bill Brennan said that these will all be 224G series, with Credo aiming to “establish revenue and really increase that revenue base in the PCIe Gen5 and Gen6 timeframe. And then after that, we're going to be flexible in a sense of offering Gen7” where Credo’s AECs will be universal to Ethernet, UALink or NVLink Fusion.
Financials
Revenue Continues to Accelerate to 218% in Q1
Credo reported 179.7% YoY and 25.9% QoQ growth to $170.0 million in revenue in Q4, beating the consensus estimate for $159.6 million. Revenue growth has sharply accelerated throughout the fiscal year, up from the 60% to 70% level in 1H to high triple digits in 2H.
AEC maintained a “steep growth trajectory” with revenue reaching another record in the quarter, growing double-digits sequentially. Evidence of the rapid ramp of AEC and Credo’s other optic and retimer products, quarterly revenue has nearly tripled since the start of the fiscal year at $59.7 million.
For Q1, Credo guided to $185 million to $195 million in revenue, pointing to a nearly 40 point sequential acceleration to 218% YoY growth at midpoint. This was also 17% above consensus estimates for $162.4 million heading into the report.
Revenue growth estimates have moved sharply higher since February. Q1’s growth estimate just four months ago was 133.4%, and is now nearly 85 points higher, while Q2’s growth estimate has risen 74 points from 100.9%.
For fiscal 2025, Credo reported a 122 point acceleration to 126.3% YoY growth, with revenue of $436.8 million. For fiscal 2026, Credo guided for revenue to exceed $800 million, for growth in excess of 85% YoY, while analysts are now expecting $804.1 million.
What’s important to note here is that analyst growth expectations are much lower than what Credo has been reporting. For fiscal 2026, analysts are expecting sequential growth of 3% to 4% each quarter to reach the $804 million estimate. In Q4, Credo had initially guided for QoQ growth of 19% and reported 26%, while for Q1, Credo has guided for 12% QoQ growth. Assuming Credo can maintain QoQ growth >7% through FY26 as new hyperscalers begin to ramp, these expectations will likely materialize as too low. However, it’s important to caution that Credo is coming up on difficult comps in Q3 and Q4 and those comps elevate risk as it can be a point where hypergrowth companies often fail to impress.
Credo reported a significant 80 point sequential acceleration in product revenue growth to 303.3% YoY in Q4, with revenue of $164.5 million. Credo said AEC products are gaining traction in rack-to-rack distances up to 7 meters, with xAI being the most successful customer at that distance with a second customer ramping this year.
For optics, Credo noted that it reached its revenue targets and ended FY on strong momentum with an expanding customer base. As previously mentioned, Credo is targeting 100%+ optics revenue growth in FY26.
In retimers, Credo said growth was fueled by 50G and 100G per lane Ethernet products, with customer momentum accelerating. Credo added that for fiscal 2026, they anticipate strong growth in retimers driven by the shift to 100G per lane solutions.
Product Engineering Service revenue declined (60%) YoY and (50%) QoQ to $1.3 million.
IP License revenue declined (75%) YoY but rebounded 41% QoQ to $4.2 million.
Note on Customer Concentration
Moving forward, Credo expects to diversify its customer base, eyeing up to five >10% customers in FY26, up from three in FY25. Credo’s largest customer, rumored to be Microsoft, accounted for 61% of revenue in Q4.
Credo also has two new hyperscalers ramping in 2H 26, with the expectation that both could become >10% customers in the long-term, though management offered no timeline for that. CEO Bill Brennan said the first customer is expected to ramp in mid-year, sooner than expected, with the other looking to be later in the second half. Should Credo be able to ramp these two quickly, it could provide additional revenue and growth as tough comps roll around.
Margins Shine with 40% Adjusted Operating Margin in FY26
Credo has excelled on the margin front, driving strong expansion in margins in 2H and in fiscal 2025 despite being solidly in its hypergrowth phase, a difficult feat to accomplish.
For Q4:
GAAP gross margin was 67.2% for an expansion of 2.4 points YoY and 3.6 points QoQ. Adjusted gross margin was 67.4%. For Q1, Credo guided for GAAP gross margin of 63.4% to 65.4%, and adjusted gross margin of 64% to 66%.
GAAP operating margin was 19.9%, well ahead of guidance for 17.5%. This marked an exceptional ~33 point improvement from (13%) last year, and its second consecutive quarter above 19%. Adjusted operating margin was 36.8%, up more than 24 points YoY and more than 5 points QoQ. For Q1, Credo’s operating expense forecast implies a GAAP operating margin of 17.4%, and an adjusted operating margin of 36.1% at midpoint.
GAAP net margin was 21.5%, up more than 38 points YoY and down marginally QoQ. Adjusted net margin was 38.4%, up 19 points YoY and nearly 5 points QoQ.
For fiscal 2025:
GAAP gross margin expanded less than 3 points to 64.8%, while adjusted gross margin expanded 2.5 points to 65.0%.
However, Credo drove significant improvement to operating margins with prudent cost management. GAAP operating margin inflected to positive territory at 8.5%, up more than 27 points YoY. Adjusted operating margin expanded 25 points to 26.4%. For fiscal 2026, management shared that they are targeting adjusted operating margin of 40%, a 14 point YoY expansion.
GAAP net margin was 11.9%, up nearly 27 points YoY. Adjusted net margin was 29.7%, up 22 points YoY.
EPS Growth Expected to be Triple Digit in FY26
Credo has reported robust EPS growth driven by its margin strength, with fiscal 2025’s adjusted EPS of $0.70 increasing from just $0.08 in the prior year. Credo generated the bulk of this EPS in H2 as revenue and margins surged,
Adjusted EPS of $0.35 in Q4 beat estimates by 29.6%, representing growth of 400% YoY. Growth is forecast to accelerate to 782% in Q1 to $0.35 on a low comp, before slowing to 17% YoY by Q4 FY26 against a much tougher comp.
For FY26, Credo is expected to report nearly 111% YoY growth to $1.42 in adjusted EPS, driven by strong topline growth and a projected 14 point expansion in adjusted operating margin.
Free Cash Flow Margin of 32%, But Likely Will be Lower in FY26
Credo’s cash flow margins surged on strong collections, while its balance sheet remained robust with debt still at zero.
Operating cash flow was $57.8 million in Q4, up more than $53 million QoQ on higher “cash collection driven by the significant sequential product ramp.” OCF margin was 34% in the quarter, compared to 3.1% last quarter and 6.8% a year ago. For FY25, operating cash flow was $65.1 million, for a margin of 14.9%. This decreased from a 17% margin in FY24 as cash flow growth of 99% YoY lagged revenue growth by 27 points.
Free cash flow was $54.2 million in Q4, for a 31.9% margin. For FY25, free cash flow was $29 million, for a 6.6% margin, down from an 8.9% margin last year on higher capex. Credo mentioned that it expects capex to double YoY in FY26 on upcoming 3nm product tape-outs, which may pressure FCF through the year.
Cash and equivalents totaled $431.3 million, while debt remained zero.
Inventories were $90.0 million, up more than 69% QoQ and up 148% in two quarters. This implies Credo is preparing for its new products and new hyperscalers to ramp and hypergrowth to continue.
Tariff Impacts Downplayed
Importantly, despite its China exposure, management downplayed tariff impacts. China specifically accounted for 18.2% of revenue through Q3, but when including Hong Kong, China-related exposure is 75.4%, due to Hong Kong revenue nearly tripling YoY through Q3 to $152.7 million. Credo noted that geographic revenue represents shipment destination or location of contracting entity, which could be different from customers’ principal offices.
In the Q4 call, Needham’s Quinn Bolton pointed out that Credo’s AEC manufacturing partners BizLink and FoxLink are both located in China, questioning management about how tariffs could impact margins.
CFO Dan Fleming said Credo does not expect a “significant tariff risk” to gross margins and it is not the cause of Q1’s sequential guide down. CEO Bill Brennan was more vague on tariffs, saying Credo was “monitoring the situation closely and we're working very closely with our customers, and ultimately, we're trying to be as flexible as we can,” and in the worst case, Credo “could be out of one geographic location and into another” within months.
The more important question for Credo here is if it can accelerate and maintain strong revenue growth while potentially onshoring manufacturing over the next few years to mitigate future tariff risks.
Conclusion
It’s hard to nitpick much in Credo’s Q4 report aside from China revenue, which likely remained elevated given the geographic mix as of Q3. Management highlighted two additional hyperscalers ramping in mid and late-FY26, providing tailwinds to growth as these new projects ramp.
Analysts are only projecting 3% to 4% sequential growth through FY26, which seems low given that Credo guided for double-digit sequential growth in Q1 while highlighting those new customers ramping and more opportunities in optics as FY26 progresses.
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TSS Inc. is an AI systems integrator partnered with a large U.S.-based OEM generating 99% of their 2024 revenue, presumably Dell Technologies for AI-enabled rack construction and integration.
TSSI’s revenue grew 523% to $99 million and adjusted EBTIDA grew 11X from $0.48 million to $5.2 million. Management's outlook indicates H1 2025 revenue will exceed H2 2024, with projected 50%+ year-over-year growth in Adjusted EBITDA for 2025.
TSSI stock surged from $0.24 to $14.49 in just over a year as it uplisted to the NASDAQ. The stock then cratered to as low as $6.24 during the tariff rout. Following its earnings report last week, the stock popped 70% — helping to illustrate the $300M market cap stock can be a wild ride.
TSSI more than doubled its headcount in 2024 and is doubling the size of its factory and headquarters as it moves into a 212,793-square-foot building in Q1 2025 to handle the extra capacity needed for its multi-year contract with its OEM partner (Dell Technologies) with guaranteed minimums.
There is speculation that TSSI is working on Elon Musk’s xAI Colossus supercomputer project through Dell Technologies, but the company won’t comment for the sake of confidentiality.
RISK: TSSI stock has a tiny 13 million share float and 25 million shares outstanding, which is at a high risk of material dilution as the company filed a $150 million shelf registration on January 7, 2025.
RISK: TSSI has no analyst coverage and 11.08% institutional ownership as of March 27, 2025,
RISK: Similar to crypto, TSSI requires technical analysis to be at the forefront of all buying and selling decisions. This stock is for advanced day traders who are comfortable with managing stocks daily due to high customer concentration and other notable risks.
The name TSS is an acronym for Total Site Solutions, which describes the nature of their business. The Texas-based distributor/reseller provides on-site installation, integration, deployment and confirmation services for data centers. Currently, the company is the partner of choice for Dell’s Integrated Rack Scalable Solutions business (IRSS).
TSS is situated in the sweet spot of the AI boom, helping customers build out their AI infrastructure. As Blackwell begins to ship in 2025, the complexity of the systems means that OEM companies like Dell and large AI companies like xAI will need assistance in integrating server racks, which includes sourcing components, assembling and integrating the racks, making sure the power needs are well balanced between liquid cooling and air cooling, and lastly, testing these systems and providing site surveys. All of this falls right into TSS's wheelhouse.
Company Background and Strategic Transformation (2019–Present)
Historically TSSI provided various data center solutions (integration, facilities management, and procurement of IT hardware), but they struggled to grow in any meaningful way. Gross profits increased from $7.21M in 2016 to $8.91M by 2022. The stock was around $.30 per share starting 2024 and had barely changed price since 2016.
In late 2022, TSSI began a major transition as Darryll Dewan became CEO and immediately focused on the high-value systems integration business. He was formerly a VP of global sales and marketing at Dell. Gross profits surged, with each quarter of 2024 seeing gross profit growth of 58.1%, 40.7%, 178.0%, and 122.9% YoY.
By the end of 2024 revenues reached $148M (up 172% YoY), gross profits reached $22M (up 100% YoY) and net income was $6M (versus essentially breakeven in 2023), all marking record highs for the company.
On November 14th 2024 TSSI announced a record 3Q and a multi-year agreement with their only customer, Dell. To support the multi-year agreement and Dell’s end market demand for AI servers, TSSI doubled its production footprint – relocating from its ~105,000 sq ft Round Rock facility to a new ~212,793 sq ft state-of-the-art integration center in Georgetown, TX (a 103% increase in space). Part of the agreement with Dell effectively guarantees that TSSI will at a minimum break even on the new expansion investment.
The new site offers a massive upgrade in power and cooling infrastructure to handle next-generation racks that will consume up to 6x more power than prior generations. TSSI invested ~$25–30 M in this build-out to future-proof its operations with liquid cooling test stations, heavy-duty flooring and lifts, and redundant power – all aimed at meeting the demands of AI racks at scale.
Management expects initial production in the new Georgetown facility by April 2025 and full production capacity by June 2025. The challenge and opportunity now will be scaling efficiently and executing to maintain their competitive position.
Due to the AI-fueled transformation TSSI underwent last year, the stock surged over 5000% from Jan 1st 2024 at $0.30 per share through its peak on Jan 23rd, 2025 at $15.22 per share before falling to $6.24 in April.
Background on Dell’s Rack Scale Solutions
Dell’s Integrated Rack Scale Solutions (IRSS) multi-year agreement essentially makes TSSI an extension of Dell’s manufacturing operations for AI servers. This is the primary driver to TSSI’s remarkable gross profit inflection in 2024. Thus, it is important to look more closely at TSSI's 99% customer.
Dell customers include tier 2 CSP’s like CoreWeave or Denvr Dataworks, the federal government, and large enterprises looking to build out on-prem data centers. Dell is not exposed to the traditional hyperscalers and so the growth forecast is not as correlated to hyperscale capex – although this could change and likely will given the rumors that Dell is working with xAI and also considering Super Micro may struggle to raise cash to quickly increase capacity (whereas Dell has operated at scale for decades).
Hyperscalers tend to do business for more customized AI server solutions rather than the turnkey solutions that Dell provides. Hyperscale vendors include companies like Taiwanese-based Quanta Computer or Wistron affiliate Wiwynn. However, it is interesting to consider the potential positive impact that tariffs may have on where hyperscalers source their AI servers going forward.
We still think that on-prem, tier-2 CSP’s and the federal government will drive a significant growth inflection for Dell’s AI server business in the near-term and durably grow for the foreseeable future. Dell’s calendar 2025 sales run rate is already trending to 50% YoY growth and 2x’d sequentially throughout FY2025. As such Dell’s AI server revenue could reach $20–30B by 2027, a ~40% CAGR from 2024 ($9B in AI server related sales).
While this multi-year agreement significantly reduces the uncertainty of TSSI’s future profits and revenue, the agreement can be terminated for convenience, meaning any party can opt out provided with 180 days written notice. Furthermore, if Dell terminates, Dell is no longer obligated to provide the minimum monthly volumes after the 180-day notice period, but they remain financially obligated to cover some of the costs associated with the Georgetown facility investment. In our view, the Dell agreement also comes with other limitations.
For one, it is unlikely that TSSI will have much negotiating leverage to increase prices. While they are investing in a new and upgraded facility, the reported $25-$30 million investment is a rounding error for companies like Dell or other large VAR’s/Distributors; hardly considered a barrier to entry given the cost and caliber of labor needed to assemble servers.
At the expiration of the multi-year agreement, there is a chance Dell does not renew or goes with another vendor. The investment provides TSSI some near-term advantages, yet the competitive positioning of TSSI is minimal.
SNX located in Taiwan is a significant competitor, for example, with $58.5 billion in annual revenue. The Hyve business has a large, global footprint that competes with TSSI. Perhaps Dell initiated an investment in TSSI to further localize systems integrations and procurement well ahead of tariffs (time will tell).
Dell to See Calendar Year H2 2025 Ramp:
The IOF Fund article, “Dell Q4: Projects $15 billion in AI shipments this year”, Dell Q4: Projects $15 billion in AI shipments this year”, noted that Dell’s FQ1 2026 (ending May 2, 2025) revenue guidance missed consensus analyst estimates by 3% and EPS guidance of $1.65 missed analyst estimates for $1.78. In its FQ4 2025 (ending January 31, 2025 calendar year), Dell shipped $2.1 billion in AI servers (down 28% QoQ), with orders at $1.7 billion (down 53% QoQ) and a backlog of $4.1 billion.
Management guided AI shipments of $15 billion in FY F2026 as AI server backlog doubled to $9 billion in FQ4, primarily driven by recent deals, including xAI. Management’s $15 billion FY F2026 shipments guidance implies the NVL delays will make it a second-half story for AI ramp-up:
“Where Dell and Super Micro may both be seeing lower growth than expected likely goes back to the delivery of key Nvidia systems, where the larger systems lead to higher revenue (and you’re aware by now these were delayed by “couple months”). It’s also perhaps due to Nvidia’s partnership with Foxconn, who has seen more news lately than peers Dell and Supermicro in terms of shipping Blackwell systems. According to a news report from Economic Daily the GB200 was shipped by Foxconn in small quantities at the end of Dec and is expected to be shipped in large quantities at the end of January.”were delayed by “couple months”). It’s also perhaps due to Nvidia’s partnership with Foxconn, who has seen more news lately than peers Dell and Supermicro in terms of shipping Blackwell systems. According to a news report from Economic Daily the GB200 was shipped by Foxconn in small quantities at the end of Dec and is expected to be shipped in large quantities at the end of January.”
Across the board, key Nvidia suppliers like Dell should see a strong ramp into the second half of the year, with this flowing down to TSSI, especially as projects ramp in size (such as xAI’s Colossus).
Elon Musk’s xAI Supercomputer Project
TSS CEO Darryll Dewan, formerly VP of Global Sales and Field Marketing at Dell from 2012 to 2022, commented in the Q2 2024 conference call, “Demand increased in Q2, and we began delivering complex AI integration solutions on time, and I want to stress, on time, including the first stage of a highly publicized program. That initial program began in June and is being carried out into Q3 [2024]. As a result, we finished a quarter with a record run rate of rack integration revenue.” Dewan stated that the volume ramp they had been anticipating was underway, and its Q2 results were a harbinger of things to come. Dewan also would not confirm during the Q&A session when asked directly if xAI was one of their projects.
The “highly publicized program” is speculated to be Elon Musk’s xAI supercomputer “Colossus” project. The xAI data center houses 100,000 GPUs comprised of over 1,500 racks and received approval for 150MW of power, enabling all GPUs to run concurrently.
Dell Technologies is Involved in Assembling Half of xAI’s Racks
Musk already revealed in June that Dell Technologies is assembling half of the racks going into the supercomputer project and Super Micro Computer would also be involved. It's been speculated Elon Musk shifted $6 billion in AI server orders for xAI to Dell Technologies and away from Super Micro Computer due to their accounting issues. This trickles down to TSS.
Musk had also announced the expansion of Colossus to 200,000 GPUs in October, and there is growing speculation at the moment that xAI is currently exploring a fundraise of tens of billions of dollars for the buildout of “Colossus 2’, which is rumored to include as many as 1 million GPUs, or 10x the size of the original Colossus supercomputer. In February, it was rumored that Dell had won a $5 billion AI server deal with xAI for Nvidia’s GB200 platform, though it is unclear whether this is for Colossus or Colossus 2.
TSS’s Q3 2024 is assumed to have contained a whole quarter’s worth of xAI business, which could be a sign of things to come. As Dell’s AI Factory server business ramps up, so does TSS’s business, as evidenced by Dewan’s statement, “Volume expectations are dependent on sales execution by our OEM partner, but our partner has shown great confidence in TSS by committing to help to smooth what otherwise could be a feast or famine business.”
Upgraded Headquarters to New Site:
Similar to other AI-driven companies, TSS insists it does not have demand issues. Rather, it's a question of how quickly capacity can be added, with TSS upgrading its facilities for AI rack integration services. TSSI expects the new facility to reach full production capacity in June 2025.
On January 5, 2025, TSS announced it signed a long-term lease for a larger facility with 212,793 square feet, essentially doubling its earlier space, which was 105,000 square feet. TSS is moving its headquarters to the new factory located in Georgetown Logistics Park in Georgetown, Texas, which will be online in Q1 2025. In the six months leading up to its August 14, 2024, conference call, CEO Dewan confirmed they have more than doubled their headcount.
The company has stated site plans call for a $25 million to $30 million investment for improvements to bring additional power to the building which will provide greatly expanded cooling capacity for its rack testing and validation stations. It will triple the capacity to test and validate direct liquid-cooled racks in addition to traditional air-cooled racks. There is no doubt the industry is migrating to liquid-cooled rack technology.
CEO Dewan commented, "Continuing our rapid growth trajectory was centered around two key drivers: signing a long-term agreement with our primary customer, which we completed and announced in October, and building capacity to deliver the demand driven by AI infrastructure needs in the market. Our new facility more than doubles our square footage and positions TSS to continue our rapid growth. We are beginning the required fit-out immediately and expect to be operational in the new building in the first quarter of 2025." Management updated in Q1 that the buildout was progressing according to its plan, and that the built-out capacity was higher than current demand, allowing them to scale higher in the future.
When asked if capacity is a limiting factor, the management team stated they “…have the capacity to grow 10X” and “so, the timeline, a couple of years may be before we start to get a little tight.” That is music to an investor’s ears, yet power requirements remain a constraint (and perhaps a tailwind for TSSI).
The Role TSSI Plays in Increased Power Consumption of AI Data Centers
The new facility building was originally planned for 4.5 MW but will now begin with 6 MW and 15 MW by early summer, and 40 MW over time. The 15 MW timeline for early summer was reiterated in Q1, with management noting this would be ~6x their current facility in Red Rock. Just as with upgrading the power, the cooling situation also had to be upgraded. CEO Daryll Dewan said this in their Q4 2024 conference call.
“Cooling is in a similar situation. When we began the fit-out of our facility, it was anticipated we would integrate a mix of chilled air and direct liquid-cooled technology. However, the adoption of emerging chip families so quickly has resulted in an accelerated shift to direct liquid-cooled. This impacts everything from our chiller capacity to the diameter of the pipes coming into the facility and distributing water within the facility. And again, this rethinking has all occurred in weeks.”
AI is causing an unprecedented surge in power density at data centers with current AI racks pushing 80 kW, moving to 120 to 150 kW, and eventually 200 kW in the next few years. The I/O Fund has covered the generational leap in power consumption in our blog article, ”AI Power Consumption: Rapidly Becoming Mission-CriticalAI Power Consumption: Rapidly Becoming Mission-Critical.”
Rapid increases in power requirements not only create potential failures and raise costs but there is also the challenge of increasing compute density in data centers. TSS is positioned to help customers make nimble, on-the-fly architecture changes, including cooling options, thanks to its rapid testing capabilities, which can narrow configuration options. CEO Dewan stated in its Q2 2024 conference call, “But importantly, the next generation of racks will consume up to 6x more power than those being produced today.”
Note on Modular Data Centers:
Modular data center revenue grew 13% in 2024. In addition to integrating a combination of air-cooled and liquid-cooled racks, TSS has also configured and deployed over 350 modular data centers (MDCs), which are pre-fabricated and scalable portable data centers. Due to the long lead times to build and deliver specialized data centers, the demand for MDCs is expected to grow as AI adoption grows. These carry gross margins north of 50% and grew 13% YoY in 2024, as it’s a predictable revenue stream.
Here is what was stated in the earnings call:
“We're also very excited about some of the conversations we're having about different design points on the modular unit. I'd like to go into a little bit more detail, but I don't think it'd be appropriate. But I think where we can provide an AI solution to an enterprise to deploy a certain amount of power cheaper, better, faster than their alternative. And that alternative could be a co-lo, could be a hyperscaler, could be expanding their own existing data center space.”
Financials Overview: Revenues Accelerate in Q1
Q1 revenue nearly broke into the triple-digits as it accelerated significantly from Q4’s 105% YoY growth to 523% YoY growth. This was driven primarily by Procurement revenue, which rose nearly 7x YoY, while management stated that there was incremental contributions from AI rack integration services. This is only the third full quarter of contribution from AI rack integration services after commencing this in June 2024.
While TSSI did not provide a guide for Q2, management stated that they expected 1H 2025 revenue to outpace 2H 2024, where they generated just over $120 million in revenue. As it stands, Q2 would need to have just $22 million in revenue to meet that forecast, though underlying business momentum suggests that is far too low.
Key Segments
Here’s how TSSI’s revenue by segment looks, with the AI rack-driven System Integration segment beginning to perk up though Procurement revenues drive the bulk of TSSI’s revenue.
Procurement Services Revenue Surges 676%
This segment consists of sourcing and selling third-party hardware, software, and services to customers – effectively acting as a value-added reseller (VAR) or distributor. It is TSSI’s largest segment by revenue but lowest by margin. It is a very lumpy business due to seasonal spending trends by the federal government being 2H weighted, and not expected to be a major profitability driver for TSSI due to its thin margin profile. Management sees Procurement as a strategically important complement to Systems Integrations, as deals “often bundle or precede integration projects.”
Procurement is uniquely impacted by how deals are recognized, either as gross or net: a gross deal occurs when TSS takes ownership of the hardware as they transform the product and record the gross value of the transactions as well as the gross cost of the goods, resulting in higher gross revenue but lower gross margins between 3% to 4%. A net deal is when TSS acts only as an agent in buying and selling the product, as they only record the agency fee, resulting in a 100% margin. TSSI added that there was also a higher mix of gross deals in the quarter, which weighed on margins.
Procurement revenue accounted for more than 91% of revenue in Q1, as it surged 676% YoY to $90.2 million, aligning with management’s Q4 projection that revenue would remain elevated for 1 to 3 quarters. This was driven by increased purchases by the federal government, as well as a few individually large sales to commercial enterprises in the quarter to support AI workloads. Additionally, some, not all, of Procurement revenue flows through to Systems Integration as it relates to components needed for AI and non-AI server racks.
Systems Integration Revenue Ramping
Systems Integration (SI): This is TSSI’s flagship segment and growth engine, encompassing the design, assembly, and testing of integrated technology solutions – most notably high-performance computing racks for AI and other advanced workloads. This business involves taking servers, GPUs, networking gear, power/cooling components, and software, and building turnkey rack systems to customer specifications. It is a project-based, engineering-intensive service and carries higher margins. This segment functions similarly to a company like Super Micro in that TSS assembles servers and server racks as a vendor.
The higher-margin, AI rack focused System Integration segment is beginning to see growth ramp in the third quarter of AI rack integrations, operating currently at a ~$30 million annual run rate. This builds on strong growth from 2024, which saw segment gross profit rise 480% YoY on a 157% YoY increase in revenue.
Q1 revenue increased 252% YoY to $7.5 million, its third consecutive quarter of >200% YoY growth driven by AI rack integrations. TSSI says that it receives both fixed monthly fees as agreed upon in the multi-year agreement, as well as “payments that scale depending on the volume of AI racks integrated and for which we are prepared to integrate.” TSSI’s order pipeline from Dell remains “extremely robust.”
For the non-AI rack integration side, TSSI noted in the 10-Q that it may be impacted by supply chain issues or lulls in demand, impacting revenue as it waits for delivery of certain required components. TSSI said that its vendors and partners expect “supply-chain issues to continue for at least the next several quarters, though they appear to be improving in general.”
Management said in Q1’s call that they “expect sustained high growth in this area as customers ramp-up investments to meet evolving compute demands over the coming quarters and years,” with this segment expected to become the primary growth driver.
According to an internal model, by the end of 2027, SI could be roughly 63% of total gross profits, up from 15% of total gross profits in 2023. As a precaution, we’ve modeled 62M in revenue and 30M in gross profits in 2027 for the SI segment. This is at the low end of the 2-4x capacity comment and assuming a 1:1 relationship between volume and sales, but this forecast could have significant variability due to high customer concentration.
In this internal forecast, there is a degree of conservatism given the project-based nature of this business and the range management provided of 2-4x 2024 peak volume capacity. Dell is guaranteeing at least as much volume as TSSI’s peak quarterly run-rate in 2024 for the SI segment. For context, TSSI’s peak in 2024 was around Q4 when SI revenue hit $7.9M. Assuming that there is a 1:1 relationship between volumes and revenues, this could translate to a baseline of $31M in annual systems integration sales and $13M gross profits which is based on the 2H2024 run-rate.
As such, the incremental sales potential for SI is $62M–$124M in sales and $26M–$52M gross profits. Again, this is with what we know today, yet carries significant variability due to reliance on one OEM.
Facility Management Revenue Declines
This segment involves data center facilities services – including maintenance contracts, on-site support, and deploying modular data centers. It provides a steady, recurring revenue stream, and while it has high gross margins, it is not going to be the real driver of TSSI’s profitability inflection, which squarely falls onto the SI segment. It has grown in the 10% revenue range over the last several years. Modular data centers are important and they will grow in volume, but this segment is more of an indirect beneficiary of the AI boom. Furthermore. TSSI is not constructing these data centers, but rather maintaining them, fixing them, and monitoring them.
Facility management revenue declined (40%) YoY to $1.3 million, with management noting they are currently optimizing this unit to focus on high-growth opportunities. Facility management had grown just 13% YoY in FY24, a far cry from System Integrations’ 157% growth and Procurement’s 205% growth.
Management added that they “anticipate more robust growth over the next 12 to 18 months” as medium and large enterprise customers “increasingly adopt modular data centers as a cost-effective solution to leverage AI technologies.” For 2025, we estimate $8.7 M (+9% YoY), assuming TSSI continues to win small expansions or projects. Management mentioned a couple of projects drove 46% growth in Q2 2024 facilities revenue, but on a normalized basis, mid-single digits is more in-line with their historical multi-year rate of growth.
Margins Weighed Down by Procurement Growth
TSSI has noted previously that margins are likely to fluctuate quarter-to-quarter as revenue mix shifts, and Q1’s heavy concentration of Procurement revenue with higher mix of gross deals weighed on gross margin, though operating margin felt less of an impact. This is because a portion of Procurement revenue flows through to the Integration segment, which carries far higher margins.
Q1’s gross margin was 9.3% as a result of this mix shift, down more than 5 points sequentially and nearly 8 points YoY.
Procurement GAAP gross margin was 7.8%, flat YoY; on a non-GAAP basis, which strips out gross vs net deals, gross margin was 6.6%, up 2 points YoY.
Systems Integration gross margin was 22%, down 6 points YoY due to a $0.8 million rent expense for the new Georgetown facility; stripping out this noncash rent impact, gross margin was 32%. Management said that they expect gross margins in the segment to improve in the last three quarters in FY25.
Facility management gross margin was 41%, down 15 points YoY on lower revenue.
Q1’s operating margin was 4.2%, down only 1.3 points QoQ and up 2.6 points YoY. Should Systems Integration begin to grow its share of revenue with margins growing, TSSI should theoretically see some gross and operating margin expansion as the year progresses.
GAAP EPS Expanding
Q1’s GAAP earnings were $0.12 per share, surpassing Q3’s earnings of $0.10 despite a thinner margin profile this quarter. This was a notable improvement from the break-even quarter last Q1.
There’s also a notable inflection in earnings power since the start of AI rack integrations in June 2024, with EPS over the past three quarters of $0.30, up 10x from $0.03 in the comparable period last year.
Cash and Balance Sheet
Cash flows have been quite variable, with Q3 2024 and Q1 2025 seeing large positive operating cash flow while Q4 saw a large outflow.
Operating cash flow was $20.6 million in Q1, up nearly 8x YoY and a stark contrast to the ($21.6) million outflow in Q4 2024. OCF margin was 20.9%, up more than 4 points from 16.7% a year ago.
Free cash flow was $5.8 million, up ~2.2x YoY and again a stark contrast to the ($28.4) million from Q4. FCF margin was 5.9%, down from 16.4% a year ago due to the rapid revenue growth.
Adjusted EBITDA was $5.2 million for a 5.3% margin in Q1, up from $0.5 million for a 3% margin in the year ago quarter. Management reiterated its view for >50% growth in adjusted EBITDA for 2025, signaling they expect at least $15.3 million this year.
Cash and equivalents totaled $27.3 million, while debt was $8.2 million. Debt is likely to be higher next quarter as TSSI said it drew down the remaining $11.3 million on its construction loan just prior to Q1’s call.
Factoring Receivables is an Expensive Payday Loan Approach to Stabilize Cash Flow
TSSI sells Dell’s invoices/receivables to a third-party factoring company at a slight discount and interest in exchange for immediate cash, similar to a payday loan. This is a common strategy to improve cash flow with large clients, the largest client in this case, with longer payment terms. It’s an expensive way to get paid sooner. TSSI sells Dell’s invoices to the factoring company at a small discount, and the factoring company immediately wires over cash to TSSI. Interest is applied to the wired funds until Dell pays off the invoice with the factoring company, which then wires the remaining balance back to TSSI.
In Q3, the net interest expense was exclusively the cost of factoring Dell’s accounts receivables, which has an effective interest rate of 6%, a lower rate than a bank loan. In Q4, factoring interest expense was $721,000, before more than doubling QoQ to $1.5 million in Q1. This continues to illustrate how vital Dell is to TSS’s future and the leverage it holds.
Conclusion
TSSI’s tie-ins with Dell and ramping AI server rack integrations as more production capacity comes online support strong revenue growth, and the company remains profitable despite high Procurement mix weighing on margins. While AI servers have the potential to drive meaningful growth for TSSI, the small float and market cap lead to increased volatility, requiring active management.
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Vertiv posted a double-beat in Q1 with organic revenue up 25% YoY. The primary key metric of backlog was up $1.6 billion YoY and up 10% since Q4. Perhaps most importantly, backlog of $7.9 billion up from $7.2 billion last quarter hints toward Vertiv reaching an inflection point as Q4 backlog had declined QoQ. The trailing twelve month (TTM) organic orders growth was up 20% YoY and up 21% sequentially from Q4. This is down from 30% YoY growth last quarter, yet the QoQ growth seems to also hint Vertiv could be ramping from here on supplying thermal management for AI systems. Book-to-bill ratio of 1.4X is another key metric that hints Vertiv is resuming AI orders as it indicates the company’s backlog is growing with more orders coming in.
As a reminder, Vertiv reported a muted earnings report last quarter with nearly all of these key metrics declining QoQ. For example, book-to-bill ratio was 1X whereas it had been 1.4X during the busier AI quarters in early 2024. Therefore, it’s encouraging to see these key metrics come in stronger this past quarter.
Vertiv’s importance as a supplier is expected to increase with each new generation of GPUs and AI accelerators. The company provides thermal management solutions, such as cold plate cooling and immersion cooling to lower the power requirements to AI systems. They also offer high density solutions such as rear door heat exchangers and coolant distribution units (CDUs). Direct liquid cooling systems, including hybrid versions that combine air and DLC, can result in 40% less power management space and 20% lower cooling costs. When you’re spending nearly $100 billion per year on capex like many Big Tech companies, this matters quite a bit. In addition to thermal management, Vertiv's power solutions include uninterruptable power systems and lithium-ion battery cabinets that supply up to 1500KW and 263KW in a single cabinet.
Vertiv is closely watched as a lead supplier to Nvidia with management stating they have a 3-6 month lead time before systems are delivered. The current quarter was encouraging especially as management raised FY25 revenue forecast by $250M at the midpoint. However, it’s also odd that analysts expect Vertiv’s growth to decelerate as we go into the second half of the year. Despite raising full year guidance with next quarter expected to report 20.6%, the company is expected to exit the year with growth of 13.8%. Given what we’ve described in terms of the increasing importance of Vertiv’s solutions, there’s a disconnect in terms of H2 weakness.
As of this report, EPS growth is expected to outpace revenue growth although adjusted operating margins are quite slim at 16.5% this quarter and are expected to be 18.5% at the midpoint next quarter. Vertiv also provided a few alternative operating margin scenarios based on tariff policy changes, with two scenarios pointing to margin headwinds ahead. However, the bright spot is that Vertiv stated they could maintain
Looking for an Inflection in Revenue
Despite a solid revenue beat in Q1, management’s Q2 guide and updated FY25 guide still point to pockets of weakness in the back half of the year on a year-over-year basis due to tough comps.
However, looking beyond Q1, Vertiv will be accelerating QoQ through the rest of the year, which points to an important inflection. Although Q2’s guidance points to a 4 point deceleration in organic growth from 25% in Q1 to 21% at midpoint, revenue will grow QoQ by 15%. Similarly, FY25 is currently guided at 18% at midpoint, well below growth rates for the first half of the year yet Vertiv is expected to grow QoQ through the rest of the year.
The sequential growth is to be watched closely as further acceleration is needed to solidify the 2025 growth story (as opposed to the 2026 growth story).
Q1 revenue rose 24.2% YoY to $2.036 billion, easily beating the guided range of $1.90 to $1.95 billion, or 17.4% YoY at midpoint.
Organic revenue increased 25.3% in Q1, marking a slight deceleration from 27.1% organic growth in Q4. Growth was driven by colocation and hyperscale markets in the Americas and APAC, with “strong contribution from switchgear, power solutions, liquid cooling and services.”
For Q2, Vertiv guided for revenue between $2.325 billion and $2.375 billion, or 19% to 23% organic growth. At midpoint, this points to 21% organic growth to $2.35 billion in revenue.
Vertiv Raises Guidance by $250M with $150M Organic Growth
The company raised its FY25 outlook by $250 million to a wide range of $9.325 billion to $9.575 billion, or $9.45 billion at midpoint. However, of this $150M is organic growth with $100M being from FX tailwinds: “First, we are increasing full year sales guidance by $250 million, including approximately $150 million organically and approximately $100 million from favorable foreign exchange. The $150 million increase in organic sales is driven by both the first quarter and higher expectations in the second quarter versus what was implied in our prior guidance.”
Management expects full-year revenue growth to be sub-20%. The new outlook points to 16.5% to 19.5% organic growth, or 18% at midpoint, up from its prior view for 16% growth at midpoint. Given that revenue growth is expected to decelerate further in the back half of the year, at less than 17% in Q3 and less than 14% in Q4, this suggests there may be less room for upside in the FY guide.
Backlog Increases on Strong Order Growth
Vertiv’s backlog rebounded in Q1, up 10% QoQ and 25% YoY to a new high at $7.9 billion. However, this was the slowest quarterly growth in the past five quarters.
Orders growth was strong, with TTM orders up 20% in Q1, while Q1’s orders increased 13% YoY and 21% QoQ. Vertiv believes that TTM orders is the best key metric to focus on, although typically growth investors prefer indication sales are improving on more of a forward basis – which is why backlog is the better one for our purposes. Regarding TTM orders, management stated the lower growth was due to strong comps: “Yes, I want to underline that Q1 orders were up 21% sequentially and a healthy 13% year-over-year against very challenging comps. The strength of these numbers reflects not just market growth but our ability to expand our market position.” Even with strong comps, one has to wonder why a bigger ramp that requires thermal and power management is not showing up in an acceleration of the key metrics.
As stated in the introduction, perhaps Q1 is the inflection point and we see a stronger beat/raise as we move along given Vertiv’s book-to-bill ratio returned to a healthy 1.4x, up from 1.0x in Q4 and 1.1x in Q3, indicating demand remains healthy despite fears of AI spending slowing down. Inventories also jumped more than 11% QoQ to over $1.38 billion, accelerating from a (1%) QoQ decline last quarter.
Americas and APAC Drive Growth (incl China):
The Americas and APAC drove Q1 growth, with both regions showing strong growth in the quarter. On the other hand, EMEA growth slowed more than expected, missing an already-lowered forecast due to project timing.
Americas has a significantly higher margin at 25.6% compared to APAC with 12.6% margin in the current quarter.
Americas revenue increased to 28.8% organic to $1.185 billion, accelerating from 24.7% organic growth in Q4.
APAC revenue increased to 36.4% organic to $447.2 million, accelerating sharply from 27.1% organic growth in Q4 on colocation and hyperscale growth in China.
EMEA growth slowed sharply, with revenue growing just mid-single digits versus expectations for high-single digits, on lagging AI infrastructure buildouts. EMEA increased 7.2% organic to $403.5 million, slowing from >30% growth in Q4.
For Q2, Vertiv forecast Americas to grow mid-20%, APAC low-20%, and EMEA low single-digit, pointing to sequential decelerations for both Americas and APAC as it stands.
Margins to be Resilient in Face of Tariffs
Vertiv’s margins are guided to be resilient in the face of tariffs, with management guiding very minimal impact despite the earnings call being held at the height of the effective tariff rate.
Adjusted operating margin came in at 16.5% in Q1, down 5 points sequentially and below management’s guidance for 16.7% to 17.1%. However, adjusted operating profit was $336.7 million, slightly above the upper end of the guided $315 to $335 million range.
Management said the below-guide margin print was primarily due to the impact of Q1 tariffs, though the sizable revenue beat was also a factor.
Management is expecting an impact on a YoY basis to their Q2 adjusted operating margin, stating: “If tariff rates in effect today remain in effect for the entire second quarter, we expect adjusted operating margin to be 18.5%, about 110 basis points lower than last year's second quarter. However, excluding the estimated net tariff impact, adjusted operating margin would show good expansion, which implies that tariffs more than explain the year-over-year reduction and underlying margin expansion drivers, including operational leverage, productivity and commercial execution remains strong, and we believe we continue to be on track for our long-term margin targets.”
The guide for next quarter of adjusted operating margin of 18.5% marks a 2-point expansion QoQ. However, management also lowered fiscal year guidance, stating: “We are reducing our full year guidance for adjusted operating margin to 20.5% at the midpoint, approximately 50 basis points lower than prior guidance, of course, primarily driven by the estimated net impact of tariffs offset by favorable operating leverage on higher expected sales. This all translates into maintaining our adjusted diluted EPS at $3.55 at the midpoint, which is consistent with prior guidance and 25% higher than prior year despite the impact of tariffs.” This translates to adjusted operating profit of $1.935 billion at the midpoint.
Vertiv reported at the height of the tariff impacts when the effective tariff rate was 27%, largely due to China’s tariffs of 145%. As it stands today, the effective tariff rate is 17.8% which would imply a better outcome for Vertiv’s bottom line than stated on the earnings call on April 22nd.
Despite the 50 bp reduction, this guidance suggests margins are expected to strengthen through the back half of the year to the low-20% range given Q1 and Q2 are both sub-20%.
Vertiv also provided more color on adjusted operating margin, with upside and downside scenarios based on how the tariff situation evolves over the next quarter. Vertiv’s upside scenario assumes tariff rates on April 22 remain the same, while the company recognizes tailwinds from incremental sales growth, projecting $2.015 billion in adjusted operating income for a ~21.3% margin.
Vertiv also provided two downside scenarios:
The first scenario assumes supply chain hiccups or other risks to customer spending, projecting adjusted operating income at $1.85 billion, or a margin of ~19.6% for the year.
The second scenario assumes that the reciprocal tariff rates announced on April 2, that were subsequently paused for 90 days on April 9, are reinstated in July. Under this scenario, Vertiv expects a larger hit, projecting adjusted operating margin of $1.80 billion, or ~19.0%, effectively eliminating much of the margin upside guided this quarter.
Commentary on China:
According to Vertiv, they have low exposure to China: “In the U.S., we have strong local capacity and we continue expanding it. We have capacity in Mexico. Most of our Mexico capacity and production is already USMCA qualified, and we are driving towards 100% of qualification goal. Single digits portion of our demand is sourced from China, and we are deploying or have already deployed lower tariff or no tariff alternatives.”
Although sourcing may be limited from China, there’s indication that China is a major customer per the geographic breakdown above where we stated: “APAC revenue increased to 36.4% organic to $447.2 million, accelerating sharply from 27.1% organic growth in Q4 on colocation and hyperscale growth in China.”
Quarterly EPS Growth Lumpy Through FY25
Similar to its margin outlook, Vertiv maintained its FY25 EPS outlook but widened its range to account for tariff uncertainties. EPS growth is expected to be quite lumpy through the rest of the year as Q1 saw some one-time benefits from a better interest rate on the nearly $3B in debt Vertiv has on the balance sheet: “The increase in EPS was primarily driven by higher adjusted operating profit, but also positively influenced by lower interest expense, in part due to the term loan repricing last year.” Q2 is expected to grow 20.9% and Q3 is also expected to outpace revenue growth at 26%.
Q1 adjusted EPS of $0.64 beat by $0.02, representing YoY growth of 48.8%. The strong growth was notable although lower than the 76.8% growth seen in the prior quarter.
For Q2, Vertiv guided for adjusted EPS of $0.77 to $0.85, or $0.81 midpoint. This corresponds to YoY growth of 20.9%.
Growth is expected to rebound slightly in Q3 to 26% YoY with 15.6% growth expected toward year end.
Management was quite clear the impact of tariffs would be primarily felt in Q2 before normalizing by Q4: “Tariff costs will certainly accelerate in the second quarter from the first quarter. And with limited time to mitigate with either supply chain or commercial countermeasures, our adjusted operating margin will be negatively influenced.”
For the full year, Vertiv still expects $3.55 in adjusted EPS, up 24.6% YoY, though it has widened its forecast range, now seeing $3.45 to $3.65 versus its prior view for $3.50 to $3.60.
Cash Flow Margins Dip, Net Leverage Improves Sequentially
Cash flows dipped sequentially with operating cash flow of $303.3 million in Q1, for a 14.9% margin. This is down from $425.2 million in Q4 with OCF margin of 15.4% but more than double the $137.5 million a year ago with OCF margin of 8.4%.
Adjusted free cash flow was $264.5 million for a 13% margin, down from $361.8 million in Q4 but up more than 161% YoY. Management said that they “experienced strong collections at the end of the quarter with a good portion of that accelerated a few weeks from Q2, which does create a potential headwind for next quarter.”
Based on comments for 1H ’25 free cash flow to be roughly consistent YoY, Q2 adjusted FCF could be near $170 million. This would correlate to a 7.2% margin. Inventories are increasing from $1.25B last quarter to $1.38B this quarter, and this implies inventories will increase again next quarter.
Vertiv also maintained its outlook for $1.3 billion in adjusted FCF for the full year, though it widened its range by $25 million on each end to $1.25 billion to $1.35 billion.
Cash and equivalents increased more than $200 million to $1.47 billion, while debt remained steady at $2.93 billion. Net leverage improved sequentially to 0.8x, down from 1x in Q4 and 2.2x at the start of FY24.
Earnings Call Q&A:
Modular AI Infrastructure (AI Factories) – Catalyst for Vertiv
By now, the Blackwell delays have been fully discussed. However, investors should look deeply at what caused those delays and what solutions providers and component suppliers are solving the issues. When there is this much demand, a delay like this provides a critical opportunity for suppliers to step up and take market share if their products help to resolve the issue.
Prefabricated infrastructure where the thermal management and power specialists assemble the infrastructure could become a path to faster, more successful deployments. Per Vertiv’s comments: “Now let me share some exciting news about our projects with iGenius. Here, NVIDIA and Vertiv are delivering a fully prefabricated AI factory. This is a very important sovereign AI supercomputer and we provide everything infrastructure from liquid cooling to heat rejection, grid to chip power in a very rapidly deployable modular infrastructure. All leveraging our NVIDIA codeveloped AI reference designs. What makes this truly special is how it brings together all our core Vertiv strengths. Our ability to deliver complex solutions at scale, our deep technical expertise and our commitment to innovation. We're not just providing infrastructure, we are enabling iGenius to deploy advanced AI models in a highly regulated industry.”
Often times, CEOs use earnings calls as a marketing tactic and it can be difficult to sort through dozens of product releases to identify which ones are important catalysts. I believe the iGenius deployment will (in time) prove to be an important deployment for Vertiv – perhaps the largest catalyst ever for the company — as it transitions Vertiv from being a solutions supplier to building end-to-end modular infrastructure with substantial cross-sell opportunities.
These modular AI factories also serve the massive market of sovereign AI by reducing the dependency on cloud providers such as Amazon, Google or Microsoft.
Timing for the Next AI Splash
Vertiv’s report can provide hints as to when the next AI splash may occur. Analysts certainly did not miss the opportunity to try and identify timing from Vertiv. We’ve covered in the past our takeawayswhere Vertiv hinted toward Blackwell delays. What’s being described is the Q2 QoQ inflection should translate in about 3-6 months for Nvidia’s deliveries. Notably, there are many proxies to track and thus isn’t not a perfect signal, yet we are quite clear Q1 is not going to be a blowout quarter for Nvidia and it’s likely not going to be Q2 either if you assume 3-6 months out. We’ve stated this many timesmany times in the past – for Nvidia investors to look for H2 as the bigger splash (and next leg up) in AI.
Here is the current update from Vertiv (as far as they can disclose):
Chris Snyder:
Maybe just a high-level one here. What do you guys think is the best way for all of us to track liquid cooling demand in the market? Is it Blackwell shipments? And if that is what we should be looking at? My understanding is you guys do would lead the chip shipments by some period of time. But just any color on that relationship?
Giordano Albertazzi:
Well, certainly Blackwell is a good — Blackwell shipments is a good proxy. But as you were saying, we proceed that deployment or anyway, the demand for liquid cooling proceeds the deployment, especially when it's liquid cooling that is not in rack with the cool and distribution units that are not in back, in which case pretty much the CDU demand and the Blackwell demand coincide.
But it's not just Blackwell shipments. There are other chips, some prior chip ASIC silicon that is more and more requiring liquid cooling or able to work with liquid cooling. So it's a little bit multifaceted. But certainly, Blackwell is a good place. Blackwell shipments are a good place to start and think in terms of probably 6 to 3 months before that happens is when we see our demand turn into deliveries. Yes, I think we are pretty happy about the trajectory of this technology and this product line. I'm actually very happy the way it's unfolding right now.”
Reiterating 2029 Goals
Five year goals are irrelevant to a growth investor as quite a bit can change in that time period. However, management brought up their 2024 goals a few times to assure analysts on the call that their working toward margin expansion. Specifically, the following was stated in the November 2024 Investor’s Day:
Top line growth of 14.4% from $7.8B in 2024 to $14.4B in 2029
Adjusted operating margin of 25% up from 19% in 2024 — you can see where the company took a step back this last quarter with adjusted operating margin of 16.5%
Conclusion:
Vertiv’s report was not a blowout, yet it hints toward the next AI splash occurring in the coming quarters. While many are focused on the effective tariff rate, what we know is that if you count China as a major customer or major sourcing partner, then sales will be lower and margins will be lower compared to last year. Vertiv echoed this in their commentary. Plus, analyst consensus does not point to Vertiv growing meaningfully in the second half (right now).
Our take is a bit different than analyst consensus. According to what we parsed from Q1, Vertiv saw outsized growth in APAC and this growth from APAC is likely to wane given global tensions. Perhaps Vertiv even saw a pull forward ahead of tariffs in Q1 given APAC sharply accelerated and China was named as the region contributing to APAC’s growth. However, my take is that by the time we exit the year, Vertiv’s AI story will have driven a surprise or two as there is a dislocation between what the management team is describing and analyst consensus (in our favor).
With that said, it’s unlikely we buy Nvidia suppliers ahead of Nvidia’s report given the weakness in Super Micro’s report, the lackluster inflection for Vertiv and more muted commentary we’ve been tracking thus far for Q1 from other suppliers. We think August/November will be the bigger AI splash in terms of Nvidia’s earnings call and will align any Vertiv entries accordingly.
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AI data centers are expected to consume up to 9% of all electricity generated in the United States by 2030.
AI GPUs have already tripled their power consumption, with Nvidia Blackwell raising the bar as the GB200 is expected to use up to 2,700 watts of power, up from 250 watts for the earlier A100.
Power consumption is the chokepoint for AI data centers that are desperate to lock in power purchase agreements (PPAs) to procure long-term power.
The artificial intelligence (AI) revolution is driving an intensely competitive race across various facets, from GPUs and ASICs to CPUs, storage, LLM models, and beyond. However, one critical component stands out as the key enabler for AI's future: power.
Simply put, AI cannot exist without the electricity that powers its applications, making energy the chokepoint for AI data centers. Electricity must be generated to keep these data centers running at full capacity, and there are five primary types of fuel sources: coal, natural gas, solar, nuclear and fuel cells.
AI and Data Centers Are Driving Up Power Consumption:
Power consumption is rising with each generation of GPUs. Nvidia’s A100 max power consumption was 250W. Its H100 GPU consumes 350 to 350W and up to 700W with SXM. IO Fund wrote, “Nvidia’s upcoming Blackwell generation boosts power consumption even further, with the B200 consuming up to 1,200W, and the GB200 (which combines two B200 GPUs and one Grace CPU) expected to consume 2,700W. This represents up to a 300% increase in power consumption across one generation of GPUs with AI systems increasing power consumption at a higher rate.”
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AI data centers need to meet this power demand, which is expected to surge with each generation of GPUs, which are now expected to roll out annually (rather than bi-annually). A single rack is used to consume 10 to 15 kilowatts (KW) of power, but current AI racks are now averaging 80 KW. The next generation is expected to draw 120 KW to 150 KW towards 200 KW within the next few years. This will drive data center consumption by 160% by 2030, where data centers could draw 9% of all the electricity produced in the United States.
Using Thermal Efficiency to Rank Fuel Sources
AI data centers are actively trying to secure long-term power purchase agreements (PPA) and are even exploring nuclear energy options, as evidenced by the 20-year PPA Microsoft signed with Constellation Energy. Hyperscalers are also co-locating data centers near power sources to ensure reliable electricity.
To ensure reliable power, hyperscalers are increasingly seeking long-term power purchase agreements (PPA) and exploring various energy options, including nuclear power. This was underscored by the 20-year PPA that Microsoft signed with Constellation Energy marking the largest-ever PPA in its history. Constellation Energy will launch the Crane Clean Energy Center, restoring the Three Mile Island Unit 1 nuclear reactor, which will add 835 MW of carbon-free energy to the electrical grid.
While electricity is generated from various energy fuels, not all fuels produce the same amount of energy. Thermal efficiency measures how effectively a fuel is converted into electricity. For example, a thermal efficiency of 25% means that 75% of the fuel is lost as heat. Higher thermal efficiency means more energy is converted into electricity, while lower efficiency results in greater energy loss. Let’s see how the energy fuel sources size up.
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Sizing Up the Five Types of Energy Fuel
These are the five energy fuel sources and their general thermal efficiency. These are general thermal efficiencies, which can vary based on location, technology and method:
Solar PV: While solar photovoltaic (PV) panels produce renewable clean energy, they are also the least efficient, averaging 15% to 20%, or 17.5% midpoint. They generate electricity directly from the sunlight. Of course, sunlight is not available 24/7, and efficiencies can drop during overcast and precipitation.
Coal: The world has been phasing out burning coal due to the high levels of carbon emissions. Coal-fired plants burn coal in a boiler, producing steam which flows into a turbine, spinning a generator to produce electricity. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) suggests 16% of the electricity in the United States is powered by coal. Coal has a thermal efficiency of 33%.
Nuclear: The thermal efficiency of nuclear power plants ranges between 33% to 37%, with a midpoint of 35%. Interestingly, nuclear is not much more efficient than coal as it also uses steam from nuclear fission to spin turbines that generate electricity. However, nuclear plants don’t produce any carbon emissions, making them the cleanest energy option.
Natural Gas: Gas plants produce electricity through two methods. The simple cycle gas turbine works through combustion by burning the natural gas in a combustion chamber to spin a turbine connected to a generator that generates electricity. This alone has a thermal efficiency between 35% to 42%, with a midpoint of 39%. Many gas plants use combined cycle gas turbines (CCGT), which use the exhaust heat up to 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit to boil water in a steam turbine, which adds an extra 20% to 25%, midpoint of 23% efficiency for a total of 62% thermal efficiency. There are carbon emissions generated from burning the gas.
Solid Oxide Fuel Cells (SOFCs): SOFCs can use natural gas, biogas, propane or methane to generate electricity. Natural gas is the preferred method, which produces an electrochemical reaction to produce electricity facilitated by a solid ceramic electrolyte. The thermal efficiency is up to 65%. However, using a combined heat and power (CHP) system will use the exhaust heat of up to 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit to be channeled to a steam turbine, adding an extra 20% to 25% for a total efficiency midpoint of around 87%.
This is the Clear Winner in Thermal Efficiency
As depicted in the chart, SOFC has the highest thermal efficiency when used with heat capture to add an extra 20% to 25%. SOFCs emit carbon when using natural gas as a fuel source, but not as much as gas turbines since there is no combustion, just an electrochemical reaction. For zero carbon, hydrogen can be used as a fuel source. However, it takes electricity to make the hydrogen that will produce electricity, which defeats the purpose for now. Also, while hydroelectric power can have efficiencies as high as 90%, the problem is the location (need to be near large masses of water) and cost (dams are expensive). They don't generate enough electricity (from KWs to hundreds of MWs) to be cost-effective.
As the cost of hydrogen falls and the infrastructure supports it, then it may become a more readily used energy fuel. Natural gas already has the infrastructure and continues to penetrate as a preferred energy fuel. SOFCs are a cleaner way to generate electricity with higher thermal efficiency to boot using natural gas. Investing in the right energy infrastructure is essential to powering the next wave of AI innovation.
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Credo reported a large beat and raise in Q3 ending in January, with revenue coming in more than 12% above estimates at $135 million for growth of 154.4% YoY and 87.4% QoQ. This is the most growth I can recall from any AI-related earnings report this quarter with an earnings season that wraps up this evening. Regardless of market volatility, Credo is communicating they are special. We’ve covered the product in the past here. Next quarter points to an acceleration in growth to 163.2% — which is especially impressive when you consider the company is seeing strong growth on the bottom line.
Gross margin exceeded management’s guidance at 63.6% while Credo’s strong operating leverage was visible as operating margin came in nearly 8 points ahead of guidance and improved more than 30 points sequentially.
Inventories and accounts receivable surged sequentially, supporting management’s comments that active electric cables (AECs) experienced the inflection point in growth management had expected in the third quarter. Interestingly, Credo’s margin profile is improving significantly despite it being in a strong ramp phase for its products, with GAAP operating and net margins both in the double-digit positives in Q3, a sharp contrast to double-digit negatives just one quarter prior.
Free cash flow was marginally negative this quarter at ($0.4) million due to the purchase of production equipment, plus the large inventory at $53.2 million. The company has $379 million in cash, and thus this isn’t too big of an issue.
Also, note that Credo had very high customer concentration this quarter with 86% of revenue from one customer (hinted to be Amazon) yet is ramping with other hyperscalers (likely Microsoft, xAI, Oracle). This means the company is agnostic, which is truly the best spot to be given they have both large custom silicon and merchant GPU customers.
Revenue
Credo reported revenue of $135.0 million in Q3, beating analyst estimates of $120.4 million. Revenue grew 154.4% YoY and 87.4% QoQ, driven by the inflection in active electric cables (AECs).
Here is what management stated about this outsized growth: “Regarding our AEC product line, as expected, our revenue surged in the third quarter, driven by our largest hyperscale customer. Compared to alternatives, the benefits of AECs have become clearer. More than ever, data centers are highly focused on back-end network reliability […] Our ZeroFlap AECs deliver more than 100 times better reliability than laser-based optical solutions. And as a result, we're seeing AECs replacing optics for rack-to-rack solutions for lengths up to seven meters. We continue to make significant progress with additional hyperscalers for our Ethernet AEC solutions. We've achieved volume production with three hyperscalers, and we're in qualification with two additional hyperscalers, expecting production in fiscal '26.”
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For Q4, Credo guided for revenue of $155 million to $165 million, or 163.2% YoY growth at midpoint, almost an 8 point sequential acceleration. This blew past estimates for $136.3 million for growth of 124.2% YoY. Analyst estimates for fiscal Q1 and Q2 2026 are likely to move higher following this result given that it came in nearly $25 million higher than estimates at midpoint.
For the full year, Credo is on track to generate $426.7 million, based on the midpoint of Q4, well ahead of estimates for $388.8 million and representing growth of 121.1% YoY.
To put how quickly Credo is ramping in perspective, Q3’s revenue was more than Q1 and Q2 combined. Additionally, at the midpoint of Q4’s guidance, Credo would be generating $295 million in Q3 and Q4 combined, or $50 million more than it generated in the four quarters prior.
Key Segments
Product Revenue rises 224% YoY
Credo’s product revenue accelerated significantly in Q3, rising nearly 224% YoY and more than 100% QoQ to $129.3 million. This is a sharp inflection from the 70% to 90% YoY growth seen in the prior three quarters.
For the nine months ending in January, product revenue was $247.7 million, up nearly 138% YoY. Based on Q4’s guidance and product revenue contribution, Credo is on track to potentially reach $400 million in product revenue for the full year.
As pointed out above, AECs and retimers are driving the revenue, yet there are other products that will contribute to the company’s ongoing growth. The founders come from Marvell, and there is overlap here with SerDes technology solutions, including PCIe5 (now) PCIe6 (next year) products incl retimers, which help to increase bandwidths from 50G per lane to 100G per lane to soon offer 200G per lane, including on active optic cables and transceivers. The goal is to corner both long-scale reach and very short-scale reach as architectures move toward scale up and scale out (this is discussed more below). Credo was also first to release a 800G PAM4 DSP for half-retimed modules with the idea these modules can reduce power by 40% compared to full-DSP modules.
Product Engineering Services: Product engineering services revenue declined nearly (78%) YoY and (42%) QoQ to $2.7 million.
IP Licensing: IP licensing revenue rose nearly 137% YoY and was flat QoQ at $3 million.
Margins Support a Blowout Report
Credo’s margin improvements are arguably more impressive than the large beat and raise on the top-line in Q3, as Credo reported double-digit positive GAAP margins down the line after reporting negative margins last quarter. When asked what was driving the margins, management stated it was due to scale: “Principally driven by scale. It's really as simple as that.”
Q3 GAAP gross margin was 63.6%, one full point above the high-end of guidance for 60.6% to 62.6%.
For Q4, management guided gross margin to be between 62.7% and 64.7%, or a marginal improvement sequentially at midpoint.
Q3 GAAP operating margin was 19.4%, a more than 30 point sequential improvement from (11.7%) in Q2 and well ahead of management’s guidance for an 11.9% margin. Adjusted operating margin was 31.4%, up nearly 20 points sequentially.
For Q4, management’s expense guidance implied GAAP operating margin would dip sequentially to 17.5%. Adjusted operating margin is implied to be 32.1%, a slight sequential improvement.
Q3 GAAP net margin was 21.7%, a more than 27 point sequential improvement from (5.9%) in Q2. Adjusted net margin was 33.6%, up more than 16 points sequentially.
This is a phenomenal improvement in operating and net margins in just one quarter, displaying Credo’s strong operating leverage as it enters its rapid ramp phase. Credo was able to deliver just north of $64 million QoQ growth in product revenue in Q3 while spending less than $6 million more in total operating expenses in the quarter. The strong performance in Q3 was also able to push GAAP operating margin into positive territory for the nine-month period, with GAAP operating income of $3.3 million for a margin of 1.3%.
EPS to See Triple Digit Growth
Credo reported GAAP EPS of $0.18 in Q3, ahead of estimates for $0.11. This was a notable improvement from a GAAP loss of ($0.03) per share last quarter, as net income rose substantially due to Credo’s operating leverage; Q3’s net income was $29.4 million versus a ($4.2 million) loss in Q2.
Adjusted EPS rose 525% YoY to $0.25, beating estimates for $0.18. Analysts are forecasting triple-digit growth in adjusted EPS to continue for the next three quarters.
Balance Sheet and Cash Flows
Credo’s inventories and accounts receivable both surged sequentially, while cash flows were negative as Credo is working to ramp production significantly.
Operating cash flow was $4.2 million, due to “working capital increases driven by the significant sequential product ramp.” Capex was $4.6 million, resulting in free cash flow of ($0.4) million due to purchasing equipment.
Inventories were $53.2 million in Q3, up more than 46% QoQ. Accounts receivable were $157.1 million, up more than 92% QoQ.
Cash and marketable securities totaled $379.2 million, while debt remained at zero.
Earnings Call:
High Customer Concentration (Likely Amazon)
Per our last write-up, Credo’s major customers are Microsoft and Amazon, with the third and fourth perhaps being Oracle or xAI as these two lesser-known names were mentioned in the previous earnings call. This quarter, customer concentration was quite high with one customer at 86%, and this drilled into during the Q&A. Management stated they will have 3-4 customers at 10% or greater revenue and the lead customer will be at 2/3 revenue as soon.
An analyst pointed out that due to the strength of this one customer, the other combined customers would be dropping from $48M in October to $19M in January.
Per the CFO's opening remarks: “As we shared last quarter, we had seven customers that contributed more than 5% of revenue. And going forward, we expect that three to four customers will be greater than 10% of revenue in the coming quarters and fiscal year, as additional hyperscalers ramp to more significant volumes, as Bill described.”
It seems management is implying the customer that surged was Amazon, and not Microsoft. This makes sense given what we know about the Trainium2 ramp. Notably, to be agnostic to both custom silicon and merchant GPUs is the cherry on the cake for a supplier.
Dan Fleming, CFO:
Yes. We've talked in the past about – actually Amazon is a great example. So our largest hyperscaler, if you look at their Q1 revenue, was $30 million. Then it went down a bit in Q2. Now it obviously surged in our Q3. Our internal expectation is probably be in the same ZIP code as to where they were in absolute dollar terms this – in Q3 or where they were in Q3. So if you look at that being what it is and knowing that we guided 19% sequentially up quarter-over-quarter into Q4 at the midpoint. That would imply that maybe they’re two-thirds of our revenue in Q4 would be what that math would apply.
Merchant GPUs (Likely) To be in Volume Production
By now, I hope my readers are well aware that the soft price action in Nvidia has nothing to do with China or DeepSeek. These are shallow narratives the media must quickly conjure up to fill a headline. We offered many before market open earnings reports on “what it could mean” that Nvidia suppliers were offering a muted Q1 starting on Feb 5th, followed by a more long-form analysis on the free side on Feb 25th.
Similar to myself, analysts would love nothing more than to get a green light from a supplier who is downwind from Nvidia. Amazon is a custom silicon project, and thus Credo’s report last night does not provide any evidence that Nvidia’s larger Blackwell systems (expected to drive more than 50% of revenue this year) are ramping in volume. If anything, it suggests the opposite if Amazon is at very high customer concentration while Microsoft, Oracle and/or xAI (the other three customers, presumably) are at a combined 14%.
On one hand, Credo stated the other three hyperscalers are in volume production – which is exactly what we want to hear as it not only verifies the larger Blackwell systems are moving along (since Credo is mainly a back-end networking growth opportunity) but also that Credo is qualified (as of now) to be in this stack in addition to the custom silicon from Amazon.
“Our ZeroFlap AECs deliver more than 100 times better reliability than laser-based optical solutions. And as a result, we're seeing AECs replacing optics for rack-to-rack solutions for lengths up to seven meters. We continue to make significant progress with additional hyperscalers for our Ethernet AEC solutions. We've achieved volume production with three hyperscalers, and we're in qualification with two additional hyperscalers, expecting production in fiscal '26.”
I put the word “likely” in parathesis because merchant GPUs were not specifically mentioned, yet the readthrough is that it’s Nvidia’s GPUs that Credo is providing the AECs to given these specific hyperscaler customers buildouts.
Scale Up, Scale Out Architectures (Total Addressable Market):
Scale up architectures refers to the increasing size of GPUs or AI accelerators per system. Prior to Blackwell, the maximum was eight, whereas the new architecture will be 36 or 72 GPU systems. Each new generation will likely attempt to increase size in which these systems scale up.
As we consider hypergrowth networking stocks like Credo, consider that its revenue today is mainly scale out (which refers to adding more systems, such as the 100,000 GPUs systems being built today). The total addressable market for Credo will expand considerably as we go into years (perhaps up to a decade) of the scale up trend driving forth major advancements in training first and foremost (with inference market too nascent to determine where it will end up in terms of its best and highest use across architectures.
The rack-level architectures that are scale up to 36 GPUs or 72GPUs this year will offer Credo a new opportunity to drive revenue. Per management: “Our Gen6 64 gig PAM4 AECs will deliver the same compelling benefits for AI scale-up networks as deployments move to rack scale architectures. Credo will demonstrate our PCIe AECs at Nvidia's GTC Show later this month.” It was also stated: “Existing customer wins and future opportunities here include 100 gig and 200 gig per lane applications for both traditional switching and increasingly for AI servers requiring retimers for scale-out networks. This year, Credo has entered the market for PCIe retimers used in scale-up networks.”
This was also stated: “We've talked about the volumes being larger than the scale-out network opportunities. So we really see this as a big new TAM. As the market moves from Gen-5 to Gen-6, we're talking about moving from 32 gig NRZ, which is really very old technology, and it is really not competitive if you compare it to the market leader from a bandwidth standpoint per lane.”
Conclusion:
Credo had an excellent earnings report and we are excited to build out this position further over the next few months. Suppliers who participate in both custom silicon and merchant GPUs are in an enviable position as it can remove lumpiness. Regarding lumpiness, Nvidia is not out of the weeds yet as the following analyst discussion foreshadows the delay we reported on is alive and well this quarter: “And the other combined customers would be dropping from $48M in October to $19M in January.” However, Credo’s comments the other hyperscalers are in volume production matches Nvidia’s commentary — and so hopefully we see a clearing of the selling pressure in the next 2-3 months. (And you know the IOF loves to buy low for the next leg up, so we are not stressing it – rather simply making sure our readers are well informed and not relying on the Street’s China tariffs and DeepSeek narratives, which are shallow narratives at best).
Credo's gross margin is one of the strongest I can recollect in the AI hardware space with an operating margin that exceeds many AI suppliers’ gross margin. The fact we are seeing revenue primarily from scale-out, while there is an equal opportunity (if not larger opportunity) for back-end networking with scale up for AI systems – and, the fact Credo plays in both arenas with custom silicon and GPUs — is the cherry on the cake.
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